[HN Gopher] I'm sure LastPass setting the delete account to disp...
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       I'm sure LastPass setting the delete account to display: none was
       coincidental
        
       Author : detaro
       Score  : 150 points
       Date   : 2022-12-24 22:06 UTC (53 minutes ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (infosec.exchange)
        
       | darkstar999 wrote:
       | Apparently they have never heard about the Streisand Effect.
        
       | wyxuan wrote:
       | * * *
        
       | Johnny555 wrote:
       | The title would make more sense with quotes around the CSS
       | keywords:
       | 
       |  _I 'm sure LastPass setting the delete account to "display:
       | none" was coincidental_
        
         | _the_inflator wrote:
         | I got it right the first time. Too much time spend with CSS.
         | 
         | Nevertheless you are right. Clarity is needed here.
        
         | princevegeta89 wrote:
         | Took me a while to understand. OP, you're encouraged to kindly
         | make the CSS terminology stand out a little more obviously in
         | the title.
        
       | bigmattystyles wrote:
       | I work at a large company and against the opinion of many
       | engineers and infosec folks, lastpass was picked as our preferred
       | corporate password storage. I'm just waiting for a call from
       | infosec asking me to log on and to rotate a bunch of creds. Happy
       | Holidays.
        
         | jiggawatts wrote:
         | Our new parent company -- that works in a security-sensitive
         | industry -- rolled out LastPass over the last few months.
         | 
         | I sent a warning letter to the CISO listing the previous hacks
         | and vulnerabilities in LastPass.
         | 
         | Then this new hack happened, and the CISO sent out a letter
         | saying that there is nothing to be concerned about and that all
         | is well.
         | 
         | When the news broke that the breach was worse than predicted, I
         | sent another letter to the CISO highlighting the concern.
         | 
         | So far, I've had zero responses to any of my emails. Just radio
         | silence. The cold shoulder treatment. Dogs barking in the
         | distance. Etc...
         | 
         | I'm starting to suspect that the CISO is getting some sort of
         | kickback from LastPass, because he's doubling down with every
         | breach on a bad decision.
         | 
         | Has anyone else had any experience with LastPass offering
         | outright bribes to senior staff to get sales? If I can point to
         | a precedent, that would be helpful.
        
           | jacksnipe wrote:
           | He doesn't need to be getting a kickback. He probably just
           | wants to spin as hard as he can that his poor choice cost did
           | not cost the company a bunch of money.
        
           | fabian2k wrote:
           | I wouldn't suspect kickbacks immediately, simply trying to
           | avoid blame for the initial decision seems motive enough.
        
           | KMag wrote:
           | It's human nature to repeatedly double-down on any strongly
           | stated opinion until its defence becomes untenable. It takes
           | repeated intentional practice to keep your ego in check.
        
           | random_kris wrote:
           | You are reading too much into it. Probably ciso is busy with
           | other things and cannot respond to every's smartass wishes.
        
           | kortilla wrote:
           | There is absolutely no reason to suspect kickbacks when there
           | is already a massive incentive to not be seen as responsible
           | for a massive blunder and waste of company resources.
           | 
           | The moment some exec pushes for some tech or process change,
           | they become incentivized to ignore all problems and sell it
           | as a success.
        
         | sys_64738 wrote:
         | At my previous employer I remember saying don't do it with
         | LastPass as the credentials will get stolen. The so-called tech
         | lead said, "I hear what you're saying but it's been decided." I
         | wonder what he is thinking now when he hears about this.
         | Probably nothing.
        
       | jiggawatts wrote:
       | Senior LastPass manager: "Decrease customer churn!"
       | 
       | Junior LastPass manager: "Okay!"
        
         | danuker wrote:
         | Christmas retention miracle
        
       | erikrit wrote:
       | I thought this was a joke, but it's actually true; just verified
       | on my account...
        
       | garganzol wrote:
       | Is LastPass one of those password managers that only encrypt
       | passwords and leave other data as is? I always cringe when
       | password managers do that. This is a funny joke for anyone who
       | understands even a little about cryptography.
        
         | driscoll42 wrote:
         | This is very frustrating... I operated with LastPass on the
         | assumption that the other data was encrypted in there. So
         | backup authentication codes stored. Alas, time to invalidate a
         | bunch of crap.
        
         | dividedbyzero wrote:
         | I see why it's a bad idea, but what does that have to do with
         | cryptography?
        
           | mikechalmers wrote:
           | I don't understand enough to know why it's a bad idea but
           | Cryptography is the practice and study of techniques for
           | secure communication in the presence of adversarial
           | behaviour, so this part seems clear to me.
        
       | pram wrote:
       | I spent last night resetting dozens of passwords and migrating
       | everything into Keychain. Some observations:
       | 
       | Keychain integration with 2fa codes is really nice. Passkeys are
       | awesome and I wish more sites implemented this. So far I only saw
       | Google and eBay?
        
         | judge2020 wrote:
         | > Passkeys are awesome and I wish more sites implemented this.
         | 
         | 99% of the time, websites that allow you to use a "Security
         | Key" or "Fingerprint" are using WebAuthn, which is all that's
         | needed for PassKeys to work, (besides a few sites that use a
         | stricter webauthn config).
        
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