[HN Gopher] FOSDEM 2023 is live now
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FOSDEM 2023 is live now
Author : 0x54MUR41
Score : 317 points
Date : 2023-02-04 10:39 UTC (12 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (fosdem.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (fosdem.org)
| Tomte wrote:
| I'm missing n-gate.
| unconed wrote:
| [flagged]
| aliqot wrote:
| who hurt you
| Am4TIfIsER0ppos wrote:
| In reply to my prediction
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34265765 I am disappointed
| to report that it seems as crowded as ever.
| snvzz wrote:
| There's a talk introducing the PinePhone port of Genode[0].
|
| This is the very first actually secure smartphone OS. This is a
| huge development, but most are yet unaware.
|
| 0.
| https://fosdem.org/2023/schedule/event/genode_on_the_pinepho...
| Dowwie wrote:
| Do they record every talk? I can't find many talks from 2022 so
| it seems unlikely.
| tux3 wrote:
| I thought they did, but they might not always get around to it
| in a short timeframe.
|
| I'm dumping streams for a few of the rooms I care about, might
| upload them on Youtube later
| ekianjo wrote:
| Youtube? Not very fosdem-y...
| tomcam wrote:
| How would you meet FOSDEM's requirements without YouTube?
| And what is your proposed solution for distribution and
| audience reach?
| _ache_ wrote:
| In fact the FOSDEM doesn't use Youtube and still deliver
| live streaming only with HTML.
|
| Peertube is well suited for events like FOSDEM. The CCC
| use https://c3voc.de/wiki/voctomix but a littler harder
| to use.
| detaro wrote:
| I think you are getting a few things mixed up: voctomix
| has nothing to do with stream/video _hosting_ , and is a
| different part of the stack.
| vocworker wrote:
| Yes, the website (media.ccc.de) is
| https://github.com/voc/voctoweb/, but live streaming is
| actually a differennt project:
| https://github.com/voc/streaming-website
|
| They do interact a bit, to make it seem more seamless.
| tux3 wrote:
| I could also just rsync the raw unsplit files on a public
| server somewhere, would save me time actually =)
|
| (If you have usable FOSS Youtube alternatives, don't mind
| trying to use them)
| capableweb wrote:
| PeerTube is the only obvious alternative I know of, I'm
| sure others here know even better alternatives.
| pengaru wrote:
| Despite the proprietary javascript et al, it's still
| arguably quite "FOSDEM-y" to spread its information far and
| wide to every corner of the internet making space available
| for it.
|
| And in the case of youtube they make significant effort to
| maximize accessibility when it comes to devices being able
| to successfully play the videos and get the message, as it
| aligns with their need to show ads to as many people as
| possible.
|
| I'd argue shoving informational content on youtube is
| making less a deal with the devil than say hosting your
| FOSS projects on github...
| xdfgh1112 wrote:
| They do but some take weeks or months to be released. I gave up
| waiting last year :P better to watch live if you can.
| ZiiS wrote:
| https://archive.fosdem.org/2022/schedule/streaming/ go into any
| sesssion and the should be links to very high quality
| recordings.
| pengaru wrote:
| For anyone equally frustrated as I was with the site's navigation
| to simply find streams by room and not by some scheduled talk
| that happens to align with my current time...
|
| The raw stream URLs are of the format:
|
| https://stream.fosdem.org/${roomname}.m3u8
|
| So for room H.1302:
|
| `mpv https://stream.fosdem.org/h1302.m3u8`
|
| Room D.emulator:
|
| `mpv https://stream.fosdem.org/demulator.m3u8`
|
| You can see the URL-appropriate room names in various places by
| just hovering over the link etc.
|
| I don't know if it's just me, but the site's navigation to find
| streams as a normal human being seemed ridiculously unnecessarily
| convoluted.
|
| Why they don't have a page capturing a live cross-section of
| what's currently live-streaming by room, where you can simply
| click on the room that most interests you _presently_ to start
| watching that room is beyond me. Maybe I just missed it.
| [deleted]
| tux3 wrote:
| This may be the page you want? It has what's currently playing
| in every room, and you can find a link to the video from there.
|
| https://fosdem.org/2023/schedule/streaming/
| pengaru wrote:
| Huh, I must have clicked right past that page without
| realizing it was what I wanted.
|
| The right column of "no event scheduled" rows should really
| say "next event starts in XX minutes".
|
| As-is it sends a very misleading message of there being
| nothing booked for that room at all today, which just makes
| the page seem useless/broken at a glance when they all say
| that uniformly. I suspect it's why I quickly moved on from
| it.
| brunoqc wrote:
| yay, I love Fosdem!
|
| I wish the website would show the time in my own timezone.
|
| Is there a matrix space with all the rooms in it?
| phkahler wrote:
| Is Libregraphics still a thing?
| pxc wrote:
| Lots of Guix talks in the Declarative and Minimalistic Computing
| section! Looking forward to catching up on new developments there
| once the final videos go up. Hopefully I can catch a few streams,
| too!
| fatih-erikli wrote:
| [flagged]
| znpy wrote:
| According to a friend of mine that has been attending fosdem
| for a few years now, the main track is always crap but the true
| gold is in side tracks and topic-specific assemblies
| ghaff wrote:
| I don't think it's generally fair to say the main track is
| crap. But the logistics of the event are such that it
| generally makes sense to mostly pick a devroom and hang out
| there.
| znpy wrote:
| > I don't think it's generally fair to say the main track
| is crap
|
| i don't think either but that's the opinion he gave me.
| ahartmetz wrote:
| It's just an insane amount of talks with enough good ones
| to make it worthwhile, plus the important hallway track.
| Nothing special about any particular track except maybe
| that, historically, Postgres has always had a few really
| good ones IMO.
| HenrikB wrote:
| Mate, please be more constructive, especially since "FOSDEM is
| a two-day event organised by volunteers to promote the
| widespread use of free and open source software."
|
| UPDATE: I see you did so independently just moments after I
| submitted the above. Thanks for doing so
| fatih-erikli wrote:
| [flagged]
| fatih-erikli wrote:
| Looks like they are presented in a real venue. Is there anybody
| watching there offline?
| ZiiS wrote:
| Yes, maybe not the 2020 crush; but a lot of people.
| belorn wrote:
| My perspective is that there is more people today than in
| 2020, based on the welcome talk (it was full with people
| lining the walls) and just walking around. They have also
| opened up new rooms for this year.
|
| Since there is no registration there isn't any hard numbers
| to go on.
| rubenbe wrote:
| True, it's very busy.
|
| Usually they make an estimate of the number of visitors
| based on the number of connections to the fosdem wifi.
| midasuni wrote:
| The main fosdem wifi is ipv6 only. Amazing how many
| services don't work on it - Uber was just failing for
| example. There's a dual stack one too.
| pjmlp wrote:
| For me it looks as busy as it ever was, although my last
| time there was in 2016.
| glandium wrote:
| FWIW, last time I was at FOSDEM before today was 10 years
| ago, and it's as packed as (if not more than) I remember.
| [deleted]
| ghaff wrote:
| In general, my observation is that events are, with some
| variation, back to close to pre-COVID levels in spite of
| lingering travel hesitancy and some company travel expense
| restrictions--the latter of which probably affects FOSDEM
| less than expensive conferences.
| woodruffw wrote:
| Yes, me (and several thousand other people).
| Aachen wrote:
| Trying to watch it offline but it's a mistake honestly. First
| talk I wanted to go for this morning, couldn't find d.energy on
| the map where the talk was to be held. Turns out it's online
| only. I don't think there are viewing rooms anywhere (either on
| a screen or where you can use your own laptop) so good luck
| with that. Lots of other talks disappointing: project xyz about
| public transport routing sounds cool, but then you go to the
| talk and they show a few screenshots like we've never seen a
| transit app before and don't talk about anything technical. No
| overcome challenges, no tech stack, no algorithms. Another talk
| about Linux reliability for safety critical applications talks
| mainly about their project members and management structure.
| I'm interested in the project for its content, not its
| metadata. Finally, just now I left a 15-minute OSM talk 6
| minutes early to make the Glidesort talk (the rooms here don't
| coordinate with each other, you'll have gaps of 30 minutes and
| then 3 consecutive talks that overlap 5-10 minutes), arrive 1
| minute late, and nope not being let in anymore so I missed half
| the OSM talk for nothing. (The OSM talk was actually
| interesting, plus I was excited for this Glidesort talk. "Why
| can't we have neither?")
|
| Might as well just look at everything online then, then it's
| easy to zap to another one if it's not as advertised and never
| issues with joining a room. Treat it as a day out or networking
| event, rather than going here if you care about the content
| here.
|
| Afk now, gonna find a room somewhere at fosdem to watch fosdem
| talks online, as well as a clean toilet at some point...
|
| Edit: nvm the talks aren't online yet
| https://video.fosdem.org/2023/ , so can't watch what I missed
| earlier. Will have to reserve the hours again another day.
| ghaff wrote:
| FOSDEM is a networking and socializing event with some
| presentations on the side. And, yes, trying to attend a
| specific schedule of presentations in a bunch of different
| rooms is a recipe for frustration. The last couple of times
| I've gone I've done some combination of socializing and
| hanging out in one room for half the day.
| capableweb wrote:
| > The last couple of times I've gone I've done some
| combination of socializing and hanging out in one room for
| half the day.
|
| Same here. I pick one talk every day I "have to watch" and
| spend the entire day in the same room, considering the
| others talks as happy accidents but the best is the mix of
| people you meet.
| belorn wrote:
| I have used both strategies and yes, picking a track and
| staying there in the room has a much higher success than
| trying to run between talks. There is just too many
| people, and popular talks (those with famous projects as
| part of the title) has a tendency to create full rooms
| with long lines.
|
| On the positive, there are around 20 parallel tracks
| going on. There are almost as many tracks as there are
| talks on other conferences.
| pjmlp wrote:
| Same here, I used to hang either on Java or X Windows
| rooms.
|
| Also be close enough to the doors, so that in case to watch
| something else, to leave during Q&A for the next session.
| tux3 wrote:
| Maybe I can help with the VoD (assuming these are the right
| one)
|
| The Glidesort talk:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0iVKIseDnw
|
| The OSM talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu5ZrSccJcU
|
| (They seem to be coming online a lot quicker than previous
| years, though! I might not even need to record tomorrow =])
| tristor wrote:
| Sounds like this might have been your first FOSDEM. Each room
| is managed differently, they don't run coordinated tracks
| across rooms like other conferences. Usually the best bet for
| your first time is to camp a room where you are interested
| for a big project and use the opportunity to socialize and
| connect in the down times. There's usually a big room for
| Linux kernel stuff as well as Mozilla, and both have good
| properly technical talks. The MySQL and PostgreSQL rooms are
| usually good too with talks from Percona, MySQL, Crunchy, etc
| people who contrib to the projects.
|
| Going to random talks spread out across campus is the best
| way to end up frustrated.
| Aachen wrote:
| > Each room is managed differently, they don't run
| coordinated tracks
|
| That's the problem I was pointing out
|
| Makes life a lot easier for planners (reminds me of "the
| best firewall is not to have a connection"), but I'm not
| sure it makes sense for me to attend again, at least not
| for the talks. There were a few rooms with more than one
| interesting talk, but definitely not close to a whole/half
| day. And the angled narrow "desk" like things aren't
| suitable for a laptop, plus there is no power, so I can't
| "skip" gaps that way (and it's silly to occupy a spot like
| that also).
| sqs wrote:
| Yes, I'm at FOSDEM and it is absolutely packed. Like pre-COVID.
| midasuni wrote:
| Massive queues at lunch, at least inside the uni. Train over
| from london yesterday full of people with beards and T-shirts.
| Feels really inspiring just being around developers,
| overhearing talk with technical terms in, etc
|
| Great to be in person.
| m4rtink wrote:
| There are tons of nice restaurants in the residential streets
| around the University campus - we had a very nice ramen in
| the Menma restaurant nearby for example, but there are many
| more choices.
| Felmioytfr wrote:
| Yepp!
|
| And it doesn't feel any different than previous.
|
| Lots and lots of people
| pantalaimon wrote:
| The (unofficial) Beer Event was also packed as always.
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