[HN Gopher] Show HN: I made Hacker News but for research papers ___________________________________________________________________ Show HN: I made Hacker News but for research papers Author : kashnote Score : 133 points Date : 2023-02-13 21:11 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (paperlist.io) (TXT) w3m dump (paperlist.io) | aliqot wrote: | I really like the UI, very visually striking without too much | whitespace, and without getting in the way. | kashnote wrote: | Appreciate it! | chrisshroba wrote: | This looks awesome! FYI You may have a bug where you treat | unicode as ascii. Notice the " apost-symbolica" here [1] | | [1] https://paperlist.io/paper/724614047 | kashnote wrote: | Ah interesting. I'm using LaXeXML to translate LaTeX to HTML. | Might be something up with that. Will take a look at it! | rsfern wrote: | Cool idea! One of the great things about HN is the high quality | discussion. Maybe you can think of some ways to bootstrap that? | Like ask submitters to leave a micro review saying why the result | is cool or something they learned or some way they applied the | work? Ideally not just repeating the abstract | teddyh wrote: | HN has a set restricted topic: "Anything that good hackers would | find interesting." (from the guidelines). But, for PaperList, are | there people interested in research papers - i.e. _any and all_ | research papers? Or would it be appropriate to narrow the focus | on some subfield, or perhaps on "groundbreaking papers", | "practical papers" or even "controversial papers"? That last one | ought to get some traffic, at least. | xrisk wrote: | a site I would be interested in is: "papers a hacker would be | interested in" (aka papers you could nerdsnipe someone with) | which is unfortunately not what this website seems to be. | kashnote wrote: | This is actually what I'm going for, which is why I described | it as "Hacker New but for research papers." I think it'll | definitely be possible with proper moderation | rvbissell wrote: | Thoughts: | | * Allow logged in users to add tags to submissions (maybe | after reaching some karma threshold). Tags could either be | a private feature, or a shared feature. | | * Allow filtering of all submissions by one or more tags | | * "Favorites" feature for logged in users | mteam88 wrote: | Need some users and your set! | babbledabbler wrote: | This is so cool. Simple concept, clean interface. Nice job. I | hope it takes off. | danielecook wrote: | A few years ago I created upvote.pub (source code: | https://github.com/danielecook/upvote.pub) | | It never really caught on - but it was a fun project. I do hope | something like this takes off. It was able to import publications | using DOIs, PMIDs, PMCids, Arxiv, and Biorxiv. | username3 wrote: | Are you using pure white? | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34684761 | Aromasin wrote: | I know someone else has said there's not too much whitespace, but | I disagree. Comparing HN to this, I'm seeing 9 links per page | compared to 26 for HN. Even Reddit fits 10 per page, and that's | with thumbnails. It goes up to 18 with compact view. It needs | much more content. Love the concept, but the UI leaves a lot to | be desired in my eyes. | pictureofabear wrote: | Would like to see a tag showing the subject of the paper. Many of | the titles are not very descriptive. | eternalban wrote: | I wanted to signup but then saw that email textbox. | afandian wrote: | I know these are all arxiv.org so far, but if you want to include | research papers beyond that plaform, can I encourage you to use | DOIs for links? It'll make links persistent and easy to cross- | reference with citations and other systems. I did a spot check of | the 14 links you have so far all have DOIs. I'm happy to give | advice! | | (I work at Crossref.org) | sideproject wrote: | Related, but I created Scholars | | https://www.scholars.io | | Where researchers and others interested can create "reading | rooms" of papers and discuss. I have also been thinking about | something similar to this where a list of papers that people are | currently discussing is shown. | | This looks great too! | amir734jj wrote: | Is there a way to see what other people are reading and if I | could join/collaborate with them? | tchock23 wrote: | Suggestion: if/when this expands to include life science papers | add an 'in mice' tag. | | It's frustrating to read amazing research paper titles only to | find out it was done with mice. | voidbound wrote: | Looks super clean! I'll definitely be trying to use this. | overview wrote: | Filter tags would be very helpful. | sillysaurusx wrote: | What you'll discover is that the moment this falls off the HN | front page, your traffic goes to zero. You'll need to manually | recruit users, every day, typically by going to wherever they | are. | | Twitter is your friend here. DM everyone you can, and keep | checking in with them to see if they're getting value out of it. | | My personal experience was that I showed up, was delighted to see | so many relevant papers, but then lost interest due to zero | discussion. | | That doesn't mean that it's not interesting. It is. But when | you're making a social network, you're fighting a massive amount | of inertia. The default case is for no one to come. | | Give us a reason to keep coming back, and we will. | | FWIW I speak from experience, having spent a few years running an | HN clone that eventually tapered off. | | EDIT: Also, your upvote algorithm needs a bit of work. The most | upvoted papers are currently hidden on the second page. And in | fact, at this stage, pagination doesn't make a lot of sense -- | just show all the submissions. | kashnote wrote: | All good points. To be honest, I hate Twitter so I don't know | if I'll be trying to share it on there, but I agree that | promoting discussions is the way to go. | | PS Fixed the voting algorithm (was using ASC instead of DESC). | Probably needs more work but thanks for pointing it out! | sillysaurusx wrote: | Yeah, the reason people keep coming back to HN is that there | are different stories every day. That's the heart of its | success. If you want this to succeed, you can't rely on | simply sorting by asc, nor can you rely on community upvotes | to do the work for you. You'll need to manually place papers | on the front page, just like HN does (in its semi-automated- | but-human-driven way). | | And get ready for it being a slog. It's seriously soul- | grinding to try to curate a collection of new things each day | and see only a handful of people come. But you _have_ to do | it if you want to succeed long term; there 's no other way. I | was able to keep up with HN for about four months, before | basically collapsing of exhaustion. Then traffic growth | stopped, and never resumed. | JieJie wrote: | An RSS feed would be helpful. That's how I follow Hacker News | (news.ycombinator.com/rss). | trehans wrote: | This is cool! I suggest adding some more hints to indicate how | important/relevant different papers are. Maybe some tags to | classify papers in different fields, and number of citations or | amount of discussions online as a metric of how big a paper is? | (I know that's not a great metric but I think it's still better | than seeing a bunch of papers and not knowing which ones are | worth reading). You can also spark discussions. Seeing "0 | comments" discourages anyone to look at the comments, but even | having an AI-generated summary as a comment can be encouraging | and spark discussions. Just a thought. | riku_iki wrote: | why would you create separate site and not subreddit where you | can get way more traction from existing users?.. | eddsh1994 wrote: | An HN clone, not reddit. | | But one _huge_ perk of not having a subreddit is you don 't | have the mass of users come from other subreddits where the | standards of comments tend to be more copypasta troll-like than | HN. | afandian wrote: | There's also the risk of _not_ getting that halo effect and | passing footfall. | | There was something similar a few years back, upvote.pub: | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16273171 | | I don't know the reasons for it folding, but I imagine it was | difficult to sustain. | riku_iki wrote: | > users come from other subreddits where the standards of | comments tend to be more copypasta troll-like than HN. | | I somehow didn't notice this on relevant subs | (machinelearning, singularity, etc) | joshmn wrote: | Looks great. I think if there's one thing this could benefit from | it would be Genius-style comments and annotations. | https://genius.com/Genius-how-to-annotate-and-edit-on-genius... | afandian wrote: | Take a look at https://web.hypothes.is/ | eddsh1994 wrote: | Sweet! I signed up :) Hope to see it do well | albertzeyer wrote: | The problem is, there are way too much papers, even if you focus | already to some domain, like deep learning. But this seems to be | completely open to any topic? | | For machine learning, https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/ | is currently a good place, or Twitter and following some of the | authors you are interested in, or just set some Google Scholar | alerts. | eddsh1994 wrote: | It doesn't have to be every paper, just papers people find | interesting. HN is even larger, it can be _any_ subjects | _including_ papers but still survives. | MrLeap wrote: | Hard disagree. If a user submits a paper, chances are it's | because they're interested in it. I'm interested in this | precisely because I might find myself reading about something | in a topic I know nothing about that's interesting to somebody. | serial_dev wrote: | I actually enjoyed that the topics are broad. I studied | physics, but worked as a software developer my whole life. | | The topics on the site are stuff that I was interested in at | some point in my life: python, GRBs, code style, whatever GPT, | thermodynamics and communication. | | I used to read papers but I don't anymore, and this site lets | me keep discovering topics even if I'm not a scientist anymore. | I don't need 25 posts a day on gamma ray bursts, I want one | post a week and a fun discussion (which isn't there yet). | cobertos wrote: | Is that a problem though? HN covers a very broad spectrum yet | it still functions. | | Keeping it broad by allowing any topic but raising the bar to | require a peer reviewed paper might even decrease the velocity | of conversation, allowing better quality conversation. That is, | if the lower velocity can allow a community to form still ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-02-13 23:00 UTC)