[HN Gopher] CoreFreq, a CPU monitoring software frequencies, rat...
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       CoreFreq, a CPU monitoring software frequencies, ratios, C-states
        
       Author : zdw
       Score  : 66 points
       Date   : 2022-12-24 15:09 UTC (3 days ago)
        
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       | deagle50 wrote:
       | I just switched my desktop to linux (thanks Proton!) and this
       | looks promising to replicate my Hydra setup.
        
       | eikenberry wrote:
       | What is the use case of this tool? Debugging embedded hardware
       | issues or something? The requirement of an kernel module raises
       | the bar quite a bit and I don't really understand the need.
        
         | bitcharmer wrote:
         | The first thing that comes to mind when considering why this
         | requires a form of a kernel module would be accessing
         | functionality that normally results in protection faults, eg.
         | trying to disable LAPIC interrupts from userspace with
         | combination of iopl(3) and CLI instruction.
        
         | jeffbee wrote:
         | I don't get it either. It doesn't give more information than
         | `turbostat` or `powertop`. In fact it gives much less
         | information. And installing the kernel module starts timers
         | that immediately become the main reason the system is awake and
         | drawing power, at least on my Intel "Raptor Lake" desktop.
        
       | ninkendo wrote:
       | Just FYI, "A software" is grammatically incorrect, as Software is
       | a mass noun, not a collective noun. "Softwares" isn't a word, for
       | instance. (Similar to "money", in that you wouldn't say "I have a
       | money, you have a money, and together we have two monies", you
       | just say "I have money, you have money, together we have more
       | money".)
        
         | bluedino wrote:
         | People saying 'codes' and 'softwares' is one of my pet peeves.
         | 
         | I'm an American, btw. It's just 'code' and 'software' to me.
         | Now I just use it as a hint that the person isn't American,
         | much like when someone says 'maths'.
        
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           | stonogo wrote:
           | "A code" or "our codes" to describe software packages is
           | _extremely_ common in scientific computing, even in America.
        
         | loeg wrote:
         | They're French.
        
         | dtgriscom wrote:
         | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/monies
        
         | worldsavior wrote:
         | Couldn't there be a collection of software? Hence softwares?
        
           | ninkendo wrote:
           | You can have a collection of programs. Or a collection of
           | "pieces of software". But not "a collection of softwares."
           | Software can be considered to be already plural in a sense,
           | because it refers to the set of programs/procedures needed to
           | perform a specific task.
           | 
           | https://www.dailywritingtips.com/is-software-a-mass-noun/
           | 
           | Similar with money, you can have multiple _dollars_ , but you
           | don't have multiple _monies_.
           | 
           | "Hardware" also works this way, but it's probably more
           | obvious to people. If I have some hardware, and I buy more
           | hardware, I wouldn't say "I now have two hardwares."
        
             | Chris2048 wrote:
             | I'm sure somewhere in the world is an FX trader referring
             | to "monies"..
        
           | duped wrote:
           | A collection of software is software.
        
         | temp0826 wrote:
         | More on "monies" and plural mass nouns-
         | 
         | https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/money-plural-u...
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | drewg123 wrote:
       | Why does it need a kernel module, rather than just using the MSR
       | API like similar tools do? Intel's PCM tools for example, show
       | quite similar information, and are available on a variety of
       | OSes..
        
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