[HN Gopher] How do we experience the pain of other people?
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How do we experience the pain of other people?
Author : item
Score : 32 points
Date : 2023-01-22 18:52 UTC (4 hours ago)
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| DerekBickerton wrote:
| As an empath, I have learned to _observe, not absorb_. Everyday
| life is filled with people in various states of pain, and it
| doesn 't always have to be some obvious physical pain, they can
| show it just the way they speak and interact with the world, and
| through subtle body language.
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| Not that I avoid those types of people like the plague, only a
| select few I try to listen to and try to make their journey as
| painless as possible, and being an empath for everyone you
| encounter is obviously draining and can sap your energy, fast.
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| MDMA assisted psychotherapy looks promising, and people don't run
| the risk of overdosing or using contaminated pills, and they're
| in the company of trained professionals who are also prepared
| with medicine to counteract the effects of the drug incase
| someone has adverse reactions to it.
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| Mental pain is the worst type of pain IMHO. Physical pain for me
| is bearable, since it subsides, but there is a strange thing that
| happens with mental pain and it's the feeling that it's going to
| last forever and be recursive. Imagine being permanently
| subjected to mental torture? That's what it feels like, but like
| physical pain, it subsides, only we don't believe that when we
| experience mental anguish.
| ghoogl wrote:
| i feel what beats a assisted therapy 10/10 is in the wilderness
| completely alone. i would never trip with anyone who had the
| goal of helping me because this is very dangerous
| 56friends wrote:
| Did you forget to add /s?
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| A person with severe PTSD would greatly benefit from being
| left alone in the wilderness. How come therapists didn't
| think of that? Probably another Big Pharma conspiracy. /s
| TechnicolorByte wrote:
| Are drug-assisted therapies a thing in the US? Always hear
| about them online but figured they can't be legal.
| [deleted]
| 56friends wrote:
| Yes, Ketamine assisted therapy is quite common.
| notRobot wrote:
| I relate to the experience you've described in the first couple
| paragraphs. I agree. Feeling for others can get very draining
| (as can thinking for other people). You need to make sure
| you're keeping yourself, uh, _healthy_ in order to be able to
| keep helping people, and that means setting boundaries. I wish
| I could help everyone, but I realistically cannot, and while
| sad, it is a good realization.
| based_bobby wrote:
| [flagged]
| isthisthingon99 wrote:
| It's difficult but "worry only about that which you can
| control" is a reasonable rule for sensitive people to follow. I
| can only control my actions. Nothing else. I can't even control
| my feelings.
| varispeed wrote:
| Some feelings can be controlled by appropriate action. For
| instance if you experience fear because you don't know how
| something may end. You may start doing research on it and
| explore different outcomes. Often turns out that these
| outcomes aren't actually bad and such information makes fear
| disappear in an instant.
| mahathu wrote:
| You should become a therapist dude, I didn't know it was
| that easy!
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| Next up: homeless people should just start doing research
| on the property market and buy a house.
| isthisthingon99 wrote:
| In my world, controlling your feeling means being able to
| turn it off or change it by sheer will. But yes most
| feelings can and should be managed through positive actions
| which you can control.
| ghoogl wrote:
| controlling feeling is black and white all we need
| absence of blood flow so we can tense our muscles we can
| go to near hypothermic conditions and stil we are subject
| to the brain stem survival needs and whos to say that
| doesnt have feeling
| ghoogl wrote:
| this dangerous line of reasoning we can to a large degree
| control our actions however this idea of control in the first
| place is in the wrong frame ihmho
| isthisthingon99 wrote:
| Explain why? Most misery comes from expectations.
| Deprogrammer9 wrote:
| Mirror Neurons
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| https://florida.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/hew06.sci.life...
| aaron695 wrote:
| [dead]
| [deleted]
| thinkingkong wrote:
| To me the most interesting part of this thread is the comment
| about someone explaining their own experience of being empathic.
| They describe their approach for handing it and that comment has
| been bouncing around karma wise for the last two hours.
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| My interpretation of what they saying is maybe different. There
| are people who are naturally more prone to mirroring the feelings
| they perceive through words, actions, faces, etc. In modern
| accepted terms, mirroring this behavious without reasoning or any
| boundaries in place would result in you splitting your
| experience. If you have no boundaries emotionally, physically, or
| mentally you risk being steam rolled by outside influence. This
| is a fairly well understood effect in psychology, even though the
| term "empath" or highly sensitive person isnt as widely regarded.
| In either case I think its strange that someones personal
| experience and they way they deal with it results in so many
| divsive comments.
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