[HN Gopher] Manage Like an Engineer ___________________________________________________________________ Manage Like an Engineer Author : wallflower Score : 70 points Date : 2023-01-11 14:58 UTC (1 days ago) (HTM) web link (ben.balter.com) (TXT) w3m dump (ben.balter.com) | marvin_3050 wrote: | Sounds like Jira to me | [deleted] | blowski wrote: | * * * | lavventura wrote: | Why not using Org mode files instead of Markdown files? | lloydatkinson wrote: | Because outside of the bubble not everyone knows or wants to | use emacs. Markdown is a lot more well used. | jsejcksn wrote: | Ben's continuous mantra of observability has resonated strongly | with me. I have learned so much more from researching and | reflecting on the indexed artifacts of others' public discourse | than from any ephemeral meeting. | ssgodderidge wrote: | Observability is highly underrated for management. The best | managers I've had have public calendars, so we can see what | they're spending their time. Priority is pretty clear when | management is spending time on something | twawaaay wrote: | > Asynchronous first | | Umm... as an engineer I know the ins and outs of async. | | The fact is that synchronous is so much more efficient when it is | practical. | | You can exchange mails with the other person for 3 weeks to get | details of something nailed or get the meeting room with a | whiteboard for 2 hours and get out with the complete solution | without wasting time typing all those emails. | | Asynchronous is for when you can't get that other person/persons | in the room and expect to get the thing done in reasonable time. | kerpotgh wrote: | Async is the most inefficient bullshit ever. | winphone1974 wrote: | This doesn't make any sense to me, a manager with a technical | background. I do use these tools... For their intended purpose. | The implication here is there are no functions in management | without a software development analog? | midiguy wrote: | I prefer engineering like a manager | e2e4 wrote: | :) | [deleted] | indymike wrote: | I think the author is talking about things like OKRs and other | management documents. | | Managers have Google Docs, Notion, SharePoint and all kinds of | other tools that do change tracking and management of these kinds | of things. Long before Git was created, these solutions existed | (track changes). Git does a horrible job with zipped up bags of | binary, xml, json, and the show changes in most corporate | document management systems are really better/easier for written | word. | chiggsy wrote: | So... there are no tools used for managing people that are not | used for managing software? | | Well, that is remarkably fortunate. | jiaaro wrote: | Yeah - It does seem like the author is trying to apply too many | lessons learned from managing computers and software to | managing people. | eftychis wrote: | To be fair the other approach of a lot of managers and | companies is to manage people as itemized resources -- and | not for the convenience. | | I think it would be positive of some mathematical or computer | knowledge was used, like "don't just throw more people at the | problem," "context switching cost" (and generally the whole | work scheduling field). | | But again "management" is not about people in most companies, | but about keeping the jobs of the higher ups. It might be | painful for all of us, but it is not like all managers don't | know how to improve things. | [deleted] ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-01-12 23:00 UTC)