[HN Gopher] How the last-ditch effort to save Silicon Valley Ban...
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       How the last-ditch effort to save Silicon Valley Bank failed
        
       Author : marban
       Score  : 31 points
       Date   : 2023-03-22 11:36 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
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       | krmbzds wrote:
       | https://archive.is/Pn6Ky
        
       | dang wrote:
       | Related:
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       |  _Matt Levine: Silicon Valley Bank Ran Out of Money_ -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35265027
        
       | hackly wrote:
       | My bank (in Canada) has limits on how much I can withdraw per
       | day, per week, per month. Furthermore, there could be a delay of
       | up to 5 business days before I can get the money to its
       | destination. And that's for money in the thousands only. How is
       | that money in the billions can be withdrawn so quickly esp. since
       | these were high value accounts each in the millions/billions?
       | Couldn't they just use one of their terms or conditions to delay
       | the withdrawals and give themselves ample time to react?
        
         | loopdoend wrote:
         | This does not reflect the reality of business bank accounts in
         | Canada.
         | 
         | When you have treasury access you can wire as much money as you
         | want practically instantly just like with SVB. I bank with one
         | of the big 5.
         | 
         | Nothing is stopping you from going into your bank and wiring
         | money away it's just cash that they don't want to give out
         | without multi-day delays.
        
         | computerex wrote:
         | I don't think it would have meaningfully helped. Once the word
         | was out that the bank was in distress it was game over. Company
         | I work for also pulled out.
        
         | bitdivision wrote:
         | I doubt those limits would apply to business accounts, which
         | I'd guess were the majority of the withdrawals here.
         | 
         | Are you sure the limits on your account would apply to e.g. a
         | wire transaction? Of course there are limits on ATM withdrawals
         | and some other transfer methods, but I'm not sure they'd apply
         | if you wanted to send a wire.
        
         | ars wrote:
         | That's very odd. I don't know if it's your bank, or something
         | specific to Canada.
         | 
         | In the US the only limits are via the ATM or Debit card. If you
         | write a check, go in person, or send a wire, you can withdraw
         | as much as you want, with no time delay or restriction.
         | 
         | > Couldn't they just use one of their terms or conditions to
         | delay the withdrawals and give themselves ample time to react?
         | 
         | That's simply not a thing.
        
         | ozi wrote:
         | No business is going to park their working capital with a bank
         | that has those requirements.
        
         | tacostakohashi wrote:
         | Does it, in fact, not permit you to get to the entire balance
         | immediately via, say, cash or a bank check?
         | 
         | It sounds like you are referring to something like an ATM
         | withdrawal limit or online transfer limit which is just a risk
         | / fraud limiting measure for those particular channels rather
         | than a limitation on the account itself.
        
         | yardie wrote:
         | Is that for a debit card? I understand the liability in
         | draining a checking account with nothing more than a 4-digit
         | PIN. On the other hand, I would never bank at a place that made
         | withdrawal restrictions a condition to access my money.
        
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