[HN Gopher] Intel Thunder Bay Is Officially Canceled, Linux Driv...
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       Intel Thunder Bay Is Officially Canceled, Linux Driver Code to Be
       Removed
        
       Author : nippoo
       Score  : 21 points
       Date   : 2023-03-19 09:54 UTC (2 days ago)
        
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       | stonogo wrote:
       | Why do the kernel developers allow corporations to shove code
       | into the tree for hardware nobody has? Google does this too:
       | https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin...
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       | I get that the corporations employ the maintainers of this code,
       | but if that person quits or the company discontinues a product,
       | now we're left with useless crap in the kernel. Why can't these
       | companies just build their own modules? Why is it everyone else's
       | problem?
        
         | toast0 wrote:
         | Because everyone is better off if distribution kernels get the
         | hardware support before the hardware is purchased.
        
         | dboreham wrote:
         | Because kernel developers are paid by same corporations?
        
         | charcircuit wrote:
         | As long as its being maintained by them and isn't adding to
         | their maintainence burden why care?
        
         | kardos wrote:
         | I think the idea is that the hardware will work under linux
         | right away when the hardware goes on sale, instead of some
         | number of months or years later. Surely that amounts to a
         | selling point.
         | 
         | > now we're left with useless crap in the kernel.
         | 
         | The article is specifically about removing the now-useless
         | crap, and the removal patches were submitted by Intel. I don't
         | see how Intel is doing anything wrong here.
        
         | nephyrin wrote:
         | > if that person quits or the company discontinues a product,
         | now we're left with useless crap in the kernel
         | 
         | Presumably deleting code is not very hard if it is unmaintained
         | or a burden.
         | 
         | > Why can't these companies just build their own modules? Why
         | is it everyone else's problem?
         | 
         | They're not upstreaming this so their own internal dev lives
         | are easier. They'd rather just keep using whatever development
         | repo they already are without dealing with upstream reviews and
         | requirements. They were upstreaming this so that everyone could
         | have support for the hardware upon release.
         | 
         | And, to that end, "corporations" upstreaming high quality
         | support for their hardware, as intel has been doing, benefits
         | linux. Throwing shade at them for preparing day-1 support for
         | hardware they ended up canceling seems counter-intuitive.
        
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