[HN Gopher] Wakamai Fondue, the tool that answers the question "...
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Wakamai Fondue, the tool that answers the question "what can my
font do?"
Author : robin_reala
Score : 132 points
Date : 2023-01-13 09:12 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (wakamaifondue.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (wakamaifondue.com)
| svnpenn wrote:
| doesn't work:
|
| http://0x0.st/o70q.png
| avgcorrection wrote:
| Gimlet Variable Regular apparently doesn't support Norwegian
| Nynorsk. Literally unusable.
| sacrosancty wrote:
| Isn't that in 00A0-0137 which it says it supports? AE, O, A and
| lower case?
| avgcorrection wrote:
| Process of elimination: it only says that it supports
| Norwegian Bokmal. ;)
| afandian wrote:
| When I click the button it says "Internal error. Couldn't
| communicate with a helper application.". Mystery. Firefox on
| iPhone.
| bartvk wrote:
| Firefox on iPhone as well. Mine brings out the file picker. I
| copied a TTF font to iCloud Drive and could pick it on the
| iPhone.
|
| Firefox 108.1 from the App Store, iOS version 16.2.
| bee_rider wrote:
| In safari on iPhone, it brings up the weird iPhone document
| browser thingy when I hit the button. Does Firefox have access
| to that, on iOS?
| layer8 wrote:
| > weird iPhone document browser thingy
|
| It's a "Choose File" dialog, like from the "Browse" button of
| a file input. :)
| tomduncalf wrote:
| I did a bunch of work with extracting info from fonts for a site
| I built last year [1], a useful tool to know about if you want to
| do something like this yourself (e.g. automating extraction of
| data from fonts) is ttx [2] from the fonttools package (available
| for Python and also a CLI tool which can be brew installed),
| which can dump out all of the tables in the font (which is where
| all the information about the glyphs and variations etc. is
| stored) to XML. There's a lot of data (fonts are amazingly
| complex things with all the OpenType features, variable support
| [3] etc) and the structure takes some working out, but it's all
| in there!
|
| There's also opentype.js [4] which can do similar on the client
| side, I'm not sure if there's some info that you can only get
| from ttx or if opentype.js exposes all the same information off
| the top of my head.
|
| Finally, Fontforge [5] is an OSS font editor which can be useful
| for inspecting the glyphs in a font visually etc.
|
| [1] https://f37foundry.com
|
| [2] https://fonttools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ttx.html
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| [3] https://f37foundry.com/playground has some fun examples of
| what you can do creatively with variable fonts (best on desktop)
|
| [4] https://github.com/opentypejs/opentype.js
|
| [5] https://fontforge.org/en-US/
| DaviNunes wrote:
| Is there an open-source tool to get this info?
| tomduncalf wrote:
| See my other comment on here - briefly, ttx or opentype.js
| should do what you need programmatically or FontForge maybe for
| a GUI
| velcrovan wrote:
| I use this site a lot!
| [deleted]
| nyanpasu64 wrote:
| I tried uploading GentiumBookPlus-Regular.ttf from
| GentiumPlus-6.101.zip into the site on Firefox Mac, and the tab
| hung.
| bartvk wrote:
| Indeed, I get the bar at the top "This page is slowing down
| Firefox" with a button to stop it. If I don't do anything
| though (i.e. let it run), the result does appear within one
| minute.
| KMnO4 wrote:
| Very clever name. Read it out loud if it's not immediately
| obvious.
| [deleted]
| notRobot wrote:
| For anyone else who has trouble figuring it out: _" what can my
| font do?"_
| obeleh wrote:
| I know the guy. He's very a nice oddball like that.
|
| Sjaalom!
| tripa wrote:
| I needed that. Thank you!
| scotty79 wrote:
| Does anyone know which font supports Katovik numerals?
| robin_reala wrote:
| Not tested it, but apparently
| https://languagetools-153419.appspot.com/ik/downloads/ has
| support. There's also an open PR to get them into Google's
| Noto: https://github.com/notofonts/symbols/pull/67
| cormullion wrote:
| don't know, but these Kaktovik numerals were added for Unicode
| 15 (released September 2022) so it would be a font updated in
| the last 3 months...
| the-printer wrote:
| This tool is useful for subsetting a font. In my limited
| experience, it looks like many typefaces are determined to
| accommodate every diacritical mark and language-specific glyph
| there is. I'm not sure how heavily that impacts font file sizes.
| Is "font bloat" a thing (yet)? If so, I'm curious as to whether
| more type designers may consider separate "W1G" releases. I may
| be imagining this problem.
| Sai_ wrote:
| 1. Don't know why but when I read the title of the post, I
| expected the website to tell me how a font would make the average
| viewer "feel" when they encountered the font in the
| wild...something like "this font is playful with a hint of
| seriousness and notes of business casual" or whatever else people
| look at to decide which font to use on their website.
|
| 2. I wish the list of fonts was filterable/searchable. I'm on
| mobile so maybe I missed the option somewhere.
| robbomacrae wrote:
| For question 1, it's pretty much a perfect use case for ChatGPT
| to provide you with the consensus of the (pre-2021) internet.
|
| For instance with the prompt "why should I use sans-serif over
| times new roman" you get "Sans-serif fonts, such as Arial or
| Verdana, are considered more legible on screens, while serif
| fonts, such as Times New Roman, are considered more legible in
| print. Sans-serif fonts are generally considered to be easier
| to read on a screen because the lack of serifs (the small lines
| at the ends of characters) makes the letters more distinct,
| especially at small font sizes. Additionally, sans-serif fonts
| are often used on websites and in digital media because they
| appear more modern and clean."
|
| Maybe the author should include a summary of the font at the
| top?
| kortilla wrote:
| ChatGPT does not give consensus.
| dunham wrote:
| Nice, I've been looking for a way to see what the math symbol
| coverage is for various fonts. (For writing Agda/Lean code.)
|
| The web page seems to hang a while for some fonts (e.g.
| JetBrainsMono-Regular), long enough to get a warning from Chrome,
| but it does work itself out eventually.
|
| It would be nice to have a mouseover or something (even
| title="...") to give me the name / description of a character
| that I'm curious about.
|
| (As an aside - does anybody know of a macos input method that
| will get me something like agda-mode globally?)
| krastanov wrote:
| You might already know about it, but JuliaMono (of Julia
| language fame), has pretty good math symbol support:
| https://juliamono.netlify.app/
| dunham wrote:
| Thanks, I'll take a look. I just now discovered that Noto
| Sans Mono has some math coverage.
|
| Ok yeah, at 11k glyphs, that's quite a font. I'm liking it -
| things like [?] are much more legible.
| adalacelove wrote:
| It has been in my TODO list for a while to explore my
| programmable keyboard for this task.
| mistrial9 wrote:
| tangentially - if anyone has useful recommendations for
| extracting Adobe Type1 Mac fonts into flat files with code, I
| could .. hm.. take the results and try this site!
|
| (or point to lines in FontForge sources.. not there yet)
| Kab1r wrote:
| I'm being pedantic, but the tool really answers the question
| "what fonts can my typeface make?". Fonts are specific
| configurations (size, boldness, italicization, etc) of a
| typeface.
| [deleted]
| caseyf wrote:
| For variable fonts:
|
| Is there a way to toggle and preview the available layout
| features?
|
| Also, a toggle/preview for character variants (cvXX) would be
| nice
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