[HN Gopher] Vesuvius Challenge ___________________________________________________________________ Vesuvius Challenge Author : razin Score : 152 points Date : 2023-03-15 15:32 UTC (7 hours ago) (HTM) web link (scrollprize.org) (TXT) w3m dump (scrollprize.org) | localplume wrote: | Reminds me of Kuzushiji recognition with ML, transcribing | historical Japanese documents. Both are my favorite applications | of ML: deciphering the past. This is really damn cool. | janpaul123 wrote: | <3 | SubiculumCode wrote: | I do a lot of brain image segmentation in my research using | multiatlas image segmentation, which involves diffeomorphic image | registration from multiple labeled atlases...but the amount of | curling in on itself of these layered sheets seems a daunting | problem for a fully automated pipeline. | irrational wrote: | People spent many many decades laboriously putting tiny little | dead sea scroll fragments back together like the world's worst | jigsaw puzzle. I think that shows if there is a way to do this | that takes a lot of tedious manual labor over many decades, | there are people who will be willing to do that. They just need | the tools to do the work without destroying the scrolls. | natfriedman wrote: | It seems quite possible that the solution isn't fully | automated. N is in the hundreds. And modern AI does, in fact, | involve quite a lot of hand crafted data... | janpaul123 wrote: | One of the organizers here! Would love to welcome everyone's | questions, ideas, etc! :) | all2 wrote: | How do I get my hands on the data set? There's no indication on | the site about how to make an attempt. | all2 wrote: | Nevermind. There's a hamburger menu in the top right corner. | It wasn't immediately obvious to me. | all2 wrote: | Another note: the demo data [0] is behind an HTTP link. | Consider getting it behind HTTPS. My browser was complaining | about downloading the data from plain HTTP. | | [0] | https://gist.github.com/janpaul123/280262ebce904f7366fe4cc15... | janpaul123 wrote: | Good point, we'll look into it! | jawns wrote: | Is this the most cost-effective way to achieve the desired | outcome? | janpaul123 wrote: | We don't know. But it's the most fun! | SubiculumCode wrote: | Does the prize include a PhD? /s Because, this sounds like | a dissertation-level project, and that prize money is less | than the cost of supporting a grad student, or a post doc | for a couple of years. That said, I think this is soo | freaking cool. | SubiculumCode wrote: | This needs to be solved ASAP. Chat-gpt needs more training data! | | but seriously, way cool project. | [deleted] | janpaul123 wrote: | More data!! | ccooffee wrote: | The images/animations in this page are fantastic at visually | explaining something quite complicated. I would not have been | able to understand the difficulty without them. | natfriedman wrote: | Credit for those goes to Jonny Hyman, who also does animations | for Veritasium, Dejan Gotic, who did the fancy 3d animations, | and JP Posma, who directed the entire project! | mkaic wrote: | Man, there's probably a dozen different loosely-formed ideas | floating in my head right now -- kudos on the exciting | presentation, you really make the problem seem interesting. I may | just have to give this a shot, though I think the odds of me | figuring it out are exceptionally low. Still, working on cutting- | edge problems is motivating, even if they're above my pay grade | :) | | You've nerd-sniped me good and proper. May the best team win! | janpaul123 wrote: | Haha yesss, nerd-sniping is the goal! | | I believe that there could be quite a few different ways in | which this could get solved. The potential solution space is | huge, so you might just stumble upon something interesting if | you wander places where no one else is looking.. | | Good luck!! | glfharris wrote: | Fantastic project. Amazing to think that there's an entire first | century library just waiting for the technology to be read. | janpaul123 wrote: | Right?! Who knows what could be waiting in a library owned by | leaders of the Roman Empire | Matt_Cutts wrote: | For what it's worth, I worked with Dr. Seales while getting my | undergrad degree. Happy to vouch that he and his team are great | humans. | | This is such a fascinating problem, and could have real benefits | for society. Imagine uncovering ancient works that would | otherwise be lost. | janpaul123 wrote: | Awesome!! They're so great; it's been such a joy to be welcomed | into their project. | | And totally -- especially if there is indeed a larger library | still waiting to be excavated. Who knows how many completely | unique texts are waiting to be read, if we just have the right | method to do so?! ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-03-15 23:01 UTC)