[HN Gopher] The Science of Sword-Swallowing (2007)
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       The Science of Sword-Swallowing (2007)
        
       Author : unpredict
       Score  : 74 points
       Date   : 2023-01-27 17:52 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | bb88 wrote:
       | > (Neon tubes, by the way, have an added risk of shattering
       | inside the throat, with seriously disabling and sometimes fatal
       | effects.)
       | 
       | I was lucky enough in my life to see someone do exactly this --
       | he even talked about how deadly it was before he did it. Though
       | for his performance, he used a metal cage around the neon tube.
       | It prevented the esophagus from breaking it, but still allowed
       | the light to escape out.
       | 
       | He opened up his shirt and allowed for 30 seconds everyone to see
       | the light emanating out of his chest cavity. It was a truly
       | remarkable experience.
        
         | hbn wrote:
         | That pull quote and first sentence made me think you saw a neon
         | tube shatter inside a performer
        
           | 867-5309 wrote:
           | it disappointed me too
        
         | Someone wrote:
         | > he even talked about how deadly it was before he did it
         | 
         | I would not immediately believe a performer saying that. Saying
         | something is extremely dangerous can be part of the
         | performance.
         | 
         | In this case the tube may not have been made of glass, or there
         | might have been a layer of plastic between the glass and the
         | metal cage.
         | 
         | That wouldn't make it zero risk, but certainly would have
         | decreased the risk.
        
           | adrian_b wrote:
           | The tube must have been made of glass, otherwise it could not
           | keep the air out of the low-pressure interior.
           | 
           | However, you are right that a minimal precaution would be to
           | wrap the tube in a transparent plastic film, preferably glued
           | to the glass, in order to contain any broken shards.
        
             | stavros wrote:
             | It may not have been a neon tube, it may have been a
             | plexiglass tube with LED lights and a diffuser. How can you
             | tell from inside an esophagus?
        
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               | bb88 wrote:
               | I recall it looking bright like a neon tube with the glow
               | that neon tubes emit -- also with heavy duty cable going
               | into the neon tube. He swallows the sword on stage so
               | everyone sees the sword go in and out.
               | 
               | I also had no doubt to believe it wasn't a glass neon
               | tube.
        
               | stavros wrote:
               | Sorry, I meant in the hypothetical case where someone
               | swallows a "neon" tube without any shielding. The metal
               | cage in your case tells me that it was probably
               | legitimate.
               | 
               | Though, what happened to the other end of the wire?
        
           | Waterluvian wrote:
           | There's a thing Penn and Teller talk about (in the nail gun
           | routine) about how it is immoral for a trick to have any real
           | danger as it makes the audience complicit in risk. This
           | resonates with me considerably.
           | 
           | But then you move further from magic and closer to acrobatics
           | and things like tightrope acts without nets have real danger.
        
             | bb88 wrote:
             | Juggling, circus acts, and heck even air shows can be
             | dangerous for the performers. I've seen an air show
             | performer die during his act a few years ago when he
             | crashed into the ground.
             | 
             | Even the NFL has a good amount of danger during every game
             | -- and people get injured.
             | 
             | But spectators have died during Airshows [0] and during,
             | say, the Indy 500 [1].
             | 
             | [0]: https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/air-show-
             | acciden...
             | 
             | [1]:
             | https://www.sportscasting.com/indianapolis-500-tragedy-
             | rarel...
        
       | olliej wrote:
       | I assume you have to ensure you haven't inherited
       | Haemochromatosis. :D
        
         | cardiffspaceman wrote:
         | I don't think anyone finds it necessary to extricate a sword
         | with chelation therapy.
        
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       | a_c wrote:
       | One does not read sword swallowing without mentioning professor
       | Hans Rosling's sword swallowing during his statistic talk(s?)
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Rosling
       | 
       | https://youtu.be/TAMMPA4kg70?t=512
        
       | notamy wrote:
       | (2007)
        
         | Zircom wrote:
         | To be fair I don't think much has changed in the sword
         | swallowing world since it's apparent inception in 2000BC.
        
           | dredmorbius wrote:
           | HN's policy is that older posts are _encouraged_ , the year
           | designation simply alerts readers that the information is not
           | current.
           | 
           | <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8244765>
           | 
           | (Edit) And: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30400761>
        
           | bcraven wrote:
           | Seemingly all the links have broken in the body of the
           | article, so having the date would be useful to not expect too
           | much.
        
           | hbn wrote:
           | I'm seeking funding for my decentralized web3 SSaaS (Sword
           | Swallowing as a Service) startup. Check it out at
           | swordswallow.ly
        
             | kjellsbells wrote:
             | If you had suggested swordswal.io, I would have thrown my
             | phone across the room.
             | 
             | You saved a cheap Android today, Internet friend.
        
         | pySSK wrote:
         | Makes sense. Make me nostalgic for this style of writing that
         | existed in the blogosphere circa 2007.
        
       | csa wrote:
       | Typepad... the high-quality blogging platform of the 00s.
       | 
       | The web was so much easier back then.
        
       | dogma1138 wrote:
       | Sword Swallowing is one of those things that I would really like
       | to understand how it happened...
       | 
       | Like who one day woke up and said I'll try that...
        
         | oneoff786 wrote:
         | Training to perfectly control one's gag reflex? Well I'll tell
         | you this: it didn't begin with a sword.
        
       | gnicholas wrote:
       | > _So gurgitators often "train" by chugging gallons of water in a
       | short period of time to stretch the stomach, or eat huge amounts
       | of cabbage (low-calorie, high-fiber) because it stays in the
       | stomach longer before breaking down. Thats also why fatter isn't
       | necessarily better. The prevailing theory is that excess fat
       | pushes against the stomach and limits how much it can expand. So
       | the best competitive eaters tend to be on the thinner side._
       | 
       | Never thought about this, but it makes sense!
        
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