[HN Gopher] Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking
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       Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking
        
       Author : matthewfelgate
       Score  : 59 points
       Date   : 2022-12-14 21:10 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | rahidz wrote:
       | Wish there was something like this (or like Sponsorblock) for
       | podcasts. Would make them actually listenable to.
        
       | neilv wrote:
       | A remaining problem is that you're still listening to whatever
       | they play on the radio.
        
         | Analemma_ wrote:
         | They're few and far between, but a good radio station make this
         | a non-issue. KEXP in Seattle is phenomenal; I listed to them
         | just as much as Spotify or my local collection.
        
         | jacquesm wrote:
         | Can't you just use a playlist on some service or your own local
         | MP3 collection or something like that then?
        
         | jakear wrote:
         | Local college radio and other small stations tend to be great.
         | Sure the music won't be custom tailored by either "what past-
         | you liked" or neural networks expressly designed to increase
         | Sweden's internal revenue, but that doesn't mean you can't
         | enjoy the experience of listening all the same. As an extra
         | plus you're likely to get relevant information on local news
         | and events too.
         | 
         | Long live public broadcasting!
        
       | smm11 wrote:
       | I avoid this by not listening to OTA radio. Nothing to install,
       | nothing to configure.
        
         | ArmandTanzarian wrote:
         | A good strategy, but this product is for someone seeking a
         | different experience than you.
        
           | ilyt wrote:
           | It relies on radio changing metadata when ad plays or DJ
           | talks, do that even happen often ?
        
             | ArmandTanzarian wrote:
             | Not sure about rest of world, but in the US adverts often
             | play at much louder volumes than the content being enjoyed.
        
       | aatd86 wrote:
       | Another way would be to simply throw a limiter somewhere in the
       | chain.
        
       | boredemployee wrote:
       | I wish that script to be used in parties and festivals.
        
       | jtvjan wrote:
       | On our radio, the "Now Playing" is always frustratingly far
       | behind. It's amazing that yours is real-time enough that you can
       | adjust the volume based on it.
        
       | floatrock wrote:
       | I want something like this for youtube or other streaming
       | services
        
         | unixhero wrote:
         | It exists
         | 
         | Revanced on Android
         | 
         | Stube on AndroidTV
        
           | broodbucket wrote:
           | So there _is_ an equivalent for Android TV! Stube =
           | SmartTubeNext?
        
         | yummypaint wrote:
         | Firefox with ublock origin blocks youtube ads seamlessly. I've
         | barely seen an ad in years
        
           | Benlights wrote:
           | It blocks in video creator ads not Youtube ads
        
             | ravenstine wrote:
             | Maybe you have it the other way around? I've been using
             | uBlock Origin on YouTube for years and never see a single
             | dynamic ad.
        
               | rtepopbe wrote:
               | I think they were talking about SponsorBlock, which was
               | mentioned on another same-level comment. Probably just
               | didn't realize this was a separate sub-chain (or whatever
               | you call it) without that context.
        
         | scrapcode wrote:
         | Along with uBlock, there's nice extension called SponsorBlock
         | that uses crowdsourcing to block in-content ad placements.
         | edit: Did not notice this was already mentioned. Sorry!
        
           | [deleted]
        
           | manishsharan wrote:
           | I have always wrestled with the ethics of adblocking YouTube.
           | If am subscribed to a channel, that means the content in that
           | channel has value for me. And it is only fair that I provide
           | some value to the content creators in return. Otherwise it is
           | theft.
           | 
           | Anyways this is my reasoning. Hence as much as I find ads to
           | be annoying, I put up with them. I am considering cancelling
           | my Spotify subscription and using the saving to subscribe to
           | YouTube. I haven't done it yet.
        
             | dpcx wrote:
             | Matthias Wandel said it pretty plainly in
             | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEMb4yc3t3M
             | 
             | > And ads on YouTube seem to be getting a bit too much
             | lately. Just use an ad blocker, don't feel guilty about it.
             | Enough is enough!
             | 
             | (this taken from the description of the video)
        
             | justin_oaks wrote:
             | It makes sense to cancel Spotify in favor of YouTube
             | Premium since YouTube Premium includes both YouTube Music
             | (music streaming service, like Spotify) and ad-free YouTube
             | videos. It looks like YouTube Premium is a little more
             | expensive than Spotify ($12 vs $10).
        
             | rtepopbe wrote:
             | Adblocking seems very distinct from theft to me, but
             | thankfully even that is irrelevant with SponsorBlock. Those
             | sponsorships don't pay via impression and only the channel
             | themselves could really try to track impressions anyway.
             | 
             | You're free to use SponsorBlock and save so much time,
             | brain space, and frustration, without worrying about
             | altering the creator's pay at all. I don't see why you
             | wouldn't do it.
             | 
             | At this point I've got actual emotional/stress responses to
             | segues in videos. It's ridiculous. At least SponsorBlock
             | saves me a good number of ads and gives me a way to do
             | _something_ when an ad spot isn 't skipped.
        
             | nickthegreek wrote:
             | I subscribe to YouTube premium and one of the great
             | features is that creators get significantly more money from
             | my views than from an adsupported user. So every monetized
             | video that I view helps them out a bit more. That along
             | with ad free viewing and YouTube music make it the best
             | value of anything I subscribe too and would be my last
             | service to cancel.
        
             | wahnfrieden wrote:
             | It is not theft
        
             | polishdude20 wrote:
             | At what point is it considered theft though? If I refuse to
             | look at an ad when it plays is it theft? If I get
             | distracted and not watch it for half the time it runs, is
             | it half theft? If I watch the whole thing and don't
             | actually click through, is that theft?
             | 
             | There's no contract that I've signed that demands my full
             | attention is on the ad. So, half my attention is ok? A
             | quarter? How about none?
             | 
             | Is it enough that I know so and so company is behind the
             | specific ad without me knowing what the ad is about but
             | just realizing it's to sell me their product? Is that
             | enough?
             | 
             | What IS the fair transaction in the case?
        
               | dageshi wrote:
               | At whatever point the content creator fails to get paid
               | for the ad being "viewed" I would assume.
        
             | dtech wrote:
             | You can subscribe to Youtube Premium to remove ads, but not
             | in-video sponsorships of course. A lot of prominent
             | creators have banded together in the Nebula subscription
             | service [1], where they put their video without ads and
             | sponsorships.
             | 
             | [1] https://nebula.tv/
        
               | nickthegreek wrote:
               | And you can get a great deal on nebula+curiosity stream
               | too. I think I pay like under $20 for the year for both
               | solely to watch Patrick H Willems and Thomas Flight
               | videos and support a YouTube alternative.
        
         | melony wrote:
         | Sponsorblock
         | 
         | https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock
        
       | matthewfelgate wrote:
       | A script for automatically lowering the volume during radio
       | advertisements and DJ announcements and turns the volume back up
       | when songs are playing. It controls a Sonos speaker using the
       | Soco-cli Python library when Tunein is being used.
        
         | eastbound wrote:
         | It's funny because broadcasters have notmalized ads at +6 dB
         | compared to the rest of the radio.
         | 
         | It's actually measured in LUFS, and it's normalized worldwide
         | for radio, podcasts, TV, movies, and commercials, so that
         | commercials are louder.
         | 
         | LUFS measures the _loudness_ , which is not exactly the same as
         | volume - it makes quiet moments louder so that everything can
         | be heard while the car engine runs, but the drawback is limited
         | dynamic range, which is not important on podcasts but a little
         | more important in music.
         | 
         | It's double-funny that we can normalize LUFS and we're still
         | stuck with movie dialogs inaudible and the sound effects earth-
         | shattering. I wish VLC had a better loudness processor, I don't
         | succeed to configure it to keep the whole movie at the same
         | volume, whether they're speaking or using automatic guns.
        
           | haimez wrote:
           | > I wish VLC had a better loudness processor, I don't succeed
           | to configure it to keep the whole movie at the same volume,
           | whether they're speaking or using automatic guns.
           | 
           | Probably won't help you if you're using VLC, but most of the
           | streaming services now have multiple audio tracks in the same
           | menu that would switch to another language called "<Language>
           | - Reduce loud noises" which is pretty much that. I just find
           | it inconvenient as an apartment dweller that the default is
           | to blast the volume during any action sequence.
        
           | subpar wrote:
           | Here's a great post from a post-production audio mixer
           | explaining the many convoluted steps that go into delivering
           | a final mix with correct loudness specs to end users. tldr,
           | there's a lot of room for error.
           | 
           | https://www.reddit.com/r/AudioPost/comments/y2m1u0/comment/i.
           | ..
        
         | progmetaldev wrote:
         | This is great. I wish there was a way to limit the volume on
         | Alexa devices for different services, especially Spotify. I
         | like to fall asleep to podcasts, but it wakes my girlfriend up
         | when the commercials start (especially iHeartRadio
         | commercials!), so I either have it so low I can barely hear or
         | I have to fall asleep to rain/ocean sounds.
        
           | midasuni wrote:
           | You could just pay for premium
        
       | xnx wrote:
       | This is the type of next-level ad blocking we need more of!
        
       | stabbles wrote:
       | Funnily enough the ads on this page take as much space as the
       | blog post
        
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