[HN Gopher] WLED Project
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       WLED Project
        
       Author : tambourine_man
       Score  : 173 points
       Date   : 2022-12-23 13:56 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
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       | jsjohnst wrote:
       | If you really want to get serious with WLED, check out the new
       | Quinled-Dig-Octa boards. Super affordable and hands down the
       | easiest way to get thousands of lights setup. 50-100A of LEDs, no
       | problem! You'll spend more on the power supply than you will on
       | Quindor's top notch boards.
       | 
       | https://quinled.info
       | 
       | (Not affiliated in any way except being a very happy customer)
        
         | leros wrote:
         | Thanks for sharing. I'm about to build a 20-30m long
         | installation of LEDs and I've been working out the power
         | distribution needs and such. This site is a perfect resource.
        
         | khimaros wrote:
         | +1000, we built a large scale art installation using Quinn's
         | DigQuad. they were easily the single most significant and
         | prudent technical decision made for our project. amazing
         | community, documentation, and high quality product.
        
           | lostlogin wrote:
           | Any chance of a link or photo or something?
        
           | whatusername wrote:
           | I'm curious -- why something small like a DigQuad and not
           | something beefier like a Falcon/Kulp?
           | 
           | (I guess I'm not sure what you mean by "large scale" -- but
           | WLED/ESP32 doesn't really tick the large box for me)
        
         | semi-extrinsic wrote:
         | Not sure how it compares, but I've been using the Evil Genius
         | Labs breakout boards for Wemos D1 and ESP32. They do level
         | shifting and provide very convenient access for attaching
         | multiple LED strips and using them with FastLED or WLED.
         | 
         | Currently running the Christmas lights from one of these, and
         | I've had another one banging around for a couple of years
         | running a LED strip that goes around the kids' bicycle trailer,
         | surviving frost and rain and salt spray, just powered off a USB
         | powerbank.
        
       | Abishek_Muthian wrote:
       | Any one new to LEDs and trying to learn some basics, Here's
       | 'Secret life of components' by Tim Hunkin[1].
       | 
       | [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvcITqw5iDY
        
       | hexo wrote:
       | Very nice, I have some questions tho - did esp got better than it
       | used to be? I mean - all esp devices i've used had MTBF between
       | 1-2 weeks. And what about zigbee 3.0 - how does it compare to
       | this (from all points of view)?
        
         | theshrike79 wrote:
         | ESP boards are Wifi, Zigbee is a completely different protocol
         | with encryption and mesh capabilities and all that.
        
         | thewataccount wrote:
         | I've had really good uptime once I added a capacitor on the
         | power rails. This was onto one of those WEMOS boards and a few
         | others too.
        
         | sokoloff wrote:
         | I think there's some common-mode failure source in your
         | particular application.
         | 
         | I've had several dozen of them running some in vehicles,
         | outside lightly shielded, in a basement, and on my desk. Some
         | are running right off an 18650 with no boost/buck converter. No
         | failures in several years , across low-end cheapest 8266
         | breakouts and 32s.
        
         | hackmiester wrote:
         | Are you maybe overvolting your ESPs? I've had an ESP8266
         | outdoors (shielded from rain, poorly) for 4 years with no
         | apparent issue.
         | 
         | Running one WLED device is much simpler than Zigbee. If you run
         | more than one, they use UDP to sync over your Wi-Fi. If you
         | have decent Wi-Fi, this will be much easier to set up than
         | Zigbee; if we are talking a more industrial installation, it
         | may not be a good fit.
        
         | Rebelgecko wrote:
         | That definitely doesn't line up with what I've seen,
         | failurewise. One of my ESP-32s has been running pretty much
         | continuously for 3 years without any trouble. And in the past
         | I've had no trouble running multiple for months at a time. The
         | only failures I've had, across maybe 4 different manufacturers,
         | happened when I did something dumb and unintentionally fried a
         | board.
        
           | hexo wrote:
           | Thanks for a good news!
        
         | ThrowawayTestr wrote:
         | I've had my ESP-01 outside in the winter cold for about a week
         | now and one inside running a lava lamp. Remember that it runs
         | off 3.3v, not 5.
        
       | Waterluvian wrote:
       | I got this neopixel ring in a kit and as a non-hardware person it
       | perplexes me how I'm supposed to use it. There's no mount points.
       | Is the expectation that everyone can design and print parts?
       | 
       | I can wire it up and program it but goodness knows how I actually
       | affix it to my Pololu Romi.
        
       | Marioheld wrote:
       | I really love this project. Very active developrer/ community and
       | many new features over the years. Also a very helpfull
       | documentation.
        
       | blockarchitech wrote:
       | Time to blow up a nodemcu.
       | 
       | Or two.
        
       | ThrowawayTestr wrote:
       | The 0.14 beta just released which adds support for 2d matrixes.
       | Great bit of software for easily controlling RGB strips.
        
       | khimaros wrote:
       | WLED can also be paired with OpenRGB to control many discrete
       | devices over the network via E1.31. there is also an open source
       | spatial napping plugin for OpenRGB which can be paired with an
       | effects plugin supporting GLSL shaders and even GIF or video
       | feeds. with this combination you can approach the capabilities of
       | proprietary systems which cost easily 20x.
        
       | iamflimflam1 wrote:
       | Since it's Christmas I feel I should post my old addressable LEDs
       | project.
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/Ic_MmhiT8qE
        
       | birdman3131 wrote:
       | So I had a stack of 12v pixel leds I picked up at an amazon
       | returns bin store a while back for $10 for 10 sets of 50 leds.
       | (Normally $120-150)
       | 
       | This was 6 strings (Only 5 visible), a D1 esp 8266 running wled
       | and a 12v power supply. Worked quite well.
       | 
       | https://imgur.com/a/C8BbDVI
        
       | brk wrote:
       | Been using WLED for a few years now, it's really a great project.
       | You can take the default build, flash it to an ESP device and get
       | started directly, or integrate it easily into other automation
       | systems and devices easily.
       | 
       | The amount of both features and general professionalism in the
       | interface is really incredible for an ESP-based project.
        
       | ensignavenger wrote:
       | I recently started looking for something really close to this,
       | and found this project.... but what I really want is a PoE
       | controller, because my LEDs need power anyway, so why not control
       | them with the same cable? Unfortunately I haven't found a WLED
       | compatible PoE controller.
       | 
       | Anyone know of such a thing?
        
         | MegaDeKay wrote:
         | In case you weren't aware, a long LED strip with a high density
         | of LEDs/m starts chewing up a lot of amps in a hurry depending
         | on the effect. So much so that a lot of people will inject
         | power into either end of the strip or even at multiple points
         | along a length of interconnected strips. Otherwise the current
         | draw causes a voltage drop that dims the LEDs and / or affects
         | their color at the far end.
         | 
         | Lots of WLED people (myself included) run with pretty beefy
         | dedicated 5V supplies and use decently heavy gauge wire to
         | connect to the strips.
         | 
         | I'd recommend going the other way around. Connect to the ESP
         | wirelessly and use a beefy dedicated supply to power both it
         | and the LEDs.
        
           | dekhn wrote:
           | To give an idea of what's possible, I built a "4K" display
           | with addressable LEDs. It was 64 strips of 64 pixels each.
           | There was no need to do any power injection (uniform
           | intensity across the whole board). I did the same as you:
           | beefy dedicated 5V supplies. Even then, I was a bit worried
           | because lighting up the entire display at full power pulled
           | over a kilowatt. The person I gave the LEDs to then
           | reconnecting them into 1 long strip and had to do power
           | injection,.
        
           | jes5199 wrote:
           | can you recommend some specific power supplies? I've got a
           | project that's been stalled out for long time because I don't
           | know the right way to power it
        
             | MegaDeKay wrote:
             | For sure. You don't want to get some dicey supply that
             | might burn your house down. I got a Mean Well LRS-200-5
             | Switching Power Supply from Mouser (200W at 5V = 40A !!!).
             | Mean Well makes quality supplies at reasonable prices and
             | are a popular brand with the WLED crowd. Be sure to buy the
             | 25cent piece of plastic that snaps over top of the AC
             | terminals so you don't electrocute yourself. And get some
             | inline fuses while you are at it to be on the safe side
             | (unless you are getting something like a QuinLED board that
             | builds that in). You'll also want some terminal to barrel
             | connectors to.
             | 
             | If you want some solid information, Quindor has you
             | covered: https://quinled.info/2018/10/01/tools-and-
             | equipment/
        
             | ThrowawayTestr wrote:
             | Each WS2812 draws 60mA at full brightness. I have a 32*32
             | array for 60A, but I only intend to run them at half
             | brightness so I got a 40A supply.
        
           | ensignavenger wrote:
           | Thank you, I was aware of this for longer strips. My first
           | project I want to do is my kitchen cabinets, using shorter
           | length led strips. I have 8 cat6 cables running to my kitchen
           | cabinets now for this project, which should be plenty of
           | power for the short runs of LED strips I will be using.
           | 
           | A larger under the roof eaves display would be pretty cool
           | though- will have to carefully look at the power for that if
           | I ever do it.
        
         | brk wrote:
         | There are a relatively limited number of PoE ESP32 options. The
         | Olimax unit seems to be workable with WS2812 style strips,
         | possibly with a little bit of hacking.
        
         | jsjohnst wrote:
         | The most you can pull off a PoE switch is usually under 30W.
         | Given you'll also lose efficiency stepping down the voltage,
         | you might get say a single 5 meter strip powered at best off
         | that PoE connection.
        
         | sowbug wrote:
         | I use PoE adapters that have micro USB power-out plugs. The
         | thing being powered uses either Ethernet or WiFi, depending on
         | what it is.
        
       | MauranKilom wrote:
       | I have a long term project of room lighting that reacts to music.
       | I've gotten my feet wet working with the LED strips already, but
       | hadn't heard of WLED - sounds extremely promising!
       | 
       | Does somebody have an idea whether "real-time" music <-> light
       | sync is feasible with WLED? I plan to have the audio processing
       | happening outside the ESP32, but then I'm still concerned about
       | the bandwidth requirements (driving ~300 NeoPixels), because
       | ideally I don't want to just trigger "discrete" effects but
       | retain full control. I just wonder whether WLED puts any
       | significant overhead in there that I wouldn't run into with
       | something hand-rolled...
        
         | whatusername wrote:
         | WLED has sound reactive plugins for built-in effects. Looks
         | like there's some new stuff in .14 for this as well -- but I
         | haven't followed closely.
         | 
         | Or if you wanted to externalise it completely - it supports
         | DDP/E1.31 -- you could generate the required effect externally
         | - and just send the commands over the network. That should do
         | 40 updates per second for 300 pixels. Ideally send it over
         | ethernet - but you could probably pull it off over a good wifi
         | network.
        
       | dark-star wrote:
       | Funny, just 2 days ago I ordered two RGB LED strips and a power
       | supply to play around with during the holidays. I will definitely
       | check this out, seems to save me some programming :-)
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Related:
       | 
       |  _WLED Arduino WiFi LED Controller_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29970819 - Jan 2022 (20
       | comments)
        
       | RoddyRags wrote:
       | Made a mega comet across our living room window with 2x esp32 and
       | 2x 300 RGBW strips. One in a star 5 points 10 segments. The other
       | strip as a 2 pronged tail on the comet (2 segments) which becomes
       | more wiggly (turbulent) with distance.
       | 
       | This project totally made my Christmas I could spend ages playing
       | with the settings and mixing the right colours & speeds...
       | 
       | Setting the 2 to sync with each other or do their own thing is
       | sooo easy, even my mother in law enjoyed controlling it.
       | 
       | Even a wee 24 rgb LED ring can have cool effects with this superb
       | software
        
         | jve wrote:
         | Care to share video?
        
       | ct0 wrote:
       | WLED got me back into programming micro-controller and soldering.
       | Tons of fun to be had at a relatively low cost of entry.
        
       | mmmmax wrote:
       | This is an amazing project and if you like WLED you'll also like
       | Pixelblaze which is full-stack including a coding interface:
       | https://electromage.com/pixelblaze
        
         | vosper wrote:
         | If I wanted to make a programmable LED grid in the least DIY
         | way possible (I know nothing about electronics), would
         | Pixelblaze be a good option?
        
           | hackmiester wrote:
           | Yes.
        
           | bombledmonk wrote:
           | I think the short answer to your question is yes.
           | 
           | You still have to be able to hook up few wires and you'll
           | need to be able to power your LEDs and understand your power
           | needs there, but the live compilation in web based
           | development platform (that's served by the device, no cloud)
           | makes it really ideal for rapid prototyping and getting up
           | and running quickly. No fussing with Arduino IDE or compile
           | times. It's one of those things that "just works".
           | 
           | If you want to see it in action:
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMKltz8ji0k
        
         | jonwest wrote:
         | I wish there was a way to flash this to existing hardware. I've
         | already got my LEDs running on ESP32s and I'd love to play with
         | it, but I don't want to have to wait for/pay for international
         | shipping for essentially the same hardware.
         | 
         | Seems like a super cool project though! The effects look really
         | cool and more "organic" than the WLED effects (to me at least),
         | but I think I'll just need to live vicariously through
         | YouTubers on this one haha
        
       | agys wrote:
       | Recently we built a LED sign for a bar named "Cinque a Zero" like
       | a Campari based cocktail. We used a single Teensy 4.1 + a simple
       | custom board that we designed to drive around 10K RGBW LEDs.
       | 
       | Twitter thread with some background:
       | 
       | https://twitter.com/andreasgysin/status/1472943758467645450?...
        
       | poutine wrote:
       | I've been toying a lot with this recently.
       | 
       | A tip for anyone that's interested, you can order a compatible
       | LED strip from Ali Express for much cheaper than Amazon, though
       | you're going to wait several weeks. For example, do a search for
       | WS2815 LED Strips and compare.
       | 
       | BTW, if you're doing just single color check out COB LED strips,
       | they're pretty cool with the uniform lighting over the strip. Get
       | them in 24v to avoid voltage drop.
       | 
       | LED Strips are lots of fun to play with and pretty easy to chop
       | up, power and control.
        
         | spookthesunset wrote:
         | Or look at the SK6812 LED strips. You'll get RGBW, which is
         | perfect for cool looking task lighting
        
       | eamonnsullivan wrote:
       | Not sure why this is being promoted today (new release?), but I
       | absolutely love this project. I use esp32 boards to power two
       | strips in the house and another is currently powering my
       | Christmas lights outside. The integration with Home Assistant is
       | awesome. I just this week made the outside lights do a little
       | dance (turn different colours and wave) when the doorbell rings.
        
         | nevi-me wrote:
         | I've been building a project from scratch. Creating closet
         | lights using an ESP32 and W2812B strips. I'm mostly getting
         | myself accustomed to Matter, as I'm more building something
         | that I'll integrate with Google Home.
         | 
         | It's great that this is on HN, I otherwise wouldn't have known
         | about it. Looks like it can take care of the lighting control,
         | and then I can worry about exposing a Rainmaker interface.
        
         | MegaDeKay wrote:
         | Probably because of the release of 0.14 beta1. Here is the
         | announcement from their Discord posted yesterday by Aircookie
         | 
         | ~~~
         | 
         | After a way too long time, I am thrilled to finally share the
         | new official beta, 0.14.0-b1, with you, just in time for
         | Christmas! https://install.wled.me/
         | 
         | Don't let yourself be fooled by the beta moniker, this version
         | offers so much more than 0.13
         | 
         | 0.14 is such a huge step forward in comparison to 0.13 that
         | there are way too many epic new features and improvements to
         | even start listing here. The two most major additions are
         | native support for 2D matrix panels and effects as well as
         | audio reactivity via usermod!
         | 
         | A huge thank you from the bottom of my heart to everyone who
         | contributed to the project in the last year, especially
         | @blazoncek , @softhack007 , @ewowi and the WLED-SR fork team,
         | who together have contributed, if I had to approximate, 90% of
         | the new 0.14 code!
        
         | tambourine_man wrote:
         | Because same people let lights decorations for the last days
         | before Xmas. And the Google search thing might have led them
         | that path. Not that I'd know who said people are.
        
       | codeslave13 wrote:
       | Anyone recommend a "beginners starter kit" to start exploring
       | wled stuff? Ie. A board, pa, and smallish or various strip
       | options? Thanks
        
         | poutine wrote:
         | Check out the Athom box, available on Ali Express:
         | 
         | https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003776848515.html?spm=a2...
         | 
         | It's an all in one with WLED on it. You just need a strip, some
         | wire and a power supply.
        
           | antsar wrote:
           | Also available from their site with much faster shipping than
           | AliExpress's Jan 20 (to the US, at least).
           | 
           | https://www.athom.tech/
           | 
           | Happily using this little guy to drive 100 fairy lights (from
           | Adafruit), all from a USB plug.
           | 
           | https://www.athom.tech/blank-1/wled-2812b-led-strip-
           | controll...
        
         | jareklupinski wrote:
         | Personally a fan of Adafruit's Feather boards, their ESP32
         | Feather can probably use the WLED code as-is, and there's
         | expansions that include all the LEDs already soldered
         | https://www.adafruit.com/product/2945
        
           | spdustin wrote:
           | Can confirm that Huzzah32 runs WLED just fine. Really
           | convenient to have that LiPo battery connector and charging
           | circuit built in, too.
        
         | ThrowawayTestr wrote:
         | Search "ESP RGB" on AliExpress. There's a $2 breakout board for
         | the ESP-01 that makes it really easy to run LED strips. All you
         | have to do it power it with 5V and the board converts it for
         | the ESP.
        
         | jsjohnst wrote:
         | check out the boards made by Quindor. Very solid, very
         | affordable. https://quinled.info
         | 
         | His videos and blog posts are super helpful too!
        
       | spdustin wrote:
       | I used WLED to make an RGB LED effect-laden scarf for my wife,
       | and then decided to add the same setup to a Santa hat. Now, as
       | long as one ESP32 can access the other (either over the built-in
       | access point or any shared WiFi network) the effects she chooses
       | on her scarf sync to the brim of my Santa hat :)
       | 
       | I love WLED so hard.
        
         | patrick91 wrote:
         | do you have pictures or a write up about this? sounds very
         | neat!
        
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