[HN Gopher] Forking Chrome to render in a terminal ___________________________________________________________________ Forking Chrome to render in a terminal Author : fathyb Score : 279 points Date : 2023-01-27 15:42 UTC (7 hours ago) (HTM) web link (fathy.fr) (TXT) w3m dump (fathy.fr) | anthk wrote: | Meh, electron. I'd prefer elinks being boosted with QuickJS | support instead of the old engine based on... Mozilla? | | Edbrowse uses it and it has enough JS support to even login and | comment against JS ridden sites. | | https://edbrowse.org | | Browser, email, irc, SQL client, file manager and editor for the | blind with an ed philosophy. | wwarner wrote: | I mean. This works really really well. I almost made it through a | captcha. | comfypotato wrote: | Could probably zoom into the captcha with some elbow grease. | The resolution is there if it filled the terminal. | | This is actually the showstopper for me with any kind of | terminal browser. I enjoyed playing with browsh (or what was it | called?) a few years ago, but this is much better. | | I wonder if my suggested workaround has any meat to it. | kps wrote: | Time to dig out my Wyse 50 again! | https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/o... | SirRockALot wrote: | This is really neat. Did you consider using the full range of | Unicode block glyphs to squeeze out a little bit more resolution | from the terminal vs just using the half-block? | | https://github.com/blitzcode/term-gfx/blob/master/src/main.r... | | You're still just getting two colors per character, but I think | it works quite nicely. | fathyb wrote: | It's a great idea, I did explore it but ended up falling in the | dithering and Fourier rabbit hole.. I'll give it another try | without any color tricks! | lights0123 wrote: | > One of the unicode characters we can render is the lower half | block element U+2584: . Knowing that cells generally have an | aspect ratio of 1:2, we can render perfectly square pixels by | setting the background color to the top pixel color, and the | foregound color to the bottom pixel color. | | Even better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixel Doesn't support | 24-bit color though. | fathyb wrote: | I did write a very fast SIXEL back-end [0] with adaptative | quantizing and GPU acceleration, but most emulators have a very | inefficient implementation unfortunately. For example iTerm | converts the SIXEL data to PNG, writes it to tmpdir, and | displays it as an image you can drag and drop. | | I'm still exploring it thought, but as a separate program to | run any X apps through SSH. | | [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34288262 | [deleted] | whatever1 wrote: | Newbie question: why the terminal cannot have full high | definition graphics ? | ShowalkKama wrote: | Reminds me of https://www.brow.sh/ | dodslaser wrote: | Super neat. If you want to go even deeper down the terminal | graphics rabbit hole you should look into adding sixel support. | | https://github.com/saitoha/libsixel | csdvrx wrote: | And for terminals that don't support sixel yet, sixel-tmux will | let you see them: | | http://github.com/csdvrx/sixel-tmux | | For example with Windows Terminal: | https://raw.githubusercontent.com/csdvrx/sixel-tmux/main/exa... | | OP, if you want to keep your current solution, check how going | beyond unicode halfblocks can help: | https://github.com/csdvrx/derasterize | wing-_-nuts wrote: | This is really cool. Is it supported on the framebuffer | terminal as well? | [deleted] | azalemeth wrote: | This is both genuinely very impressive and also brings me hope | that I can finally use Microsoft SSO only services natively in | the console... | sramsay wrote: | Hadn't thought of that. Take my money! | randall wrote: | This is the coolest shit ever. | synergy20 wrote: | xterm + w3m can browse with images for me. | | kitty + w3m is getting there as well. | michaelmior wrote: | I'm incredibly impressed with how smooth this is. (And how small | the Docker container is!) I might actually use this for real | things. | rubatuga wrote: | Absolutely insane engineering. Hope this is an alternative to | elinks | realworldperson wrote: | [dead] | sylware wrote: | What we actually need would be a full-blown modern javascript- | enabled browser written in simple and plain C (c89 with benign | bits of c99/c11), namely with a compile-time/runtime object model | suited for the "web". | | I good start: re-use the parsers from netsurf, get mr Bellard and | friends quickJS... and then the ez part: get 748392749324732984 | full-time devs full for 748937489234 centuries in order to get | such engine working... BUT it is not finish since, once | "working", you will have to play catch up with blackrock/vanguard | financed web engines and everything they will do to break compat | with your engine. | | Some ppl are still trying with rust? servo something? | anthk wrote: | QuickJS it's being used in the edbrowse terminal browser and | it's good enough to login and post on a lot of web sites. | sylware wrote: | Been a user of it for a while now. But don't worry, where it | was used to work, well... it usually do not last very long: | it feels like there is active work done to "break" any | alternative from vanguard/blackrock financed javascript-able | browers from "working". | rightbyte wrote: | Ye the problem is the web sorta standard themself. A never | ending bloat race that you need 100s of programmers to keep up | with. | | Thatcher is by design and I guess Google is mainly to blame by | now. | sylware wrote: | Well geeko/webkit and blink are all financed by the big tech | controlling funds. webkit(apple) and blink(google=alphabet) | are own and steered by those same ppl. | | Oh, and those ppl own and steer microsoft too, and some | wonder why those are using blink now. I do ask myself how | long they will keep webkit and blink since they have already | geeko to feint the anti-trust laws. | | But your are right, they made the "Standard" so insanely | complex on top of the core noscript/basic (x)html, that it | "works" only in their implementations with their armies of | devs. | | This is accutely toxic for humanity. The only "real" ways out | of this: restore noscript/basic (x)html where it is still | doing a good enough job, and if a "new" web has to be born: | an implemention must be something reasonable in time/skills | and efforts for a small team of devs. | igneo676 wrote: | Huh, built on electron. I wonder how difficult it would be to | bolt this onto vieb and have the ultimate vim-terminal browser | oldgradstudent wrote: | Next step: vscode on the terminal. | yuck39 wrote: | Install the VIM plugin and we go full circle | SeanAnderson wrote: | My jaw is on the floor. I would've been fully impressed with the | unoptimized version, but pushing it to squeak out significant | rendering performance improvements was a surprise treat! ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-01-27 23:00 UTC)