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       Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple timezones
        
       Hi HN! I designed this Pole Clock to be a helpful tool for people
       like myself who often struggle with managing their sense of time.
       I found that analog clocks are generally easier to read and
       understand than digital ones, however I find the fact that every
       day is broken into two 12-hour rotations unintuitive. A single
       24-hour rotation makes it easier to grasp where in the day you are,
       the bottom half representing night and the top half representing
       day.  Additionally, because the clock displays 24 hours, you can
       add extra hour hands on the clock for other time zones. This is
       especially useful if you work remotely or have friends and
       colleagues in different time zones. At a single glance, see where
       they are in their days and energy levels!  I hope you'll give the
       Pole Clock a try and find that it helps you better understand and
       manage your sense of time.
        
       Author : PascalPixel
       Score  : 286 points
       Date   : 2022-12-31 13:40 UTC (9 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (poleclock.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (poleclock.com)
        
       | bookofjoe wrote:
       | Put this on YouTube: video can be easily linked/embedded
        
       | throw0101c wrote:
       | If anyone wants to wear a 24-hour dial on their wrist:
       | 
       | * https://romeoswatches.com/the-5-best-24-hours-watches-buying...
       | 
       | * https://svalbard.watch/pages/Svalbard_24-hour_watches.html
       | 
       | * https://vintagewatchinc.com/24-hour-watch/
       | 
       | * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_analog_dial#Watches
        
         | dhbanes wrote:
         | Or any GMT watch.
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | Wowzers I love these one-hand 'slow' watches!
         | https://svalbard.watch/pages/Svalbard_24-hour_watches.html
         | 
         | I hope I can get Pole Clock on Apple Watch, wish they allowed
         | custom watch faces!
        
           | FredPret wrote:
           | There are two options - the Solar and World Time faces are
           | 24h
        
           | amelius wrote:
           | > Apple Watch, wish they allowed custom watch faces!
           | 
           | Seriously? Apple does not allow this?
        
             | zimpenfish wrote:
             | I guess it depends what you mean by "custom watch faces"
             | but I've got 12[1] things that show different variations of
             | clocks and widgets installed on my Watch and the Watch app
             | offers a few more[2].
             | 
             | [1] Activity Digital, Solar Graph, Modular, Infograph,
             | Modular Compact, Liquid Metal, Solar Dial, Unity Lights,
             | Gradient, Pride Woven, World Time, Pride Threads.
             | 
             | [2] https://imgur.com/a/A9u4EYr
        
             | userbinator wrote:
             | It shouldn't be surprising, that's very typical of Apple.
        
         | RedShift1 wrote:
         | I'm liking the Svalbard ones, but can't find a European
         | retailer?
        
         | ruph123 wrote:
         | And a good brand for single-hand watches:
         | http://meistersinger.com/
        
       | impish9208 wrote:
       | This is neat. I was wondering if the world map in the background
       | could be rotated so that the city/timezone hands could (roughly)
       | point to their respective locations. For instance, if you had the
       | NYC and LAX hands, then the North American continent could be
       | positioned between them with the former to the right and the
       | latter to the left.
        
       | davchana wrote:
       | Bug: All other cities use the Phrase I type in the box. I.E.for
       | NYC, If I type JFK, it shows JFK on its hour hand. But the local
       | time always shows LOS for me even if I type SFO. It should show
       | SFO, as typed.
        
       | diimdeep wrote:
       | Blur behind menu kills integrated GPU.
        
       | antcas wrote:
       | Slick design. Love that it doesn't try to do a million things. I
       | think this would be really nice as a smartwatch face or an iPhone
       | widget.
        
         | HL33tibCe7 wrote:
         | Yes. This is a very "Apple" design (and that is high praise).
        
       | shawkinaw wrote:
       | Looks a lot like the app World Clock Pro I've used for a while:
       | https://worldclock.pro/mobile/
        
         | btbuildem wrote:
         | And that one seems to handle the minute hand question by
         | omitting the minute hand altogether
        
       | 88stacks wrote:
       | I wish I could have this on my Apple Watch, but Apple does not
       | allow us to make our own watch faces.
        
       | petodo wrote:
       | the city with picture arm is not readable on mobile, you need to
       | zoom to know the actual city, it would be better to just use name
       | instead of such small picture
       | 
       | also quite odd default choice of cities, so I have own European
       | city, London, then 3 East Asia cities and 2 US cities with
       | nothing between central Europe and Thailand, no middle east, no
       | India
       | 
       | it would be also better if every other hour would be bigger so
       | it's easier to figure out minutes, with all of them having same
       | size it's confusing and more difficult to read as if they had
       | highlighted positions of original hours
        
         | pimlottc wrote:
         | It's not very legible on a laptop either. Based on the
         | orientation, I thought it was one of those old-timey pointing
         | hand symbols [0].
         | 
         | 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manicule
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | Enticing you to configure the timezones yourself, ehhh? Ehhh?
         | _wiggles eyebrows_
        
       | a_d wrote:
       | Love this, PascalPixel!
       | 
       | Hope you are well my friend. I smiled at this project and then
       | saw it was made by you -- it's such a beautiful project that only
       | you could have made :).
       | 
       | Great idea and execution.
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | <3
        
       | IIAOPSW wrote:
       | I've learned far to often that the international date line is not
       | just tinder for expats. Can you put something to indicate the
       | date on the timezones. Something just like your day/night
       | indicator which tells me that on one side of the line is December
       | 31 2022 and on the other side is January 1 2023.
        
       | nairboon wrote:
       | You might want to rethink the call to vote on HN
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#ring
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | Thank you! Just removed the word 'voting' from the link to this
         | post
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | russellbeattie wrote:
       | My OCD can't take the alignment of the second hand to the
       | numbers.
       | 
       | The "bottom half" should be dynamic based on current
       | sunrise/sunset data.
       | 
       | Better yet, let me decide my own waking hours and put that bit on
       | the bottom.
       | 
       | Might as well make the favicon dynamic as well.
        
       | nsainaney wrote:
       | Shouldn't there be two minute hands if you add LA and India (PST
       | and IST)? The minutes are offset by 30 mins in this scenario.
        
         | spiffytech wrote:
         | It appears the minute hand only reflects local time.
         | 
         | When I add time zones with fractional-hour offsets, the hour
         | hand for those zones is at the appropriate angle within the
         | indicated hour.
        
         | mikrl wrote:
         | Also, Newfoundland and Labrador (GMT -3:30)
        
           | askvictor wrote:
           | And South Australia
        
         | gumby wrote:
         | You can see this by the position of the hour hands. The minute
         | hand is "just" a convenience.
        
         | dfee wrote:
         | Came here looking for a comment suggesting these discrepancies.
         | I was not disappointed.
         | 
         | See also: "Falsehoods programmers believe about time"
         | 
         | https://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-program...
        
         | psnehanshu wrote:
         | Another one for Nepal, they have an offset of 45 mins.
        
       | mixcocam wrote:
       | Basic yet super powerful.
        
       | abdullahkhalids wrote:
       | How can I tell at a glance which timezones have the same date,
       | and which ones are a day behind or ahead?
       | 
       | For instance, I can't tell if Tokyo has the same date as NYC or
       | not.
        
         | oars wrote:
         | The clock shows 24 hours, and we know that NYC always behind
         | Tokyo; you can just tell this from the arms of the clock.
         | 
         | If it's 7:30am now for Tokyo and NYC is showing 5:30pm, we know
         | that Tokyo is obviously a day ahead.
        
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       | divbzero wrote:
       | Two ideas to consider adding to this cool concept:
       | 
       | 1. Could there be an option to place 00:00 at the top instead of
       | the bottom? It looks like both positions have been used for
       | analog 24 hour clocks.
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_analog_dial
       | 
       | 2. Could there be an option to set the background to be a polar-
       | projected world map ( _e.g._ United Nations emblem) that rotates
       | to align with the turning of the hour hands?
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuthal_equidistant_projecti...
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | Great ideas! I've added both! Find them in Settings! Enjoy!
        
           | slobotron wrote:
           | Seems that the World Map is "fixed" and does not rotate to
           | keep it aligned with the hands (expectation is that New York
           | hand should roughly point to New York on the map)?
        
           | davchana wrote:
           | Could you add the share link? So that if I share the URL with
           | a friend or family,they get exactly my configuration of
           | cities from URL. Maybe the cities can be embedded in URL as
           | GET parameters.
        
         | krisoft wrote:
         | For the second one, that is what is done by this xkcd:
         | https://xkcd.com/1335/
         | 
         | But unfortunately they have noon at the top.
        
         | 0x0203 wrote:
         | Another consideration might be to switch 24 to 0 or 00. I've
         | seen a lot of 24 hour clocks that use 24 and I'm not sure why
         | this ever happened since there is no time in hour 24. 12:15
         | AM/PM is a real thing for a 12-hour clock, but 24:15 isn't, as
         | far as I'm aware. Unless some people consider that to be the
         | very first hour of the day, but that seems like it would invite
         | more confusion.
        
         | Svip wrote:
         | > 1. Could there be an option to place 00:00 at the top instead
         | of the bottom?
         | 
         | I wear a 24 hour analogue dial wrist watch, with 24 on top.
         | I'll admit, I sometimes wish I had chosen 12 on top, since it's
         | more naturally to look at the watch during the day, and less so
         | during the night. Since it more naturally follows - on quick
         | visual inspection - what it would look like on a normal 12 hour
         | analogue dial.
        
           | stevekemp wrote:
           | There are quite of a few of those about, I have a Vostok 24
           | hour watch and it's a nice conversational piece.
           | 
           | Rateka also makes a well-regarded 24 hour dial.
           | 
           | Both easily available for EUR100 or so, though only the
           | vostoks are automatic.
        
           | giardia wrote:
           | Sounds cool, would you care to link the make/model?
        
             | Svip wrote:
             | It was the only distributor of 24 hour analogue wrist
             | watches I could find, where the prices were reasonable, is
             | called AAA Watch Club.[0]
             | 
             | Mine is specifically from the Military Time Collection,
             | called Military Dress, I believe.[1] Unfortunately, the
             | specific model appeared to be sold out right now.
             | 
             | 0 - https://www.aaawatchclub.com/
             | 
             | 1 - https://www.aaawatchclub.com/military-time-
             | watches_5to6.html...
        
               | giardia wrote:
               | Thanks
        
       | hakcermani wrote:
       | Congratulations on this and pretty cool design. I just got the
       | map:clock for ios which shows a map with different city times.
       | One feature in that is to be able to do what if .. a slider to
       | modify the times and see the time at different locations. A
       | slider or rotary dial to change the times would be a good feature
       | for planning. Bookmarked ur clock !
       | 
       | Feature requests if i may pls ! 1) Adjust the time with a slider
       | or dial 2) Put the second hand outside the dial 3) Same for min
       | hand or show hide the min hand -Merci!
        
       | adg001 wrote:
       | Congrats, this is so handy (pun intended)! :-)
       | 
       | Please consider adding a custom watch face to the Coros watches
       | such as the Vertix.
       | 
       | Also consider that there are timezones offset by 30 mins.
        
       | layer8 wrote:
       | Three suggestions:
       | 
       | - Let users switch the primary time zone by clicking/tapping on
       | an hour hand.
       | 
       | - Display the true day/night line for the current time zone.
       | 
       | - Visualize the different dates (angle between the date line and
       | 24 hours). Maybe color the hour hands differently when he date
       | differs.
        
       | mauskin wrote:
       | You could make it lighter by removing even hour marks, like so
       | https://codepen.io/kirillmyshkin/full/dyRQOda
        
       | bramblerose wrote:
       | A suggestion: support merging timezones into a single hand.
       | Currently, if two timezones overlap, only the first TZ is shown.
       | However, one might want two hands as the DST shifts may be
       | different.
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | Great idea! I could combine the names on a single hand
        
       | sails wrote:
       | Minute hand covers the hour hand which seems like it could be
       | improved. I added a country and I couldn't see if it had been
       | added because it was under the minute hand.
        
       | habibur wrote:
       | Excellent. You can see at a glance which of the cities are in
       | right now in day light and where's night.
        
         | Aardwolf wrote:
         | Not precisely though since in different places, the sun goes
         | up/under at different times.
         | 
         | An interesting thing could be if the small hands had a color
         | that indicates the night/day/dusk/dawn
        
           | michaelt wrote:
           | If you want a single-view visualisation of sunrise/sunset
           | across the globe, there's always this design:
           | https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunearth.html
        
           | walthamstow wrote:
           | I've always found it quite weird (though obviously
           | convenient) that Warsaw and Madrid are on the same time zone
        
             | Symbiote wrote:
             | They are not. It is 17:25 in Warsaw now, 16:25 in Dublin.
        
               | walthamstow wrote:
               | Oops, not sure what city I was thinking of when I wrote
               | Dublin
               | 
               | My point is that CET feels rather wide to me, so I guess
               | substitute for Sevilla or Madrid
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | Right? A 'good enough' solution / update to the regular clock,
         | I felt! :)
        
       | xwowsersx wrote:
       | Very nice. I've wanted something simple like this. I work with
       | team distributed all over the globe and often end up googling
       | "time in Minsk", for example. This is a really clever way of
       | combining all the times into a single clock.
        
       | rsapkf wrote:
       | Something similar (but simpler) I made for my personal use:
       | https://rsapkf.org/tz
        
         | shrubble wrote:
         | week of the year: 53/52 ... perhaps you meant it as a joke?
        
           | JonathonW wrote:
           | It's possible (with the ISO week calendar) to have a week 53-
           | on years where Jan 1 is on Thursday or Wednesday for leap
           | years.
           | 
           | 2022 was not such a year; there appears to be a bug here.
        
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       | Waterluvian wrote:
       | First thing I did was add Newfoundland and nope, it doesn't add
       | another minute hand.
       | 
       | Time zones are ridiculous, eh?
        
         | aaron695 wrote:
         | [dead]
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | Haha, yes! But Newfoundland's hour hand should be offset a
         | little bit!
        
           | laserlight wrote:
           | How about an option to show the digital clock on the hand.
           | Engineer in me is not satisfied with lack of precision.
        
           | Waterluvian wrote:
           | Ah yes that too. A classic edge case to add frustrating
           | complexity to your implementation! :)
        
             | PascalPixel wrote:
             | Always fun! It does the same for every other offset
             | timezone, and seen _from_ that timezone, everything else is
             | slightly offset :)
        
       | userbinator wrote:
       | Before visiting the site, I thought this was a physical device.
        
       | fildon wrote:
       | Huh, I built a 24 hour clock as part of this mini project:
       | 
       | https://fildon.me/time-after-time/
       | 
       | Notably, after the initial page load I don't use any JS to update
       | the hand positions. It's entirely static SVG elements.
        
       | nonethewiser wrote:
       | Why not abbreviate New York as NY instead of New? Why also use a
       | statue of liberty emoji for eastern standard time instead of EST
       | or NY?
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | You can configure the name to display whatever you like :)
        
           | jsjohnst wrote:
           | Actually, you can't if you are in that time zone. If I have
           | my local device in a different time zone, then yes, I can set
           | the name.
        
         | JEDI-HACKER wrote:
         | Why all the why questions?
        
       | verdenti wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | ComputerGuru wrote:
       | Really cool idea.
       | 
       | The Statue of Liberty glyph for NYC is _extremely_ difficult to
       | make out (on mobile, at any rate). I would much prefer NYC. Also
       | not sure why NYC has to be special, I would have thought UTC
       | would the special one.
        
         | codetrotter wrote:
         | Yeah me too struggled a lot to make out that it was the Statue
         | of Liberty
        
         | HL33tibCe7 wrote:
         | +1, just use NYC please
        
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       | gus_massa wrote:
       | It would be nice to have a permalink to a version with my
       | customized list of time zones. I imagine it would be useful to
       | send it for recurring meetings with the same set of persons.
        
         | ydant wrote:
         | I tend to use worldtimebuddy.com as a very practical way of
         | representing timezones when scheduling things.
         | 
         | As cool as this pole clock is, it's not as useful to my mind as
         | the more linear representation worldtimebuddy.com uses.
        
       | oliverdunk wrote:
       | Very cool! Similar idea: https://www.teamlab.art/w/clock/
        
       | tensorturtle wrote:
       | This is great! Now I wish there was a wristwatch (Apple Watch
       | face?) that could do this as well.
        
       | pcrh wrote:
       | So intuitive and simple, it's hard to imagine this representation
       | of time zones hasn't been conceived of before. But perhaps that's
       | the definition of "genius"...
        
       | lifthrasiir wrote:
       | Not sure if this was an inspiration, but xkcd has a neat clock:
       | https://xkcd.com/now/
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | No! But this is fabulous! I'd love to add it to the README
        
       | codegladiator wrote:
       | Nice, very pleasing
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | Glad you like it!
        
       | cormullion wrote:
       | Get it added to the collection at
       | https://24hourtime.info/2022/07/13/the-sun-clock/
        
       | bondolo wrote:
       | I like it and am interested to see how this evolves. I would love
       | it to replace the simple clock on my iPhone screen.
       | 
       | For my own purposes I would like to see accurate day/night line
       | that moves with the map.
        
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       | laserlight wrote:
       | It was a mindfuck to see AM/PM clock when the title read 24h.
        
         | PascalPixel wrote:
         | I've changed it back to 24h by default just now
         | 
         | You can change between AM/PM and 24h in the 'Configure
         | Timezones' menu!
        
         | johnchristopher wrote:
         | Ah ! So, that's what ticked me off :D.
        
           | PascalPixel wrote:
           | Oops! It's 24h again now!
        
       | johnchristopher wrote:
       | Cute ^^.
       | 
       | I see there's a Statue of Liberty icon for NY, it'd be nice to
       | have icons for other cities :).
        
         | Piko wrote:
         | You can change it yourself in the settings
        
       | ajb wrote:
       | Nice.
       | 
       | One thing that would be handy would be to encode the settings in
       | the URL. Then people can share a link to this with others who
       | need the same set of time zones (eg, colleagues) and have the
       | time zones already be set up.
        
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