[HN Gopher] The 88x31 GIF Collection ___________________________________________________________________ The 88x31 GIF Collection Author : zanchey Score : 156 points Date : 2023-01-21 10:43 UTC (1 days ago) (HTM) web link (cyber.dabamos.de) (TXT) w3m dump (cyber.dabamos.de) | bluedino wrote: | Such a fun way to show all your alliances. AMD, Netscape, your | domain provider, your hosting company, a Linux penguin... | zxcvbn4038 wrote: | Seeing a thousand of those images on a single page captures the | '90s internet. All it lacks is the giant throbbing pulsating 'N' | up in the corner. | DismantleMars wrote: | For anyone wondering "Why 88x31?" | | Back in the early days of the internet, a lot of websites were | hosted on Geocities, which was popular as it offered free hosting | on one condition - you had to embed a small banner into your | webpage advertising them. The banner image they provided was | 88x31 pixels, and so many Geocities sites would include other | external links as 88x31 images so that they matched the | dimensions of the mandatory Geocities one. | pluc wrote: | 468x60 was also a thing for banners back then | ponytech wrote: | I was about to ask the question, thanks for the explanation! | jwilk wrote: | But why did Geocities use the 88x31 format? | | https://neonaut.neocities.org/cyber/88x31 (link warning: lots | of 88x31 GIFs!) says it's likely because the "Netscape Now!" | button was of that size. | ajbt200128 wrote: | But why was the Netscape Now button that size? We must go | deeper | gmiller123456 wrote: | It's 88x31 GIFs all the way down. | bjt2n3904 wrote: | As it turns out, if you put two horses side by side... | vasvir wrote: | I think the parent refers to that which is a classic one: | https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/the-link-between-a- | hor... | blep_ wrote: | At the bottom of the stack, the answer is probably either | "it fit perfectly in an 88x31 space between some other | things on the first page it was used on" or "I drew a | rectangle that looked right and didn't bother rounding the | numbers". | CharlesW wrote: | But why [did GeoCities pick] 88x31? Weren't they matching the | size of the Netscape web badge? | DanAtC wrote: | Here's a search of 88x31 gifs from CDs, disks, and FTP sites on | archive.org as indexed by discmaster.textfiles.com: | http://discmaster.textfiles.com/search?widthMin=88&heightMin... | Sembiance wrote: | If you extend the range by 1px to be 87x30 to 88x32 you double | the amount of results and get those images that are off by 1px: | http://discmaster.textfiles.com/search?family=image&widthMin... | kris_wayton wrote: | Google's image search also supports passing "imagesize:WxH", | like: | | https://www.google.com/search?q=imagesize:88x31&tbm=isch | stiltzkin10 wrote: | All those banners would make an epic poster :O | harryvederci wrote: | > 1011 requests | 9.3 MB transferred | 9.1 MB resources | | I was going to warn about this, but then I realized that's | probably not even half of the average modern web page size =) | kevin_thibedeau wrote: | Clearly this was the killer app QUIC needed to solve. | 5e92cb50239222b wrote: | If they would just update the server to support HTTP2, it | would be 99% there. Living far away from the server I could | instantly tell that it was using HTTP/1.1, which was | confirmed by looking at the dev tools. | neilv wrote: | These look small on my setup. They used to be displayed 1:1 with | low-dpi screen pixels, no scaling. | lysergia wrote: | The 'Best viewed with Internet Explorer'[0] GIF triggers severe | nostalgia. | | IE was the dominant browser at the time, and these propaganda | buttons just reinforced the idea that IE was the only browser you | should be using. Still see the odd site saying 'Works best in | Chrome' as if Chrome was the new IE. | | Personally though, if your site is one of those annoying SPA | (Single Page Apps) and doesn't work in Lynx[1], you're doing it | wrong IMHO. | | Nearly tempted to put a button on my sites saying: 'Best viewed | in Lynx'. | | [0] https://cyber.dabamos.de/88x31/bestviewed.gif | | [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx_(web_browser) | Fnoord wrote: | The Netscape banners do it for me, as the time when Netscape | was dominant was a great time for me. The internet was a huge | vault for me, and every time I dialed in I felt that rush. | Every minute counted because we paid by the minute. | | Netscape is also Mozilla's spiritual father. | | Lynx didn't have JS support. Which was a blessing and a curse. | GalenErso wrote: | "Only retards use Internet Explorer" | https://cyber.dabamos.de/88x31/ieretards.gif | chunkyks wrote: | Recently enough to have been unacceptable, the director of our | internal apps team decided to only support IE when they redid | the intranet site. This, in a place that installs Firefox on | all endpoints and proxy logs showing less than 50pct IE usage. | | He was unamused when I started posting "screenshots" with "best | viewed in ie" logos added. | [deleted] | pachico wrote: | Don't tell me you wouldn't like the web to be, for a couple of | hours a day, as it was back then. | [deleted] | jwilk wrote: | Discussed in 2021: | | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27500624 (124 comments) | SV_BubbleTime wrote: | The WinZip 7 and Sexy Brittney Spears ones really take me back! | freitzkriesler wrote: | Ugh stop it HN, I can only handle so much nostalgia! FYI, in | Japan there's a sunset of websites that are meant for a Japanese | only audience and the pages are still designed in 'ol faithful | web 1.0 designs. | whstl wrote: | That's interesting, I recently had a discussion about how Japan | has a bit of a tendency to hang on to fashion for much longer, | but applied to music. Like certain styles of metal being | popular after decline in the west, 90s Animes with soundtracks | that sounded like 80s AOR/R&B, or even 80s-pointy-guitars being | used by Japanese indie bands. | | And not in a bad way, but more in a "fashion isn't as fleeting | in Japan". Also it seems that the new and the old are able to | coexist in the mainstream there, more than in the West. But | that's of course just an impression, I might be wrong. | freitzkriesler wrote: | You're not wrong at all. It's also out of necessity since | most development tools and documentation is EN to JP. Its | hard for them to find answers since everything is either in | English or outdated. | | Regardless, the mentality of ofjit ain't broke don't fix it | is well engrained in J culture. It's something that I admire | of the Japanese. | marginalia_nu wrote: | There's also: https://gifcities.org/ | | and I can't help but link to this cozy lil' gem | https://www.cameronsworld.net/ | reaperducer wrote: | Big blast of nostalgia from that Japanese pagoda image at the | top. | | It originated as a Commodore 64 320x200 image. Note how there | are no color changes between 8x8 pixel blocks. | | I forget the artist's first name, but I believe his last name | was Sachs. He was a huge deal in 64 art in the 80's, and later | transitioned to Amiga. | | I think he did a fish tank screen saver, and I seem to recall a | video game on the 64 where you flew flying saucers to destroy | Washington, DC. Because he was an artist, the graphics were | unlike anything else seen at the time on a home computer. | sedatk wrote: | Did you mean ZX Spectrum? Because C64 didn't have any trouble | showing multiple colors in 8x8 blocks. | reaperducer wrote: | _C64 didn 't have any trouble showing multiple colors in | 8x8 blocks._ | | In high resolution mode it did, which is the 320x200. You | could only have a single foreground color and a background | color. | | In the low resolution 160x200 mode you could have one | background color and three foreground colors in a 4x8 | square. | | I was a computer artist back then, published in several | Commodore magazines, and the first thing I had to decide | when painting a scene was if I could get away with the | 320x200 mode, or settle for 160x200 because I needed more | colors closer together. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-01-22 23:00 UTC)