[HN Gopher] The extraordinary shelf life of the deep sea sandwiches ___________________________________________________________________ The extraordinary shelf life of the deep sea sandwiches Author : zdw Score : 25 points Date : 2022-12-12 03:11 UTC (19 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.wired.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.wired.com) | montecarl wrote: | Avoid paywall: https://archive.vn/9xs6M | dr_dshiv wrote: | Sounds like a lot more science is needed. I wish ocean science | was funded at a greater level -- and I wish it were easier to do | research (incredibly expensive and regulatory). | andrewmutz wrote: | If high pressure slows down the spoilage, can I use a pressure | chamber to preserve food, rather than a refrigerator? | pazimzadeh wrote: | What happens if you combine both? | Nzen wrote: | PV = nRT [0]. The (P)ressure is directly correlated with the | (T)emperature. You would need to use a small (V)olume to | balance the equation. | | [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law | s1artibartfast wrote: | poor application of the gas law. There is no reason to | treat the situation as adiabatic. Theoretical assumptions | are important! | droopyEyelids wrote: | Yes absolutely. It's really cool. | | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascalization | FredPret wrote: | Good luck peeking in the fridge every 5 mins like some do! | | Maybe a pressure hatch is the answer to snacking | traverseda wrote: | It's called high pressure processing or pascalization. | unwind wrote: | Very interesting, and daring of them to taste food having spent | 10 months in the ocean! That must have been an epic "for | science!" moment, for sure. | | Semi-meta: as a non-native speaker, does the expression "a | handful of apples" feel natural? Is that, like, 4-5 apples, or | whatever you feel a handful corresponds to? | | I mean, most people will struggle actually holding more than one | or two apples in a single hand, but perhaps that part is so | idiomatic that the literal meaning of the words don't matter? | Would you say "a handful of aircraft carriers"? | jfengel wrote: | Yes, that's fine. English speakers regularly use "handful" to | mean "about five". | | As a random example I googled "handful of buildings" and got | >700,000 hits, e.g. "Charnley-Persky House is one of a handful | of buildings that display the combined talents of Louis | Sullivan and Frank Lloyd Wright". | | You can even have "a handful" of non-physical things: "a | handful of ideas" gets almost 5 million hits on Google, e.g. | "We started with a handful of ideas that sprung out of our | collective experiences on social media." | lotsofpulp wrote: | As an American English speaker, I have never come across | context where a handful means about five. Handful has meant a | relatively small amount, with the actual quantity always | depending on the context of the item being discussed. | jmkb wrote: | To me (native English a la USA) apples are in a sort of | uncanny valley between things that could in fact be measured | by the physical handful, like peanuts, and things that | couldn't -- buildings being way off the charts, obviously. | thaumasiotes wrote: | Context will make the difference. If you say "grab a | handful of apples", no one will believe you meant to say | it, because that doesn't make any sense. | | " _There are_ a handful of apples " is a different usage, | which people will accept. | [deleted] | unwind wrote: | Cool, thanks! | zdw wrote: | Never really thought about this, but I wonder whether | "handful" also is roughly equivalent to "number you can count | on one hand" (ie, around 4 or 5 if counting with fingers). | eschneider wrote: | More like putting out a platter of "Free Food!" for grad | students. | glxxyz wrote: | A handful means either the amount you can hold in your hand | "add a handful of salt", or a small number so "Country X only | has a handful of aircraft carriers" is fine. | | I think with apples it would be the second meaning but it's a | grey area. With something smaller like "a handful of cherries" | I'd go with the amount that can be held. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2022-12-12 23:00 UTC)