[HN Gopher] Glen Canyon Revealed
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       Glen Canyon Revealed
        
       Author : bikenaga
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2023-02-01 20:53 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | justinator wrote:
       | Lake Powell should have never happened.
        
         | readthenotes1 wrote:
         | Would that mean California would support fewer people, grow
         | fewer crops, both, or neither?
         | 
         | From what little I understand, California consumes far more
         | than a sustainable amount of water every day.
        
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           | davidw wrote:
           | Most water in the west is consumed by agriculture. Like, a
           | huge percentage of it. Water for people is a small portion of
           | the total.
        
             | wolverine876 wrote:
             | I think that accounts for most water use anywhere. ?
        
       | timst4 wrote:
       | The slow moving disaster that is the Colorado River is a
       | particularly American disaster. The manifest destiny mindset
       | coming to an abrupt end. In the book Cadillac Desert Marc Reisner
       | asserts that this could be the albatross that contributes to the
       | downfall of the US. The more I learn, the more I'm inclined to
       | believe him.
        
         | naikrovek wrote:
         | yeah. the "grow at any cost" mindset that used all this water
         | unwisely will ultimately lead to many problems.
         | 
         | another example of short-term thinking and decision making
         | resulting in severe long-term loss.
         | 
         | "The bill comes due. Always."
        
       | jnsaff2 wrote:
       | For people who find this interesting I would highly recommend the
       | book Emerald Mile [0]. Amazingly well written book about glen
       | canyon, grand canyon, lake powell, glen canyon dam, dorys people,
       | racing boats down the canyon and a near catastrophe in the dam
       | building.
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       | Also lets not forget the classic Desert Solitaire [1]. It too is
       | well written and very interesting, in the book they take small
       | inflatable boats and just float down Glen Canyon not long before
       | it gets flooded.
       | 
       | [0] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15803144-the-emerald-
       | mil...
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       | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Solitaire
        
       | tpc3 wrote:
       | Colorado River deadline passes with no deal on voluntary water
       | cuts KEY POINTS
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       | - The seven states that rely on the drought-stricken Colorado
       | River failed to meet a Jan. 31 federal deadline to strike a deal
       | on voluntarily cutting their water use.
       | 
       | - After negotiations reached a standstill, six of the seven
       | states -- Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming
       | -- submitted a "consensus-based modeling alternative."
       | 
       | - The proposal notably excludes California, the largest user of
       | the Colorado River. Officials said the state will release its own
       | plan. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/31/colorado-river-shortage-
       | stat...
        
       | mark_l_watson wrote:
       | My wife and I visited the area 8 months ago. Amazing how the lake
       | has changed in the last 10 or 20 years.
       | 
       | That said, it is still a fantastically interesting place to go.
        
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