[HN Gopher] GitHub Copilot for Business is now available
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       GitHub Copilot for Business is now available
        
       Author : markhall
       Score  : 35 points
       Date   : 2023-02-14 22:11 UTC (48 minutes ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (github.blog)
 (TXT) w3m dump (github.blog)
        
       | X-Istence wrote:
       | Will Github indemnify users against potential copyright lawsuits
       | related to the code it regurgitates?
        
       | breckenedge wrote:
       | An extra $9/mo for:
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       | * Simple license management
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       | * Organization-wide policy management
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       | * Industry-leading private
       | 
       | * Corporate proxy support
       | 
       | Wow. Who's going to pay a 90% premium for these features?
       | 
       | Edit: OK seems like different marketing pages have different
       | features. The list above comes from
       | https://github.com/features/copilot/. Still seems like a very
       | steep increase over the base. And I cannot believe there are
       | _only_ 400ish companies using copilot.
        
         | Aeolun wrote:
         | The price difference is mostly irrelevant to large
         | corporations. The just need that license management.
        
         | ch4s3 wrote:
         | People with corporate compliance departments.
        
         | das_keyboard wrote:
         | I think the privacy part would be a big part for some
         | organizations, even if I do not know what this really means or
         | what this implies for the other plans.
        
         | tccole wrote:
         | 9 bucks per developer isn't that much. I getting a developer to
         | be 5 percent faster is a huge gain for just 9 dollars.
        
           | paxys wrote:
           | Sure, but the harder part is measuring whether the developer
           | is actually 5% faster. Otherwise you can make the same case
           | for every $10/mo subscription service in the world, and so we
           | should all be operating at infinite efficiency.
        
             | aleph_minus_one wrote:
             | > Sure, but the harder part is measuring whether the
             | developer is actually 5% faster. Otherwise you can make the
             | same case for every $10/mo subscription service in the
             | world, and so we should all be operating at infinite
             | efficiency.
             | 
             | After n such iterations, the developer gets 100*(1-0.95^n)%
             | faster. So, after some such $10/month purchases, the
             | developer gets so fast that buying another improvement
             | yields diminishing returns.
        
         | Spooky23 wrote:
         | If you want to make a conversation awkward, ask your account
         | team about the indemnification for the AI's potential copyright
         | violations.
        
       | rectang wrote:
       | Is Copilot HIPAA compliant? It sends data to the cloud, so if you
       | paste PHI...
        
       | moyix wrote:
       | My prediction that they'd offer on-prem hosting of the models
       | (for businesses with IP / secrecy concerns) turns out to be
       | wrong! Seems like a weird choice, but maybe their hands are tied
       | by OpenAI not wanting to lose control over the models?
        
         | IshKebab wrote:
         | More likely their hands are tied by not many businesses wanting
         | to pay for a DGX A100 to run the models!
        
       | JoshTriplett wrote:
       | Sadly, "simple license management" here just refers to "who in
       | your organization has a license to use this tool", rather than
       | "where did this code come from and what license is it under".
       | 
       | This tool remains the equivalent of money laundering for
       | violation of Open Source licenses (or software licenses in
       | general).
        
         | unxdfa wrote:
         | Yeah we were told not to use it by the lawyers at work and have
         | an official policy against using it. Not having that would open
         | us up for liability if we're sued as there's no defence that
         | what we did was clean room if we admitted using it.
         | 
         | We'll hang back until other companies have litigated their way
         | to some legislation around it.
        
         | danuker wrote:
         | Indeed, that is why I don't use it either.
         | 
         | Double-checking whether the generated part is a verbatim copy
         | negates the speed advantage.
         | 
         | Possible infringements from similarity are even harder to
         | search.
        
       | aunch wrote:
       | if you want an actual enterprise solution with in-customer-
       | tenant/on-prem hosting, check out Codeium
       | (https://www.codeium.com/enterprise)
       | 
       | disclaimer: i'm from the Codeium team. but really, we will even
       | ship you a physical box if that level of data security is
       | important to you
        
         | BaculumMeumEst wrote:
         | you're going to need to ship that emacs extension if you want
         | to keep advertising on HN :-)
        
         | cloudking wrote:
         | What model do you use? CodeGen?
        
       | keithnz wrote:
       | Currently using codeium after they had an HN post not so long
       | ago. Seems not too bad, though for C# its code generation is
       | pretty poor, though apparently there is supposed to be
       | improvements to the model soon.
        
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