[HN Gopher] Did Air Pollution Influence Famous Impressionist Pai... ___________________________________________________________________ Did Air Pollution Influence Famous Impressionist Painters? Author : rntn Score : 44 points Date : 2023-03-11 18:44 UTC (4 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.smithsonianmag.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.smithsonianmag.com) | Mlller wrote: | A related hypothesis[1] connects the Tambora eruption in 1815 | with the colors of the sky in paintings made in the years | thereafter, e.g. "Greifswald im Mondschein" 'Greifswald in the | moonlight' by Caspar David Friedrich in 1817, see: | https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Caspar_David_Friedrich_0... | | [1] | https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/14/2987/2014/acp-14-2987... | samstave wrote: | how much lead was in their paints which absorbed into skin and | mouth when they would whet their brush with saliva? | MengerSponge wrote: | Not just lead! Cadmium (yellow) and arsenic (green) feature | prominently too | kergonath wrote: | That's not really a good hypothesis. Lead was not invented by | the impressionists. Why would they be the first? You'd expect | some kind of correlation; lead has been widely used since | ancient times. How is this any better that pollution, which is | known and documented? | giuliomagnifico wrote: | > "These results indicate that Turner and Monet's paintings | capture elements of the atmospheric environmental transformation | during the Industrial Revolution," the researchers write | | I think it's more that the painter captured the | change/modifications caused by the Industrial Revolution, then | "capturing the pollution". | paxys wrote: | > change/modifications caused by the Industrial Revolution | | So...pollution. | giuliomagnifico wrote: | Yes but kow we know that is pollution, in 1800 they didn't | know that was pollution, that is why I said that the painters | captured "the change" (and without know it, the actual air | pollution) | lostlogin wrote: | You can smell it and often identify what it it, they knew. | | The Romans had court cases relating to air quality and | London was suffering in the 1200s. In the 1300s London | started legislating to try and control the pollution. | | https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/air- | pollution-... | | https://www.londonair.org.uk/londonair/guide/londonhistory. | a... | kergonath wrote: | I am sure they noticed the smog. Besides, lots of people | see and comment on things they do not understand all the | time. Influence is not necessarily a conscious process. | | In the same way as it is known that Monet's painting was | probably influenced by his poor sight even if there is no | evidence that he did it on purpose. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-03-11 23:00 UTC)