[HN Gopher] Marp: Markdown Presentation Ecosystem
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       Marp: Markdown Presentation Ecosystem
        
       Author : bjourne
       Score  : 200 points
       Date   : 2023-01-24 10:28 UTC (12 hours ago)
        
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       | NickFanion wrote:
       | My pain point with these tools has been that my presentation
       | ultimately ends up in the hands of business users, and they
       | expect an editable PowerPoint. This includes native
       | charts/visuals/tables. They don't like giving up control and get
       | frustrated if a chart is an image or an SVG shape. Even when
       | these tools export to PowerPoint, there is no native chart
       | capability.
        
         | GuB-42 wrote:
         | Here is a trick for you if you want some to have a somewhat
         | editable SVG chart in PowerPoint.
         | 
         | Import your SVG in LibreOffice Impress, right click on it and
         | select "Break", save your file as a .pptx, open your file in
         | PowerPoint, copy the chart to your presentation.
         | 
         | I have used it a few times because I generated my charts using
         | graphviz and the business people wanted something editable
         | within PowerPoint. It is far from perfect because anchors are
         | not supported, but it is enough to do minor modifications like
         | fixing typos or changing the font for something similar sized.
        
       | MilStdJunkie wrote:
       | Asciidoc core for at least four years now
       | 
       | https://docs.asciidoctor.org/reveal.js-converter/latest/conv...
        
       | erremerre wrote:
       | I never understood the appealing of Markdown for this kind of
       | projects. At least on my environment, a presentation is a
       | document that get send to different people, or live in a
       | network/sharepoint folder were several persons contribute to it.
       | 
       | I imagine it must be a time saver for somebody, otherwise they
       | were not be so many markdown presentation frameworks. But I can't
       | figure it out the case.
        
         | paultopia wrote:
         | TBH the appeal for me is that using powerpoint and the like is
         | _miserable_. The moment you have more than one element on a
         | slide, it 's click click click click click click drag drag drag
         | drag click click drag drag click drag killself to get anything
         | aligned and somehow it still comes out ugly and just MAKE IT
         | STOP.
         | 
         | the dream is that something could do for slides what LaTeX did
         | for text---just make it possible to have basically attractive
         | defaults for most cases rather than have to either tolerate
         | ugly or spend hours doing layout
        
           | jnsie wrote:
           | I've had the exact opposite experience, to be honest.
           | Powerpoint is about the most drag-and-drop friendly tool I've
           | used and makes creating presentations a breeze for my use
           | case. It offers vertical and horizontal guides when moving
           | objects around and manipulating text and images is much more
           | intuitive in my experience than manipulating
           | CSS/HTML/Markdown. I guess my use cases differ from many on
           | here...
        
           | xigoi wrote:
           | > the dream is that something could do for slides what LaTeX
           | did for text
           | 
           | Why not use LaTeX (Beamer) for presentations?
        
           | sfpotter wrote:
           | Honestly, it's not that bad. I've used Beamer for years, and
           | every time I make a presentation using it I fantasize about
           | finding something like Powerpoint to use instead. You think
           | adjusting things is bad in Powerpoint or Keynote, but it's
           | much worse in LaTeX where you only have loose and indirect
           | control over layout, unless you use something like PGF/TikZ,
           | which is just... tedious, let's say. I have thought for a
           | while that taking a class to learn how to properly use
           | something like Adobe Illustrator would repay itself many
           | times over.
           | 
           | Also, a poor craftsman blames his tools... things like Beamer
           | might "look nicer", but the downside is homogeneity. I've you
           | seen one Beamer presentation, you've seen them all. On the
           | other hand, the "ugliness" of a Powerpoint or Keynote
           | presentation is probably down to your lack of skill at visual
           | design.
        
             | paultopia wrote:
             | But that's precisely the point. There are lots and lots of
             | people who need to make presentations regularly, who do not
             | have professional visual design training or the budget to
             | hire pros. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that the number
             | of PowerPoints and the like made by pros is a vanishingly
             | small number of total PowerPoints. The rest of us are not
             | supposed to be craftsmen in that, we're supposed to be
             | craftsmen in the thing the presentation is _about_. This is
             | a market opportunity for someone to make better tools.
        
               | sfpotter wrote:
               | I disagree.
               | 
               | If you're giving presentations as part of your job, then
               | part of your job is to give presentations. Presumably,
               | you should also do a _good_ job of giving those
               | presentations. Giving a good presentation means
               | communicating effectively using the medium, which very
               | well could require becoming enough of a craftsman to use
               | the medium well. Lots of jobs require learning skills
               | that are unrelated to main focus of the job. That 's just
               | life.
               | 
               | Of course, we could talk about whether so many people
               | _should_ be giving presentations, but that 's another
               | issue...
               | 
               | I suppose the opportunity exists for someone to step in
               | and create a magical tool, but I have to say I think it's
               | probably better if people just learn to communicate
               | visually if they're able.
        
               | paultopia wrote:
               | I mean, sure, I guess, if you think that visual design
               | isn't a professional field that people can spend their
               | whole careers on.
               | 
               | I come at this from a weird angle, maybe. As an academic,
               | I'm basically a professional writer. I recognize that I
               | have pro-level writing skills, earned over years of blood
               | and pain, and that when I read some corporate memo (more
               | often than I'd like) it will almost certainly be written
               | very badly, by my lights. But I forgive that, because
               | even though writing memos and such is a part of many
               | corporate jobs, it isn't the most important skill, and
               | it's a skill that takes years to master.
               | 
               | Would it be ideal if those memos were written more
               | skillfully? Sure. Is that realistic, given the
               | constraints on people's time? Absolutely not. When
               | someone wires up a language transformer model to fix
               | that, I will cheer.
        
               | sfpotter wrote:
               | I guess it depends on what field of academics you're in.
               | Speaking as a fellow academic, all the time I've spent
               | improving my ability to communicate visually has repaid
               | itself many times over. This has helped my talks, my
               | skills in the classroom, and my papers (it doesn't hurt
               | to be able to make nice figures). It even helps when I'm
               | just trying to explain something to a colleague on the
               | blackboard.
               | 
               | (Incidentally, your response is quite condescending. I
               | clearly didn't suggest that visual design isn't a
               | professional field.)
        
         | wink wrote:
         | I wrote something like this for conference talks ~12 years ago
         | because I hate PowerPoint and don't have a Mac (for whatever
         | not completely disastrous presentation tool my coworkers used).
         | Didn't use it for a while but markdown to latex-beamer made
         | total sense to me.
        
         | t43562 wrote:
         | You can put markdown into git and see diffs of it as it
         | changes. This is easier with a text format than with PDF.
         | 
         | On top of that you can just concentrate on the content because
         | how it gets shown is mainly handled by the system not you.
         | There might be less freedom but you are freed from burden too.
        
         | blindseer wrote:
         | The idea is that if you just wanted to send someone something
         | to read you could send them a PDF or word document.
         | 
         | If I wanted to present it you could build a ppt.
         | 
         | And having the source for this un Markdown to use with pandoc
         | is nice.
        
         | benrbray wrote:
         | For me it's the ability to type math in LaTeX notation on the
         | slides. Google slides doesn't support this and neither did
         | PowerPoint last time I used it many years ago.
         | 
         | When I was a TA I used a plugin to let me display Jupyter
         | notebooks as a slideshow, that was really handy. Much better
         | editing experience than ppt plus you have readable diffs with
         | git.
        
         | w0m wrote:
         | Git is the answer. Inline rendering and versioning/sharing
         | baked in.
        
         | AeroNotix wrote:
         | I would assume the vast majority of use-cases for this kind of
         | thing is that Markdown is really easy to write, simple to add
         | the few markup type things you'd want (bullet lists, tables
         | etc) while having a simple enough format to render to various
         | other formats which are more widely accepted as being
         | "professional" enough for presentations.
        
       | throwawaaarrgh wrote:
       | Developers sure love terrible user interfaces and poor
       | information presentation, don't they?
        
         | pavlov wrote:
         | Surely design and structure are just a matter of sprinkling
         | enough ASCII special characters into a text blob.
        
       | amai wrote:
       | I believe https://quarto.org/ is the way to go in the universe of
       | Markdown tools. At least for serious scientific presentations it
       | seems the better choice. Under the hood it uses pandoc markdown
       | and converts it into a revealjs presentation.
        
       | crvdgc wrote:
       | I used to write presentation slides in Markdown using
       | pandoc+beamer. Basic contents are written in plain Markdown, but
       | you can always resort to LaTeX beamer for advanced features. In
       | the end, it compiles to a PDF file.
       | 
       | A blog post: https://ubikium.gitlab.io/portfolio/latex-beamer-
       | flake.html Example code: https://github.com/crvdgc/latex-beamer-
       | flake
        
       | michaelrpeskin wrote:
       | I _really_ want to like any of the markdown to slides tools, but
       | I can never find one that makes sense for my workflow.
       | 
       | I've revamped my entire workflow around writing proposals,
       | reports, and other collaborative documents using markdown. With
       | the time savings of using plain text and git, I can put together
       | a professional looking document in a third the time compared to
       | when we were all passing around
       | proposal_version2_final_final2.docx around. And with most of the
       | company using Azure DevOps wikis which are markdown based, I can
       | have everyone collaborate in the wiki and then I pull the repo
       | locally, cat the .md files together and render as a pdf and send
       | it out.
       | 
       | ...but my presentations are typically a title, one or two
       | phrases, and a figure. And then I mark up the figure with arrows
       | or circles, or other overlays. The only way I can get that to
       | work in a markdown-to-slides workflow is to end up drawing the
       | figures in powerpoint or draw.io or something, exporting them as
       | a png and embedding them in the slide. So if I'm going to be in
       | powerpoint anyway, I just end up making the slides there.
       | 
       | That being said, I'll probably spend the day in the Marp rabbit
       | hole and see if I can get it to work for me. I hadn't heard of it
       | until today. If I can live in markdown and VS Code, I'll be
       | happy!
        
         | Helmut10001 wrote:
         | For reveal-js, you can always use `?print-pdf.` to get a static
         | PDF from your slides.
         | 
         | [1] https://revealjs.com/pdf-export/
        
           | michaelrpeskin wrote:
           | I created a makefile that takes the markdown and generates
           | pdf and other outputs using pandoc with reveal-js. It works
           | great for me except for the part about managing complex
           | figures that I need a gui to draw. For figures that I create
           | in python, that's great (I believe quarto was mentioned
           | earlier, and that works great for more dynamic figure too).
           | But if I'm annotating figures, opening up ppt and adding an
           | arrow and text box is so easy.
           | 
           | I try to model my figures after these suggestions (it means
           | it's not easy to make figures without a visual editor):
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unzc731iCUY
        
             | Helmut10001 wrote:
             | Yes, reveal-js is missing an easy to se wysiwyg editor, I
             | agree.
        
         | pugillum wrote:
         | You can actually embed drawio files directly in Markdown by
         | creating your files as drawio.svg and then linking them in the
         | Markdown, e.g. ![](my_lovely_drawing.drawio.svg). I explain it
         | in this blog post: https://www.pugillum.com/posts/2021_11_28_dr
         | awio_in_markdown.... This also works for Marp slides
        
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       | dr_hooo wrote:
       | Does anyone care to highlight the main differences between this
       | and pandoc for creating slides in markdown?
        
         | TuringTest wrote:
         | For a start, this one has a VS Code plugin, so you can preview
         | the resulting slides while writing them, without having to
         | configure a build step.
         | 
         | It also seems to have a DSL giving you some control of the
         | slides presentation, which in pandoc seems limited to applying
         | CSS.
         | 
         | https://marpit.marp.app/directives
        
       | sfpotter wrote:
       | Using Markdown for presentations seems like we're going in the
       | wrong direction, if anything?
       | 
       | Presentations should have as little text as possible, but
       | Markdown is a text-first markup language. I feel like if I used
       | Markdown, I would end up putting way too much text on the screen
       | because it's what's most convenient.
        
         | yalue wrote:
         | Boy, if only you saw how popular Beamer (a LaTeX presentation
         | framework) was in certain academic circles. Spoiler: it leads
         | to exactly the problem you describe, in addition to using some
         | default styling that manages to be both hideous and crushingly
         | bland at the same time. At least, based on the screenshots,
         | this proposed framework doesn't have the second problem.
         | 
         | I guess, the way I view this is as a "better beamer" (which
         | isn't saying much IMO) rather than a better powerpoint.
         | Basically, it's a way for people who were going to make a text-
         | heavy presentation anyway to produce something that looks OK,
         | and to avoid using a heavyweight tool like LaTeX.
        
         | cycomanic wrote:
         | Having used many different tools to create presentations,
         | including sozi, and jessyink (svg to presentation tools using
         | inkscape), Markdown tools (reveal, sli.dev, reveal via org
         | mode) and power point, I actually find that using Markdown
         | tools typically leads to less text in slides (I know this is
         | counterintuitive). You essentially often end up with a single
         | statement/single image type slides that one often sees in
         | "inspirational" type presentation (e.g. Ted talks.
         | 
         | There in also lies an issue with Markdown presentations, more
         | complex layouts (e.g. a side by side comparison) often require
         | tweaking css/html and are more inconsistent. Unfortunately I
         | find it very hard to avoid layouts like these for deeply
         | technical content.
        
         | gugagore wrote:
         | I agree. Graphical animations (even to highlight text, tables,
         | figures) is such an essential part of communicating in a slide
         | show, and I have not found a tool that achieves both separation
         | of content and style while allowing convenient design of these
         | graphical elements.
        
           | danielvaughn wrote:
           | I don't see why you couldn't come up with a mermaid-esque
           | syntax for all of that.
        
             | gugagore wrote:
             | There is no good syntax to specify what part of an
             | arbitrary image should be highlighted.
        
               | atoav wrote:
               | Image swapping?
        
         | claytonjy wrote:
         | I agree, but lots of folks are making presentations of this
         | style because it's expected of them and they don't have the
         | power to rock the boat, like the sibling comment about Beamer.
         | Those folks still deserve good tools.
         | 
         | History and momentum is part of it, but the other part is the
         | value of the slides when viewed later. There's an inverse
         | correlation between the usefulness of slides and the quality of
         | the presentation!
         | 
         | Best I've seen is low-text Google slides with heavy speaker
         | notes included, but that's more work and prep than most people
         | are willing to do (myself included).
        
         | atoav wrote:
         | I think it depends. If you need to write many slides fast, this
         | is a very good format to get it done.
        
           | sfpotter wrote:
           | If you have to write many slides fast you are going to give a
           | bad talk.
        
       | dcchambers wrote:
       | This is pretty neat!
       | 
       | I have played around with slides^1 before for doing small demos
       | with my team, but I find that outside of highly technical geeks
       | most people don't want to look at presentations in plain text in
       | a terminal window. I like that this lets you create more
       | traditional graphical slide decks while still using markdown +
       | your favorite editor.
       | 
       | [1]: https://maaslalani.com/slides/
        
       | doersino wrote:
       | Since everyone's sharing their implementation of "slides, but
       | written in Markdown", here's mine:
       | https://github.com/doersino/markdeep-slides
       | 
       | It's perhaps unique in that it doesn't require any sort of build
       | process - inheriting its approach from Markdeep (https://casual-
       | effects.com/markdeep/), it's just an HTML file (containing your
       | Markdown content and a few <script> tags at the bottom) and a bit
       | of JS/CSS.
        
         | amtamt wrote:
         | This is so nice. One feature I would like to see in web
         | presentation tools where we can run multiple browsers in
         | different location with participant view, synced with the view
         | what presenter is showing. Can save a ton of bandwidth then by
         | not having to share the screen and not having to need video
         | streaming.
        
           | jskherman wrote:
           | For reveal.js, there's the multiplex[0] plugin that can
           | synchronize views.
           | 
           | [0]: https://github.com/reveal/multiplex
        
       | adjusted wrote:
       | use https://github.com/slidevjs/slidev instead, its much better
        
         | detaro wrote:
         | what's better about it?
        
       | veganjay wrote:
       | It depends on what you are presenting. I found
       | [mdp](https://github.com/visit1985/mdp) to be very useful when
       | presenting a tech talk. It is easy to copy and paste from the
       | source material, it can be done all via the terminal, and it
       | views well as a README on github.
       | 
       | Here is an example of a presentation I gave:
       | 
       | https://github.com/veganjay/prefectdemo/blob/main/presentati...
        
       | jonahbenton wrote:
       | Really like this tool, glad to see it here.
        
       | gampleman wrote:
       | I wish someone made a Markdown -> Keynote tool.
       | 
       | Markdown is great to write a talk (especially a talk about code)
       | and not get distracted by pimping your slides. But once it comes
       | time to make your slides look really great, I wish there was a
       | proper UI for it (with fancy anination etc).
        
         | masklinn wrote:
         | Pandoc apparently supports exporting to PowerPoint, maybe that
         | could be a sufficient intermediate step from which you can
         | import into keynote?
         | 
         | Alternatively it supports a few HTML-based slides support (as
         | well as beamer), that's no UI but it should offer good
         | opportunities for styling / customising.
        
       | dainiusse wrote:
       | Congrats for posting. But I open up the page - don't see any easy
       | way to launch fullscreen example and I quit.
        
         | vidarh wrote:
         | It seems like all the boxes on the front page would've lent
         | themselves very well to a demo presentation.
        
       | Helmut10001 wrote:
       | For my lectures [1], I use reveal-js [2], created with Jekyll
       | from Markdown slides [3], surprised no one has mentioned reveal-
       | js so far. The combination with Jekyll is great, since you can
       | author & organize larger lectures in multiple smaller, ordered
       | Markdown files. Reveal also has some really nice code animations,
       | e.g. [4] or [5]. This [6] is the git repo for [1].
       | 
       | [1] e.g. https://kartographie.geo.tu-
       | dresden.de/ad/python_datascience...
       | 
       | [2] https://revealjs.com/
       | 
       | [3] https://github.com/sylhare/Reveal-Jekyll
       | 
       | [4] https://kartographie.geo.tu-
       | dresden.de/ad/python_datascience...
       | 
       | [5] https://kartographie.geo.tu-
       | dresden.de/ad/python_datascience...
       | 
       | [6] https://gitlab.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de/tud-
       | ifk/python_datascience...
        
         | pydry wrote:
         | I'm curious what people's experiences are who have used both.
         | It seems to be the most solid competitor in this field.
        
         | kmarc wrote:
         | I wanted to love revealjs... but the "everything centered"
         | approach seems to me low-effort and chaotic. Maybe a pleasure
         | to author and render it, but hard to follow as a viewer the
         | always position-changing content.
        
           | Helmut10001 wrote:
           | You are free to layout your slides in any way with revealjs.
           | To disable auto-centered content:
           | 
           | ```
           | 
           | Reveal.initialize({ disableLayout: false });
           | 
           | ```
        
       | baby wrote:
       | I've decided early on in uni that I will reject LaTeX slides. For
       | the same reason, I think Markdown slides should be rejected.
       | Slides are not written documents, and they shouldn't be. Slides
       | are ways to communicate ideas. This is where you use images,
       | diagrams, animations, etc.
       | 
       | Use keynote/powerpoint/Gslides/etc.
        
         | jamesgeck0 wrote:
         | Nothing preventing you from including images or diagrams in
         | Marp presentations. You can include any image or video format
         | the browser can display. The majority of my Marp decks are
         | slides of images.
        
       | d4rkp4ttern wrote:
       | I am always looking for ways to quickly put together math
       | presentations and I've been recently turning to marp's VS code
       | plugin for this.
       | 
       | I also recently heard that quarto can do something similar (I.e
       | markdown slides with math notation), and it also has a vs code
       | plugin but I haven't played with it much
       | 
       | Hackmd also has a nice markdown/math slides mode but unlike Marp
       | it has no pdf export.
        
         | raesene9 wrote:
         | I think HackMD has PDF export for slides now
         | https://hackmd.io/s/how-to-create-slide-deck#Export-slides-t...
        
       | Dunedan wrote:
       | In the past I used reveal.js with its Markdown plugin to create
       | slides for presentations. While that worked somewhat it always
       | felt like working against reveal.js. Also their default of
       | editing the index.html and other files in the source code felt
       | really odd and I never managed to get good looking PDFs out of it
       | (and I tried a lot).
       | 
       | Then I stumbled over Marp and it's been great. Don't get me
       | wrong, it's not perfect, but for my use cases it's much better
       | than using reveal.js with Markdown, as it just gets out of the
       | way. Write your Markdown, maybe sprinkle in a bit of CSS and
       | that's it. Wanna generate standalone HTML pages or a PDF out of
       | it? Just run one command and get beautiful looking results.
        
         | a3w wrote:
         | markdown -> reveals.js pandoc is great. Having an tree-view
         | overlay for your 2D presentation flow in the final presentation
         | is as good as slides get.
        
       | 7174n6 wrote:
       | I like writing in markdown and use it literally everyday.
       | But...powerpoint and keynote are so simple, and universal, why
       | would you use anything else to slap together a basic slide show.
       | Yeah I know...independence... forever format... F'Microsoft.
       | Well, I'll take convenience and productivity, thank you very
       | much.
        
         | pohl wrote:
         | While mousing around in a gui to build pages of slides may have
         | a better initial UX, it can never match the productivity of a
         | user who knows the markdown rules creating one small file in a
         | plain text editor.
        
           | 7174n6 wrote:
           | I agree with that. But if you're doing a presentation about
           | something then curb appeal matters. You can't beat ppt and
           | keynote for simplicity and making it look good too.
        
         | bachmeier wrote:
         | > Well, I'll take convenience and productivity, thank you very
         | much.
         | 
         | This is exactly the reason many people, myself included, prefer
         | markdown. If you want to make an obviously provocative comment
         | like this, you should add some substance it.
        
       | synergy20 wrote:
       | https://github.com/d0c-s4vage/lookatme if you're a command line
       | guy like me, this is my favorite slides presentation system
       | inside the console.
        
       | vongomben wrote:
       | Cool! Also alle the other links other users are posting.
       | 
       | Question: is there an option obsidian plug in for this?
        
       | NunoSempere wrote:
       | See also: <https://tools.suckless.org/sent/>, which is similar
       | but has an emphasis in minimalism and the Takakashi method
       | (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takahashi_method>)
        
       | buro9 wrote:
       | https://pkg.go.dev/golang.org/x/tools/present
       | 
       | This has been in Go from the very early days - also Markdown.
        
       | heywoodlh wrote:
       | With Marp, I use a PowerShell function I call marp-template[0] (I
       | use PowerShell Core on Linux and MacOS) to create a markdown file
       | to serve as a starting template for me.
       | 
       | Then I use Marp's docker image, in another PowerShell function
       | named marp[1] to render the HTML (I like using the --html flag so
       | I can have actual HTML in my markdown files).
       | 
       | This workflow results in me being able to create presentations
       | very quickly.
       | 
       | [0]
       | https://github.com/heywoodlh/conf/blob/00d1b5aadd6a39288fa68...
       | 
       | [1]
       | https://github.com/heywoodlh/conf/blob/00d1b5aadd6a39288fa68...
        
       | dewey wrote:
       | There's also an alternative coming out from the people building
       | iA Writer: https://ia.net/presenter
       | 
       | The problem with all of these is that there's no good way to
       | live-collaborate with others. I feel like for most work use cases
       | this is table stakes these days.
        
         | methyl wrote:
         | Do you know any way to get the beta access besides just
         | waiting?
        
         | neodymiumphish wrote:
         | Are you talking about collaboration during the draft process
         | for slides? This seems like realm that HedgeDoc[0] could take
         | on, as they already support slide presentation modes for any of
         | their collaborative markdown files. My only issue is with how
         | difficult it seems to an average user to make decent slides
         | using this method.
         | 
         | [0]: https://hedgedoc.org/
        
           | dewey wrote:
           | Neat, didn't know about this project. I was indeed talking
           | about the draft-process. Thanks for sharing.
        
         | dr_hooo wrote:
         | HedgeDoc [0] allows you to collaborate in markdown, and also
         | create slides.
         | 
         | [0] https://hedgedoc.org/ and https://demo.hedgedoc.org/slide-
         | example?both
        
         | super256 wrote:
         | I hope they won't just focus on the presentation of graphics,
         | but also on text.
         | 
         | When you have many code samples in your project, solutions like
         | Keynote fall apart, unless you screenshot your code and add it
         | as a graphic. Same for formulas; MathJax or something similar
         | would be great.
         | 
         | I used Marp before and it was the best solution I found so far.
        
         | paultopia wrote:
         | oooooh.... I'd love a beta invite for this if anyone has one.
        
       | divyaranjan1905 wrote:
       | I've been using LaTeX beamer for the most part in making
       | presentations out of markdown. This can be a huge next step!
        
       | bad_username wrote:
       | I love the idea of Markdown and try to use it everywhere where
       | there's a need to write text. But, man, Markdown tables just
       | suck. The limitation of what you can put in a cell (exactly one
       | paragraph of text) is just crazy. I understand the need for
       | minimalism but the trade-off is simply not rational. Other
       | limitations I can work around but this is crippling.
        
         | rmnclmnt wrote:
         | You can put anything in a Markdown table cell using HTML
         | markup!
         | 
         | For instance, I regularly use ordered and unordered HTML list
         | in table cells, this is generally supported by all MD renderers
        
       | rspoerri wrote:
       | I am using marp since about 2 years for my lectures. I have
       | started to use markdown with presentations with deckset.com,
       | however it seems as the developer stopped support and
       | development. Also it's mac only which defeats one of the good
       | reasons to use markdown (platform independence).
       | 
       | Generally it's nice for me to have content summarized in text
       | only form. I have generally been distracted by all the layout
       | features i need to define with any other presentation tool.
       | 
       | What i was missing was some layouts in marp, such as left / right
       | splitting for images and text. However it's possible to use
       | markdown-it plugins with marp which makes that possible.
       | 
       | Using pandoc is another nice addition which makes it possible to
       | generate pptx from the files, however it's not supporting the
       | markdown-it plugin definitions. To share something it's still
       | better then the marp's pptx export which creates images in the
       | presentations.
       | 
       | Generally i am missing good support for video's in most
       | presentation tools. Also most presentation tools i have
       | encountered only work on specific browsers. I'd love to share the
       | presentations as html which is currently not feasible.
        
       | leetrout wrote:
       | I tried marp but fell back to Google slides.
       | 
       | Most recently I have been using Figma with great results. I was
       | surprised at how easy it is to make slides and with a few plugins
       | manage page numbering and such alongside components.
       | 
       | Feels like there is room for something that combines marp and
       | figma (assuming it doesnt already exist)
        
         | scrollaway wrote:
         | I like Pitch.com for slides. They have a free tier now, I
         | didn't even notice.
        
           | d4rkp4ttern wrote:
           | No math support though
        
       | pickledish wrote:
       | Ha, I am stunned to see there are so many of these!
       | 
       | I'm sure they all work very well, in my own case I've been using
       | Deckset for a number of years now and have always been impressed
       | with the polish and usability:
       | 
       | https://www.deckset.com/
        
         | xavdid wrote:
         | Same! I rarely use it anymore, but was always very pleased at
         | the Deckset functionality.
        
         | threatofrain wrote:
         | Does Deckset support Latex?
        
           | pickledish wrote:
           | It does!
           | 
           | https://docs.decksetapp.com/English.lproj/Formatting/08-form.
           | ..
           | 
           | (their docs are also quite good in my experience)
        
         | cjmcqueen wrote:
         | Is this a creature comfort wrapper for reveal,js?
        
           | pickledish wrote:
           | I doubt it uses reveal.js under the hood, but, yeah I think
           | they can effectively do all the same stuff! I just like it
           | because I tried reveal.js (disclaimer, a while ago) and found
           | it kinda fiddly whereas the macOS-native UI of deckset was
           | nicer to use
        
         | ngrilly wrote:
         | DeckSet, but I miss being able to create my own template, for
         | example to add a small logo in a corner to follow corporate
         | guidelines.
        
       | nzoschke wrote:
       | Nice!
       | 
       | Back in the day I made GistDeck, which made presentations from
       | Markdown in a gist via a bookmarklet.
       | 
       | https://github.com/nzoschke/gistdeck
       | 
       | Awesome to see this idea fully realized.
        
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