[HN Gopher] Saying "sup" with `net send`
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       Saying "sup" with `net send`
        
       Author : markchristian
       Score  : 305 points
       Date   : 2022-12-28 04:47 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | bcjordan wrote:
       | Same experience as OP and others here in discovering this setting
       | (also in middle school). While sitting next to a friend I
       | jokingly typed out "net send * [our third friend's name]"
       | intending it as a "haha wouldn't that be wild. OK let's delete
       | this now" quip, but my friend reached over and hit ENTER, we ran
       | away from the computer like it was radioactive, and later
       | discovered it was sent school district wide. We had used a non-
       | user specific account but cracked under the pressure of being
       | grilled as the obvious suspects for any computer shenanigans at
       | our school and being good friends with friend #3.
       | 
       | The third friend's father was LIVID that our friend's name was
       | besmirched by being placed in the contents of the pop-up, later
       | threatened me over the phone, and put pressure on the school to
       | throw the book at us (fulfilling his promise to "TAKE THIS TO THE
       | MAT!"). My friend and I were suspended for a day and banned from
       | visiting the high school computer club for some weeks.
       | 
       | From the district IT perspective the middle school's punishment
       | somewhat backfired because news of our suspension resulted in
       | many more students across the district learning about the
       | command, greatly increasing the # of incidents and becoming a
       | district-wide. They weren't able to figure out how to turn it off
       | for a year+ after. As a temporary measure they made the printer
       | in the high school library print out the originating computer of
       | every net send message, which often backed up printer and caused
       | the HS librarians (my mom happened to be the head one lol) to
       | have to remove these useless sheets from the printer all day.
       | 
       | 0/10 would not recommend glob experimentation
        
       | 0_throwaway_000 wrote:
       | LUL Brilliant!
        
       | BoppreH wrote:
       | Once upon a time we were pranking each other in the university
       | lab. We thought ourselves pretty clever by convincing a friend to
       | run a Fork Bomb.
       | 
       | "What is it supposed to do? Nothing's happening."
       | 
       | "Really? Did you run it in a shell?"
       | 
       | "Yeah, in my SSH session in the main server."
       | 
       |  _Oh._
       | 
       | The server was down for a couple of days while the admin figured
       | out what happened, fixed it, and limited the number of open
       | processes per user.
        
       | donatj wrote:
       | I too discovered the wild card net send in high school. I was at
       | an assigned computer in class though and ended up with a stern
       | talk from IT in which they claimed I caused all sorts of network
       | issues. I thought it was hooey at the time but I was pretty
       | sheepish about the whole thing.
       | 
       | I didn't get in trouble and returned to class.
       | 
       | Later that year I installed VNC server on my friends workstation
       | in the same class and used it to mess with him during class. We
       | had a pretty good laugh. Another friend saw this happen, took the
       | idea with some of his friends and a few days later installed VNC
       | server on a bunch of computers throughout the building. My
       | understanding is they generally caused a bunch of chaos, it was
       | figured out who had done it, and the group were arrested(!). They
       | ended up with community service if I recall.
       | 
       | I very thankfully was not pulled into this at all and found out
       | about the whole thing later.
        
       | andrensairr wrote:
       | What fun that was. My friends and I did something much more
       | innocuous in high school and earned outselves a stern talking-to:
       | we changed the IE/Netscape home page on half- a dozen lab
       | computers to a Geocities/Angelfire site we'd made and on which we
       | had been experimenting with JS. Nothing sinister or malicious,
       | but enough to cause a bit of confusion for a few students. The
       | school's admins ran a pretty tight ship policy-wise, but it was a
       | veritable playground for "network-curious" sorts like myself.
        
       | iforgotpassword wrote:
       | Oh the NT4.0 days. When we found out about the "*" feature, we
       | spammed each other and everyone like crazy. A few days later the
       | admin got very mad, as he found the domain controller showing
       | hundreds of stupid messages that he had to dismiss one by one. It
       | took him a few more days to figure out how to disable the
       | messenger service. In the meantime someone found out that the
       | sender and receiver displayed in the messagebox were actually
       | included in the payload of the "protocol" and not verified by the
       | receiver. So someone cobbled together a little tool that was even
       | more fun.
        
       | tialaramex wrote:
       | Severals groups of boys at my grammar school+ built what were
       | called "User groups" which were "online" services accessible only
       | on the school's computers with (at least theoretically) exclusive
       | membership. There'd be maybe some simple games for your users,
       | perhaps some sort of "bulletin board" and most often a "chat"
       | service. Except, on the PCs we were increasingly using, these
       | chat services all worked by using file I/O to a shared file,
       | which is obviously very hard on the poor file server in ~1991
       | which is when this would have been happening. So the "chat
       | services" were banned by staff. But I figured out how to write
       | NetBIOS/NetBEUI software so I could implement chat without
       | touching files, and this was allowed, increasing popularity of my
       | User group, which I believe was named "Erewhon 2280".
       | 
       | + for Americans, the UK used to have selective education, some
       | parts of the country still do, under this system children who
       | test well at age 11 or 12 are sent to different state funded
       | schools from their peers, mostly single sex such as a Grammar
       | School, so that's a school of mostly high achieving all boys,
       | this is probably a bad idea on net but it's popular for various
       | reasons.
        
       | queuebert wrote:
       | The hidden copy of UT resonated deeply with me. We spent many
       | hours playing Doom and Quake in the high school computer lab when
       | the teacher was out of the room. Every time we were discovered we
       | had to hide it somewhere else.
        
         | pedro2 wrote:
         | Best way to hide files on Windows: \$Recycle.Bin :)
        
       | acjohnson55 wrote:
       | We had a computer lab that overlooked our library, which also had
       | computers. It was fun to pick a specific computer and `net send`
       | messages to that person that made it clear they were being
       | watched. I sure hope we didn't cross any lines messing with
       | people, but I really can't remember.
        
       | cramjabsyn wrote:
       | Had the same experience at my school, but IT was much slower. net
       | send * worked for weeks if not months
        
       | amccloud wrote:
       | I don't quite recall how I did it but I have a similar story of
       | ejecting disc trays across my HS and school district. something
       | with novell iirc
        
       | throwaway742 wrote:
       | The command that got me in trouble was shutdown /i
        
       | whalesalad wrote:
       | My entire school district was in the same domain/workgroup and so
       | I remember sending a net send to literally every computer on the
       | network, 4 high schools (mine had a population of 4K students), 3
       | middle schools and a dozen elementary schools. The IT department
       | came running into the computer lab to figure out who had done it.
       | I simply closed the window, switched back to MS Word and played
       | dumb. Good times.
       | 
       | A few months later I got expelled for some Novell netware breakin
       | shenanigans but that whole experience was well worth it. I had
       | been booting into slax and stealing SAM files from shared/library
       | computers and then cracking them at home with lophtcrack to
       | figure out passwords. The top level system admin had a 5 letter
       | dictionary word, "north" as his password. I had keys to the
       | kingdom. I'd shut systems down all the time for fun but never
       | broke a thing. They tried to throw the book at me but fortunately
       | it all fizzled out in the end.
        
         | metadat wrote:
         | Do you mean suspended? Expulsion is a permaban and means you
         | have to find a new school to attend.
         | 
         | In any case, your tenacious dedication to the cause was
         | admirable.
        
       | bayesianbot wrote:
       | All these people getting trouble for net sending are not going
       | far enough.
       | 
       | When I was in school the admin left his account logged in and
       | left the room. I was there to make few admin accounts to myself,
       | and later programmed malware that worked as a keylogger and gave
       | me some remote control of all the machines (I put it inside a
       | .BAT script that was ran after login, distributing it to every
       | computer in the school).
       | 
       | I used my powers by downloading stuff and burning it to CDs as I
       | didn't have a good connection. I also gave some access to my
       | friends, and the computer lab turned into a war zone. We were
       | opening stuff on other people's screens, but not good stuff.
       | Things like Goatse and people doing stuff with farm animals they
       | shouldn't be doing..
       | 
       | After some time it had gone way too mad and computer lab got shut
       | down. But the crazy thing is, after a while the school just let
       | it go and didn't even notify our parents. Apparently, nobody
       | wants to tell the parents that a room in school has been OnlyFans
       | Farm Edition for a while.. I had some stern talks with the
       | principal and IT teacher as the only suspect, but that was it.
        
       | efitz wrote:
       | I worked for Microsoft during those times doing security for
       | Windows.
       | 
       | In the early 90s employees still occasionally used the Messenger
       | service (the service behind "net send") for messaging. It was
       | originally intended for alerts like print job completion or
       | server powering down, but it became widely abused.
       | 
       | It could actually be used over the internet if the target machine
       | was addressable, eg had a non-rfc1518 address.
       | 
       | We started getting lots of complaints about abuse in the mid 90s
       | as the web was taking off, and changed our best practice
       | recommendations to disable that service; it was not mission
       | critical.
       | 
       | Most of the low level NetBIOS services were designed naively
       | before people thought much about security; we eventually disabled
       | or removed most of them.
        
         | urbandw311er wrote:
         | > most of them
         | 
         | ...surely begs an interesting question!
        
       | drivers99 wrote:
       | I was worried for them, glad it worked out. I wouldn't be so sure
       | about this statement: "now that I'm a grownup I know that [...]
       | we wouldn't have gotten in very much trouble anyway."
       | 
       | Unfortunately this was the type of thing that would get students
       | banned from the computers, or only allowed to actually use the
       | computers on Friday to do their computer science work (like my
       | friend Dave).
       | 
       | Speaking of NET SEND specifically, I went to a vendor for
       | training once (circa 2000) and they mentioned someone who had
       | recently come for training and was sent home because they had
       | used NET SEND * there. I wonder what their employer thought of
       | that.
       | 
       | Either me or a friend has at some point (in the 80s or 90s as
       | minor students) been: kicked out of computer lab, had notes
       | posted in the library that we are not to "hone our programming
       | skills", kicked out of the Supercomputer Challenge[1], been told
       | (second-hand) we're "a security risk" by the government, been put
       | specifically under remote monitoring by the teacher, lectured,
       | sent to the principle, had the police sent to their house, been
       | told we "probably have an FBI record" and "are putting their
       | parents' jobs at risk" over similar levels of playing around with
       | computers that they let us use, not even trying to do anything
       | particularly "hacker (cracker)"-like.
       | 
       | [1] https://supercomputingchallenge.org/22-23/index.php (Not this
       | specific year obviously. More like 30 years ago.)
        
       | gorkish wrote:
       | just wanted to say I enjoyed the alert() at the end
       | 
       | It was an absolute free for all when windows machines started to
       | be plugged into campus networks.
       | 
       | The prankster's evolution generally went from net send to NetBus
       | and then to Back Orifice in those days as the tools rapidly made
       | such tomfoolery a point-and-click affair. Interestingly many of
       | the features in these early Windows prankster/hacking tools
       | heavily shaped modern day remote administration / MDM software. I
       | actually remember BO being used as a proper remote management
       | tool in some situations.
        
         | AdamJacobMuller wrote:
         | Sub7!
        
       | vyrotek wrote:
       | It's fun to see how we had such similar experiences growing up.
       | We pretty much did the same thing in high school with Net Send.
       | Except we sent "All your base are belong to us" and then left the
       | library computer lab in a real hurry once we saw the message go
       | everywhere. Pretty sure it reached other schools too.
        
       | jastanton wrote:
       | I did: "net send * The server room is on fire, please turn off
       | your computer!"
       | 
       | Not only that, but my computer name was assigned to my username
       | so it said my full name next to it.....
       | 
       | I was called up to the office within 2 seconds and immediately
       | suspended. I also got braces that dad. Rough day. :(
        
       | nicbou wrote:
       | I can't get enough of these stories from the early days of
       | computing. Perhaps I was just young, but those years felt magical
       | to me.
        
       | e808 wrote:
       | I recall in the late 80s on vt100's accessing BITNET allowed you
       | to 'net send'-like to other BITNET nodes around the country. I
       | used to randomly try to contact other users at other random
       | educational institutions after using the 'finger' equivalent to
       | remote BITNET sites. I can only imagine how my messaging probably
       | messed up their terminal session screens and just end-user
       | confusion ensuing.
       | 
       | Another 'write' unix shenanigans was the ability to send control
       | sequences, so one could send a 'terminal reset' sequence to any
       | user online a terminal room using a dumb terminal (wyse, vt100
       | etc) and it would quickly reset the terminal and log them off.
       | One could even send a long sequence of control strings to force a
       | crude ascii animation, then reset terminal if you wish. (not me
       | of course)
        
       | pedro2 wrote:
       | Ah the memories of innocence in computing :)
        
       | moron4hire wrote:
       | IIRC, you could do this by IP, also. I remember my best friend in
       | college and I mapping out the addresses of all the computers in
       | our main lab and using it to send messages between each other.
       | Kept the map in a notebook so we always knew where to send to
       | regardless of where we sat down. We also used it to troll the
       | student in front of us who was looking at porn and playing games
       | in the middle of class. It didn't get shut off until after we
       | came back between semesters, so I don't think we ever explicitly
       | got caught, other than network techs seeing someone was doing
       | something.
        
       | donalhunt wrote:
       | At university, we had a whole IM network built around "write" on
       | a multiuser *nix server (over the past 20+ years, the university
       | netsoc has run services on freebsd, solaris and various flavours
       | of Linux). We also had terminal based maps which would allow you
       | to find friends based on the IP they logged in from.
       | 
       | See https://c-hey.redbrick.dcu.ie/ for the wrapper around write.
       | These days students seem to prefer discord. :/
        
       | rmccue wrote:
       | Exactly the same experience for me, and similar with the game
       | too.
       | 
       | We figured out that while the C: drive wasn't accessible in
       | Explorer directly, you could create a desktop shortcut directly
       | to subfolders. Installed a copy of Worms World Party on all of
       | our machines using that; somehow, although the machines were
       | imaged weekly, it ended up on the image and got copied across to
       | every school computer which was convenient.
       | 
       | I also went a step further with the joke messages, creating a
       | program which showed a bunch of dialogs with choices in a loop.
       | It couldn't be closed and some choices did things like open/close
       | the CD tray (as a "diagnostic"). People started just dragging it
       | to the corner of the screen out of sight.
       | 
       | We also had a self sign-up system for sports, where you could
       | pick a main interschool sport, or a "development" sport that was
       | more about learning interesting stuff. The system was pretty
       | insecure, using your date of birth as a "password", but it also
       | turned out that it had an SQL injection, so I used that to set
       | everyone's sport to Equestrian. Getting to hear an announcement
       | at the school assembly about how the computer system had a
       | problem was pretty great. I even emailed them about the injection
       | issue but they never fixed it. (A risky move, really.)
        
       | adamrezich wrote:
       | I also discovered net send in high school and abused it similarly
       | for a brief time, but never knew it had wildcard support! wow
        
       | chagaif wrote:
       | Totally worth reading until the very very end, loved the js alert
       | :)
        
       | Hikikomori wrote:
       | Had 3.5 weeks of excel classes in school, completed everything in
       | 2 days and spent the rest of the time playing quake or annoying
       | the ones not finished with net send in loops. Now that I think
       | about I'm not sure this classroom of computers were on their own
       | broadcast network or not, but they were running an older version
       | of windows that didn't block net send by default while others had
       | a newer version.
        
       | schmichael wrote:
       | I remember doing this! I remember graduating to the more
       | nefarious "Microsoft's IPX implementation responds to broadcast
       | pings". It might have been this CVE:
       | https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security-updates/securityb...
       | 
       | Luckily I went to a school that believed in redirecting the
       | (endless) time and (boundless) energy of obnoxious nerds like me,
       | and I spent far more time helping out than breaking things. Or at
       | least I hope... the long tail on the IPX ping was pretty painful
       | to stop.
        
       | grahar64 wrote:
       | Same series of events happened at my school.
       | 
       | 1. Discover net send
       | 
       | 2. Discover net send *
       | 
       | 3. Get in trouble for using net send *
       | 
       | The next step was discovering telnet and the schools smtp server.
        
         | nsenifty wrote:
         | Same here. However we discovered that the windows service
         | "messenger" had to be re-enabled on the target machine to make
         | this work again. So we'd sneak into a gullible person's
         | computer, log in (each one of us was an admin, yay!), run "net
         | start messenger" and were back in action!
        
         | nirav72 wrote:
         | Spoofing email addresses and sending prank emails via open SMTP
         | gateways was fun. Pretty much all smtp gateways were open back
         | in those days.
        
       | csmattryder wrote:
       | When your school's IT department realise you're doing this, and
       | remove "Command Prompt" from the machine's whitelist, you
       | definitely shouldn't create a file called "COMMAND.COM" and
       | double-click it to get into the prompt again...
        
       | superhawk610 wrote:
       | My high school also had a hidden copy of Unreal Tournament
       | squirreled away on a network share somewhere, half of CS class
       | always finished up with 20 minutes to spare to get in a few
       | rounds. Good times.
        
       | xaduha wrote:
       | Yep, happened to me. Literally just sent 'Test'. Got yelled at by
       | two people, but that's about it.
        
       | lormayna wrote:
       | I had a friend that was very religious, he also had a blog about
       | religion. Me and a friend of mine sent him a series of
       | profanities via email through an open SMTP relay, that seemed
       | like it was coming from one of the parish leader's account. I am
       | very embarrassed now for doing that, but it was really funny in
       | the moment.
        
       | greggarious wrote:
       | >When I was in junior high, my friends and I discovered that a
       | Command Prompt command called net send was enabled on our school
       | network
       | 
       | I knew some folks who did that as well. Unfortunately I was not
       | in the set of folks who could get away with such nonsense. You
       | were incredibly privileged, and need to be mindful of that for
       | the rest of your life.
        
       | hex4def6 wrote:
       | This brings back memories.
       | 
       | My favorite discovery was that the "scheduled tasks" folder was
       | shared on every computer in our school. This meant you could do
       | the net send * bomb from a friend / enemies computer, and get
       | them in trouble.
       | 
       | The other fun one was Borland C++ 6 had a limit on how wide the
       | code window could be -- you could only horizontally scroll so
       | far. However, you could hold down tab for a few seconds, then
       | write something like cout<<"logout next time"; in their code.
       | Unless you knew the trick, you'd never find the code afterwards
       | -- you couldn't scroll to the right far enough due to the
       | limitation of the viewing window.
        
       | mickeyp wrote:
       | Heh. If you used the underlying windows api calls, you could
       | spoof the sender. Something I discovered when I did just that, in
       | the Windows 2000 days.
       | 
       | Combine it with a for loop and you could generously message
       | everyone on the LAN with little effort.
       | 
       | There's a reason why everyone around me turned off the net
       | service after a while...
        
         | Zach_the_Lizard wrote:
         | I did something like this, also on Windows 2000, when I was in
         | high school. It definitely surprised some teachers....
         | 
         | I also discovered that our student IDs and PINs were based on
         | our birthdays, though I was not creative enough to come up with
         | an amusing use of student logins.
        
       | c7b wrote:
       | Lots of memories, very similar experiences. Fun detail: net send
       | * only broadcasts to machines in the same working group, and
       | since we had classes where each student had their own machine and
       | each class its own group, we could actually use it to broadcast
       | messages to our class, and no one else. We also gave self-chosen
       | names to our machines and used net send as a reasonably practical
       | live chat system during classes.
       | 
       | I also told a friend in another school about the command, and
       | their attempt also ended up sending a message to every machine in
       | a district with over a dozen schools. We knew it would go to the
       | whole school based on the group settings, we were still surprised
       | that it went to other schools as well (still haven't really
       | figured out how that worked). Luckily for them, nothing got
       | disabled, and they kept using net send as a bilateral chat system
       | happily ever after :)
        
       | woodruffw wrote:
       | Very funny! I guess is this more of a universal (tech) experience
       | than I had realized: my friends and I spent a lot of time in high
       | school griefing each other with `net send` (and the other `net`)
       | commands.
       | 
       | My memory is fuzzy at this point, but I vaguely recall being able
       | to change others' desktop backgrounds with a remote client. That
       | produced a lot of entertainment value.
        
         | cramjabsyn wrote:
         | A classic at my high school was taking a screen shot of the
         | desktop with icons, setting it as the desktop background, then
         | hiding all the desktop icons.
         | 
         | Bonus points if you could get the teachers machine
        
           | augusto-moura wrote:
           | I rotated the screenshot to be upside down, set it as a
           | background and then rotated the whole screen on Display
           | settings. So that the background would be on the correct
           | orientation but the mouse cursor and everything would be
           | reversed.
           | 
           | Good times :D
        
         | tinco wrote:
         | Yeah, we played around with net send as well, I'm pretty sure
         | you could also shut down other computers with either a net
         | command, or with the shutdown command itself.
         | 
         | We found a way to circumvent the way they prevented third party
         | apps from running and spent hours just playing AoE2 in the
         | "study" hall.
        
       | gavanwilhite wrote:
       | Read to the end!
        
         | dylan604 wrote:
         | my page didn't load the images (or whatever) in any kind of
         | timely manner, so i bailed on it before they loaded. was there
         | more than just the one pop-up?
        
           | zamfi wrote:
           | Pretty sure there aren't images, and you received, but were
           | unimpressed, by the outcome.
        
             | dylan604 wrote:
             | ultimately, this is what I thought might have happened.
             | Reading it on a desktop had enough space that the down
             | arrows were probably meant to indicate scroll on mobile,
             | but showed all at once on the desktop experience. However,
             | with all of the blocking that I have sometimes causes
             | render/layout issues when people embed things, so I
             | naturally just assumed something wasn't loading vs lame
             | layout tricks
        
       | PM_me_your_math wrote:
       | I think we've all done this to various effect. I made every
       | computer (hundreds, maybe over 1000 on the domain) on campus go
       | BEEP simultaneously. I almost didn't press enter, but I'm glad I
       | did. When I heard the ubiquitous beep, the yelps from startled
       | students in the rooms next door, and the sound of chairs as
       | people jumped, I about lost it. I had tears coming out of my
       | eyes. They never did figure out who did it.
        
       | dylan604 wrote:
       | we used to do similar with the Mac's ability to speak using the
       | command 'say'. we'd ssh into a computer we knew someone to be
       | sitting and have it 'say' something while using their name. at
       | least, until one day, the 'say' app was not longer available!
        
         | donatj wrote:
         | I worked in an office in the early 2000s that was PC's but we
         | had a single shared Mac workstation we'd use for tasks like
         | testing things in Safari. I sat right next to this workstation
         | and every time someone would sit there I would ssh in and use
         | `say` to make it say strange things like "help, I'm stuck in
         | the computer". It was one of those green G3 towers and it would
         | come kind of creepily out of it's internal speaker.
         | 
         | No one knew who was doing it until one day my friend was using
         | it and I made too much of an inside joke that gave it away.
        
         | krazydad wrote:
         | And if you used the -v option to set the voice to "whisper", it
         | was super creepy. say -v whisper "Get out of the house"
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | Were you home schooled? ;-)
           | 
           | Saying that in a school lab wouldn't make much sense
        
           | cuttysnark wrote:
           | say -v cellos "droid"
           | 
           | Pretty sure this is how they generated the sound that was
           | used for those commercials once upon a time.
        
         | msarnoff wrote:
         | Us too. And if the sound was off, we could just turn up the
         | volume with `osascript` commands!
        
           | dylan604 wrote:
           | Luckily, the internal speaker on the Macs were decent enough
           | so you could do this even if there were no speakers
           | connected.
           | 
           | By designating the voice, you could even have multiple
           | "people" talking to the user. It got annoying quite quickly
           | to be on the receiving end
        
       | jamal-kumar wrote:
       | We used to do this in high school all the time.
       | 
       | The other thing we did was access network shares which you could
       | see, but if you tried clicking them in explorer they'd say
       | "access denied". The administrator apparently didn't lock things
       | down very hard so a two-line .bat file:                 @echo off
       | net use Z: \\administrators
       | 
       | Would get us access to all sorts of crazy stuff.
        
         | budafish wrote:
         | also                   @net use Z: \\administrators
         | 
         | Would achieve the same effect :)
        
         | grubbs wrote:
         | We used to run executable versions of Quake and Tribes off the
         | Administrative share. No need to install. Just run .exe and it
         | threw you into the LAN game.
        
           | jamal-kumar wrote:
           | Our computers weren't that high spec but we did the same with
           | scorched earth.
           | 
           | There was also evidence someone else found this before us
           | because they had filled this one directory with viruses that
           | had extremely obvious .jpg.exe extensions and basically
           | various thirst trap stuff for creepy teachers filling the
           | rest of the filename to click on it. I think I remember
           | access to all of this was lost when this one kid was dumb
           | enough to actually click something in there and he got blamed
           | for it and expelled, which was pretty funny.
        
       | dangero wrote:
       | When I was in college I realized that they hadn't disabled net
       | send with wildcards on the CS computer network. We all had
       | individual logins.
       | 
       | One day I walk into my lab class and see that a poor soul forgot
       | to logout of his session. I'm sitting with my lab group and
       | explain this "net send *" macro that would send a message to
       | every single account on the system.
       | 
       | Another person in my group says "I'll do it." He types it in and
       | presses enter.
       | 
       | We log out of the account, then log into one of our accounts, see
       | the message, laugh and move on.
       | 
       | The next week, I get to my lab and this kid walks in and says to
       | my lab group member sitting in front of the computer "Can I speak
       | to you outside?"
       | 
       | He goes outside and we think nothing of it, but then I hear my
       | lab partner outside the door say in a raised tone "Look, I have
       | no idea what you're talking about! Goodbye!" and he comes
       | storming back in.
       | 
       | This lab partner was absent the week before and didn't know what
       | had transpired. We ask, "What did that guy want?" He says, "Some
       | BS about how he thinks I sent a message through his account to
       | everyone on the network because he forgot to logout last week and
       | now he's in trouble with the CS department because they think he
       | did it."
       | 
       | Our jaws dropped and I think if he had spoken to anyone else in
       | the group we probably would have laughed and he would have known
       | it was us right away. I still wonder how much trouble he got in
       | on our behalf for embarrassing the CS IT department. Didn't seem
       | like that big a deal to me.
        
       | pea wrote:
       | Oh man I remember doing the exact same thing in high school,
       | didn't think the wildcard would actually work. Overheard
       | concerned teachers talking about it and never fessed up until
       | now!
        
       | ilyt wrote:
       | Ah, yes, back where network security was an oxymoron
        
       | ocdtrekkie wrote:
       | Congrats on topping HN with your blog's first post, lol.
       | 
       | This is something I actually _worry_ about future generations
       | missing. My core love of computers came from being able to tamper
       | with them. Being able to poke around in the operating system,
       | figure out how to do neat things, etc.
       | 
       | Today, students are given either an iPad or a Chromebook, and
       | generally locked into using some horrific privacy nightmare like
       | Gmail, and have very little ability to actually experiment with
       | computers.
       | 
       | I suppose this means we have better security, but people like me
       | born more recently may not end up in the field because of it.
        
       | nirav72 wrote:
       | Oh this brings back memories. I remember before NAT routers
       | became a common thing for home broadband connections and when
       | most households only had one PC - my local DSL provider was
       | assigning IP addresses from one block of IPs in an area. So
       | browsing through other people's shared directories on windows NT
       | or 98 machines was trivial. So many people had open shares.
       | Including sending out NET SEND messages.
        
       | dgfitz wrote:
       | I wrote a net send script in high school that sent a pop up to
       | every computer in the building... 500 times. Someone snitched on
       | me. I regret nothing.
        
       | alxjsn wrote:
       | This brings back good memories from High School. Here's a bunch
       | of things we used to do:
       | 
       | 1. Set fun messages on all the HP Printers:
       | https://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/jetdirecthack
       | 
       | 2. Bypass firewall restrictions by setting http:// to https://
       | (later had to resort to SSH tunneling using Putty). Got me banned
       | from our library for a month when I was on Facebook and a teacher
       | passed by.
       | 
       | 3. Our student directory set a cookie to a 6 digit identifier in
       | the cookie. We could access any student's grades and details by
       | just setting it to another ID, or looking at their lunch card.
       | 
       | 4. During finals we wouldn't be allowed to see our grades until
       | after all the finals were submitted into our grading portal.
       | Somebody picked up on the fact that if you stop the page load
       | before it finished that the grades would show up. Using JS to
       | block our grades after they loaded didn't stop even the least
       | technical people.
       | 
       | 5. Some of our labs had monitoring software to make sure we were
       | working. We could just kill that process and they would lose
       | access.
       | 
       | 6. Invert MacOS screen colors using Control + Option + Command +
       | 8. Teachers didn't know how to recover from this and would resort
       | to restoring the entire Mac.
       | 
       | 7. CTRL + ALT + Down to flip the Windows screens. Again caused
       | issues for a lot of people who didn't know this shortcut.
       | 
       | What a bunch of troublemakers we were...
        
         | metadat wrote:
         | Heh, you've reminded me.
         | 
         | I used to go to Fry's Electronics computer department and
         | screenshot the desktop with clickable stuff, then proceed to
         | set that as the background and close all the windows and remove
         | or relocate all desktop items. To an end user, it then seemed
         | like the computer was frozen or otherwise fubar'd. Rinsed and
         | repeated that for a whole row of machines a few times. It was
         | entertaining to then watch people approach and try to interact
         | with them.
         | 
         | I know this is weak kung-fu compared to many stories in this
         | thread is but it was a good time! (at the time..)
        
           | dilap wrote:
           | I still occasionally accidentally do this to myself when I
           | come back to my phone looking at a screenshot in full-
           | screen... It's almost a sensation of vertigo when you realize
           | what's going on and your brain readjusts.
        
         | somat wrote:
         | With regards to point 6. invert macos screen colors. What is
         | the use case for this? and more importantly why bind it to a
         | key combo?
         | 
         | For example a left-right flipped screen could be needed in a
         | rear projection setup, but I am at a loss for what you would
         | use inverted colors for.
        
         | 13of40 wrote:
         | One of the labs in my highschool was for typing training, and
         | it had something like 50 barebones PCs in it. Every day you'd
         | sit down at a random machine, which booted from a 5.25" floppy.
         | The autoexec.bat on the floppy let you log into the network
         | where it ran another batch file from your user directory there.
         | 
         | As an experiment I wrote a piece of batch script that would
         | append itself to both the network and local batch files if it
         | wasn't already there (i.e if it was on the disk it would copy
         | itself into your network account and visa versa), put it on one
         | random computer, then forgot about it for a few days.
         | 
         | By the time I got around to checking again it had propagated
         | itself to every computer in the lab and presumably every
         | network account that had logged in during that time.
        
       | ceautery wrote:
       | That's pretty funny. I worked at a unix shop and occasionally got
       | a kick out of things like the following, if I ever saw one of my
       | buddies logged in at the same time as me:
       | 
       | echo 'Terminal overheating, please blow on screen' > /dev/tty0
        
       | jimt1234 wrote:
       | I was working a tech conference, probably around 2001, with about
       | a hundred PCs networked together. A colleague of mine intended to
       | send a simple "net send" message to only my workstation, just as
       | a joke. He messed up the syntax and the popup appeared on every
       | PC in the conference, including the giant screen in the main
       | conference hall. The message: _" Fuck you"_. He was fired the
       | next day.
       | 
       | (Don't feel bad for the guy. Getting fired was the best thing
       | that ever happened to him. He was a weekend "action photographer"
       | [surf/skate/snowboard/...] who decided to go full-time after
       | losing his job. He rode the early-2000s "extreme sports" wave and
       | ended up being quite successful, and more importantly, much
       | happier.)
        
         | msla wrote:
         | https://everything2.com/title/Jordan+K.+Hubbard
         | 
         | > Long before FreeBSD, Jordan K. Hubbard earned a spot in
         | Internet history in 1987 when he accidentally attempted to
         | broadcast an rwall message to every machine on the Internet. He
         | stopped it once he realized what was happening, but not before
         | he & the other UC Berkeley network administrators were flooded
         | with complaints.
        
           | smoldesu wrote:
           | Got in trouble for something similar in middle school,
           | actually. I would bike over to the high school for my
           | robotics club, and some of the older members had written a
           | privilege escalation script for the Windows machines. So, I
           | brought it on a flash drive to my technology class the next
           | day and ran 'shutdown -i' with admin privs. Being young and
           | stupid, I broadcast a reboot message to all ~700 machines
           | connected on the network, and got a fairly thorough talking-
           | to...
        
             | ilyt wrote:
             | I played with network sniffer on home network (that sent
             | funny packets to switch to make it MITM traffic thru my
             | machine). Except it didn't work/I fucked something up and
             | all traffic went thru my machine.
             | 
             | They couldn't prove it's me so teacher just blanked banned
             | anyone in the library (our class with few of my friends
             | were on the 4 machines in the library) from using machines
             | there for few months.
             | 
             | Then when we got new shiny machines for computer lab I was
             | bored when the teacher was explaining something so I
             | started guessing admin password. It was zaqwsx
        
               | azinman2 wrote:
               | When I was studying abroad, I noticed that the Ethernet
               | at my Uni dorm seemed to have a lot of cross traffic. So
               | I ran a simple password sniffer, not knowing it also
               | effectively turned my computer into a giant switch. Soon
               | after I came home to my flat mates saying "the IT
               | department came and kicked you off the internet." I
               | thought it was a joke, until I saw I wasn't on. I called
               | and pled dumb, saying I had installed an "internet
               | accelerator" and they believed me and restored access.
               | 
               | FWIW I wasn't actually going to do anything with the
               | passwords (of which I accumulated many!). It was mostly
               | just a fun nerd flex with no bad intentions.
        
         | HeckFeck wrote:
         | [dead]
        
         | bluesign wrote:
         | Similar story; bet with a friend to hack and change his
         | password at university. Accidentally changing all user
         | passwords to some profanity including his name, luckily didn't
         | get caught.
        
       | kelseyfrog wrote:
       | This brings back memories of sneaking a C compiler onto a
       | classroom computer in high school and writing a program which
       | issued ten thousand net-sends to a bully's computer. IIRC, the
       | next send window popped over every other window and it
       | effectively denial of service attacked his UI. The options where
       | to click thousands of times or restart the computer. Well, it was
       | pretty easy to rerun the program once his was restarted and let's
       | just say he didn't take it well. It was a blessing that net send
       | doesn't show sender information.
        
       | spogbiper wrote:
       | many years ago I had a fortran class where our lab was a bunch of
       | x-terminals connected to some old SunOS Sparc thing. all of the
       | user sessions used ttys that for some reason were world
       | writeable. anyone who has had the misfortune of writing fortran
       | code will remember that its very column dependent. each line of
       | code has to have certain elements lined up in the proper columns.
       | 
       | so, of course I wrote a little script that wrote a single space
       | character to a random tty every so often. the character wouldn't
       | be in the users source code but since it was shown on their
       | terminal they would generally hit backspace to "fix" it which
       | made the text on screen line up but misaligned the columns in
       | their actual source file.
       | 
       | very few people got their assignments to compile
        
         | mrlonglong wrote:
         | I like this very much, it's suitably evil.
        
       | mrlonglong wrote:
       | I had fun with fork bombs on the VAX/VMS machine at uni. Till the
       | day it ran too quickly for me to stop it. Walk of shame to the
       | CSO to own up and for them to terminate the run-away processes on
       | the Sysop console.
        
       | nickt wrote:
       | Reminds me of the day, obviously some years earlier, that a few
       | of us aged about 10 years discovered *NOTIFY and even better,
       | *REMOTE on the Econet connected Beebs we had at school.
       | 
       | Oh, here's the manual (PDF), which we never read:
       | http://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/docs/Acorn/Manual...
        
       | xingped wrote:
       | Haha, I got a great laugh at the end-of-article scroll. Well
       | played!
        
       | dhammack wrote:
       | Had a similar experience in middle school. We started initially
       | doing net-send to specific users and having played around a
       | little bit with batch files/command prompt before I tried net
       | send *.
       | 
       | Well the entire county was on the same network. All computers in
       | the school district received my message. Fortunately the message
       | was just "hi", and I think it was only sent once.
       | 
       | Like the OP, in retrospect I saw that the message shows the
       | sending computer+user. Since we had student-specific logins it
       | didn't take long before I was tracked down and reprimanded. I
       | think they even told my parents about it and were threatening
       | suspension etc. But at a certain point it became kind of obvious
       | that the network/configuration was more at fault than a curious
       | kid. So I got off with a stern warning and narrowly avoided a
       | life of crime.
        
       | mastax wrote:
       | I have very similar memories from my time in the computer labs at
       | school. We also discovered `net send` and got it disabled a few
       | weeks later.
       | 
       | The computers were really locked down to the point that they were
       | annoying to use. Right click was disabled (at least in windows
       | explorer?), among other things. One of my acquaintances wrote a
       | program in visual basic called "Firstname Lastname's Computer
       | Fixer" that was somehow able to disable many of the restrictions
       | on the computer. I remember it was a pretty large window with
       | lots of buttons though I can't remember what they were all
       | supposed to do. After passing it around for a few months it was
       | deleted from all our home folders and I found out that he was
       | suspended for a week and banned from using computers. The
       | computers got even more locked down. Oh well.
        
       | atkailash wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | CamelCaseName wrote:
       | Oh goodness, what an awesome end. I love this article so much.
        
       | PrivateButts wrote:
       | When our school started to provide network shares to students,
       | they were pretty lax on security. I figured out that everyone's
       | share was publicly read/writable, and the network path was pretty
       | easy to guess. Whenever someone would annoy me I would replace a
       | project file they were working on with some matter of nuisance
       | program, like a zip bomb or a script that just kept opening word
       | until the system ran out of ram. I'm surprised I never got
       | caught, because I was too much of an idiot to properly cover my
       | tracks.
        
       | vsviridov wrote:
       | I did this prank, only it was more elaborate. We were in the lab,
       | playing around with Windows NT (so all machines were set up with
       | the same Administrator password), and one thing you could do, is
       | to get a remote telnet, and `net send` to yourself, but on the
       | remote machine, so the origin would basically be that person's
       | machine, which makes it impossible to detect the actual sender.
       | 
       | Once the person was sufficiently annoyed, he disabled the
       | Messenger service, but again, because all Administrator passwords
       | were same, it was possible to just connect to the Services snap-
       | in in Microsoft Management Console, and re-enable it, send the
       | message, and immediately disable it, so once that person went to
       | check - the service would be off...
       | 
       | In retrospect it was somewhat cruel, but oh well...
        
       | phamilton wrote:
       | I put `net send * Seniors2005` 200 times in a OPEN_ME.bat file
       | and put it in our shared folder on the school network (it was
       | buried deep in the Art department directories and was full of
       | emulators and music and stuff.
       | 
       | My friend saw it and said "What's this?" I told him not to open
       | it and of course he did so immediately.
       | 
       | This was a K-12 school, so every single lab, every single
       | teachers computer all the way down to kindergarten got it.
       | 
       | When IT came to my friends machine, I fessed up and got in
       | trouble. Banned from school computers for the rest of the year,
       | all my teachers got a notice about it and I had more than one
       | awkward conversation about what I did.
        
       | naikrovek wrote:
       | I changed the environment variable PROMPT in DOS to "Enter
       | Password:" once, confusing my teacher endlessly.
        
       | try_the_bass wrote:
       | I remember doing this during one of my first years of college. I
       | would usually finish the lab assignments early, so I would poke
       | around the computers and see what I could get into. I eventually
       | discovered `net send` on the cli, and read through the help to
       | discover that you could broadcast with a wildcard.
       | 
       | So, I promptly ran `net send * All your base are belong to us`.
       | 
       | The immediate result was giggles from all around the computer
       | lab. As soon as I realized I had sent it to every computer in the
       | lab, I realized I had no idea what _other_ computers I had sent
       | it to. I decided my best course of action was to log out of the
       | machine and switch to another one.
       | 
       | About 5 minutes later, a couple people came into the lab, going
       | straight to the machine I had sent the message from. They looked
       | around, asked the room if anyone knew who was using the machine,
       | got a bunch of noncommittal shrugs, shrugged themselves, and
       | left.
       | 
       | A couple weeks later, the Messenger service was disabled across
       | the campus. I found out from someone that the message had popped
       | up on every machine on campus, interrupting presentations and
       | leading to some slight confusion on the part of teachers all
       | over.
        
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