[HN Gopher] The father of all secrets: John le Carre's daddy issues
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       The father of all secrets: John le Carre's daddy issues
        
       Author : samclemens
       Score  : 43 points
       Date   : 2022-12-10 17:15 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | rainworld wrote:
       | Often unjustly forgotten among le Carre adaptations:
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Perfect_Spy_(TV_series)
        
         | crabmusket wrote:
         | I'm currently watching this. The score is fantastic.
        
         | User23 wrote:
         | I really enjoyed the recent adaptation of the Night Manager
         | with Tom Hiddleston.
        
           | kramerger wrote:
           | As beautiful and powerful as that story was, it is still only
           | my second favourite le Carre adaptation :)
           | 
           | I liked the new thinker tailor more. It had a old school feel
           | to it where they don't spoon-fed you the story and you have
           | to really pay attention to not miss important clues.
           | 
           | They don't make many movies like that any more.
        
             | Slow_Hand wrote:
             | 100%. I love this adaptation so much for this reason. The
             | tone is so good.
             | 
             | Having read the book, the big thing I feel they didn't
             | really convey as strongly was the sophistication of Karla's
             | "clever knot". I think that was glossed over a bit.
             | 
             | Granted it's a pretty subtle thing to depict, even in a
             | film as subtle as this.
        
             | tptacek wrote:
             | The new Tinker Tailor is legit, but tragically miscast.
             | They had Toby Jones! They had Ciaren Hinds! Either would
             | have been a perfect Smiley. Oldman (at that time) would
             | have been a perfectly good Alleline!
             | 
             | If you haven't watched the BBC Tinker Tailor, you're
             | missing out on the canonical Smiley, though.
             | 
             | Burton's Leamas in Spy Who Came In From The Cold is
             | probably the GOAT though.
        
               | kramerger wrote:
               | I actually liked the casting, it was an unusual and
               | unexpected arrangement but everyone really shined.
               | 
               | BBC version was okay, but felt really low budget. The
               | sound for example was pretty bad for a BBC production.
        
               | tptacek wrote:
               | Farty Slow Horses Oldman could have pulled off a good
               | Smiley, too. But 2011 Oldman? The same year he did
               | Deathly Hallows? Not a chance. Smiley _not_ being like
               | 2011-era Gary Oldman is one of his most important
               | character traits. Also: Toby Jones is fantastic and it
               | would have been great to see more of him.
               | 
               | It was a good movie and true in all other respects to the
               | book.
        
           | svat wrote:
           | If you haven't seen it, here's Hugh Laurie telling a story of
           | attending John le Carre's 70th birthday party:
           | https://youtu.be/0es0XnqpXyM?t=1442
        
         | sfuller808 wrote:
        
         | sandinmyjoints wrote:
         | Thanks, I was just looking for more le Carre adaptations today!
         | Finished Smiley's People yesterday.
        
           | tptacek wrote:
           | This is a random site but I concur with it:
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           | http://www.tasteofcinema.com/2021/all-9-john-le-carre-
           | movies...
        
       | tptacek wrote:
       | _In an interview on the BBC in 1965, Malcolm Muggeridge--himself
       | a former communist and British spy--told le Carre, in a
       | provocative tone, of a friend who survived a World War II prison
       | camp: "He told me the prison slang for a man who confessed was 'a
       | novelist.'"_
       | 
       | Oof!
        
         | cafard wrote:
         | Was Muggeridge in fact a former communist? He was an enthusiast
         | of the Russian Revolution early on, and his parents and in-laws
         | were socialists, but he was one of not many journalists who
         | told the truth about the famine in the USSR in the 1930s. He
         | worked for British intelligence during WW II, but hardly in
         | deep cover--his Italian opposite number in his overseas posting
         | (in Portuguese East Africa?) knew perfectly well who he was,
         | and was apparently tempted to run him over.
        
           | Veen wrote:
           | He was pro-communist until he went to live in the USSR in the
           | early 30s and saw what it was like. Thereafter, he was anti-
           | communist.
        
       | jakzurr wrote:
       | And definitely worth a skim,
       | 
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_le_Carr%C3%A9
        
       | Gatsky wrote:
       | Can highly recommend _A Perfect Spy_ , one of the best books I've
       | read, a bleak masterpiece.
        
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