[HN Gopher] VR Airplane Deicer Simulator
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VR Airplane Deicer Simulator
Author : zamnos
Score : 38 points
Date : 2023-03-09 21:18 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| sandworm101 wrote:
| This has to be German. German sims are special, such as the
| ambulance sims where you have to put out your own cones, or the
| airport sims where you drive the catering trucks.
| smoldesu wrote:
| You can't even give us one level for free? I'll settle for half
| the plane if you just let me play it with friends!
|
| I don't even know why I'm frustrated at being unable to play
| this. It looks so boring, but so addicting... like one of those
| 2012-era iPhone games you'd see someone spend an hour on at an
| airplane terminal. Maybe I should go look for openings on the
| Delta website.
| kube-system wrote:
| They don't let you play it because it isn't a game.
| smoldesu wrote:
| That makes sense, I'm not _actually_ mad at them. It 's more
| like the frustration of a kid looking up at a crane operator,
| or wanting to get into the cockpit of one of the museum
| planes. So close, but so far...
| nlehuen wrote:
| You might enjoy this then: http://powerwash-simulator.square-
| enix-games.com/
| inoffensivename wrote:
| If I wanted to experience airplane de-icing, I'd pick up a Denver
| turn in open time.
| api_or_ipa wrote:
| Deicing fluid is expensive, $24/gallon or more, and an airliner
| might a few hundred gallons or more to deice. Also, when deicing
| is needed, it's fair to say _lots of airplanes_ are in contention
| for a limited amount of deicing equipment leading to costly
| delays which can compound and cause system-wide consequences.
| Suffice to say, any improvements to deicing aircraft quicker and
| more efficiently certainly has strong economic incentive.
|
| If buying this software + some oculuses results in even a couple
| of minutes faster deicing or a few gallons of fluid saved on each
| airplane this would be an easy sell to airport FBOs.
| zamnos wrote:
| The difficult part is in training. Training in proper
| conditions is _really hard_ because when those conditions are
| present, it 's all hands on deck and the instructors can't be
| instructing because they're out actually deicing planes. So
| there's a bottleneck for new deicers to come on board. Plus the
| cost of the fluid (and the highly specialized vehicles), like
| you mentioned. The use case is a bit more clear compared to for
| welding, when anyone can just pick one up from Harbor Freight
| for < $150.
| dylan604 wrote:
| I love the fact that the first image all silhouetted almost looks
| like a Start Wars AT-AT or some other sort of Star Wars inspired
| thing with weapons to shoot. They clearly have the coms unit to
| talk with the pilot of whatever vessel it is. Yes please, I'd
| like a simulator of that
| samstave wrote:
| Ive often wondered why we can just incorporate a thin copper
| mesh/snake patter into the wind sandwich.
|
| Are the fire risks too high due to the fuel being in the wings?
| crote wrote:
| Airplanes already have built-in anti-icing. It usually just
| redirects hot exhaust air from the engines. That's what they
| use in flight.
|
| Adding a separate system on every plane _just_ for the landing
| /taxi/takeoff phase probably isn't worth the effort: it'd
| require them to carry around additional weight, and the deicing
| system would require additional maintenance.
|
| But who knows, maybe we'll see innovative systems in the future
| which can deal with it in a better way!
| inoffensivename wrote:
| Typically, airplanes are deiced with heat from the compressor
| section of the engines ("bleed air"). Evidently it's
| cheaper/lighter to do that than it is to generate the
| substantial amounts of electricity that would be required to
| achieve the same effect electrically.
|
| The 787 is one aircraft I know that uses what you describe for
| wing anti-ice. I believe it still uses bleed air to deice the
| engine nacelles.
| detrites wrote:
| That page became extremely confusing until I realised "Deicer"
| wasn't a brand of airplane.
| drippingfist69 wrote:
| It was worse for me because i thought I knew roughly what a
| Deicer 3000 looked like. :/
| Aeolun wrote:
| Isn't this supposed to be de-icer? It took me literally the
| entire page to figure out what they were actually talking about.
| tommoor wrote:
| I like that the trailer
| (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdi6gToF3rk) says "Full fluid
| dynamics" and then in the next frame of the video the deicer jet
| goes straight through the wing of the plane
| kube-system wrote:
| I'm pretty sure it's hitting the leading edge of the wing and
| then going over both the top and bottom of the wing.
| drewtato wrote:
| So they send you a "High-performance CPU"? Isn't that weird? If
| you need a CPU, you probably need the whole computer and GPU.
| xnx wrote:
| Looks like a more serious version of Powerwash Simulator
| (https://store.steampowered.com/app/1290000/PowerWash_Simulat...)
| aendruk wrote:
| I don't fly much and had never heard of this:
|
| > Aircraft flight characteristics are extremely sensitive to the
| slightest amount of surface irregularity, in particular that
| caused by frost, ice, or snow.
|
| > In most cases ground-based deicing is accomplished by spraying
| the aircraft with an aircraft deicing fluid just prior to
| departure. [...] Typically deicing fluids are applied using a
| specialized vehicle similar to a "cherry picker"
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_deicing_of_aircraft
| ThinkingGuy wrote:
| There's actually a lot involved with the de-icing process:
|
| "..the spraying procedure is a regimented, step-by-step
| process. Pilots first follow a checklist to ensure their plane
| is correctly configured. Usually the flaps and slats will be
| lowered to the takeoff position, with the APU providing power
| and the main engines shut down. The air-conditioning units will
| be switched off to keep the cabin free of fumes. When deicing
| is complete, the ground crew tells the pilots which types of
| fluid were used, as well as the exact time that treatment
| began. This allows us to keep track of something called a
| "holdover time." If the holdover time is exceeded before the
| plane has a chance to take off, a second round of spraying may
| be required. The length of the holdover depends on the kind of
| fluids used, plus the rate and type of active precipitation
| (dry snow, wet snow, ice pellets; light, moderate, heavy). We
| have charts to figure it all out."
|
| https://askthepilot.com/snow-ice-and-airplanes/
| unsignedint wrote:
| Not deicer sim, but if you're into airport crew simulations in
| VR, there are some out there that you can get. They're based on
| real training software.
|
| https://store.steampowered.com/app/2088630/Airport_Ground_Ha...
| https://store.steampowered.com/app/2152560/Airline_Flight_At...
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