[HN Gopher] Transitioning Away from Google Services
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       Transitioning Away from Google Services
        
       Author : jboogie77
       Score  : 20 points
       Date   : 2023-03-22 19:43 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | iLoveOncall wrote:
       | Almost none of those are viable alternatives. They're either not
       | free when Google is, a lot more expensive, or have a lot less
       | features.
       | 
       | And recommending Microsoft products or apps owned by the CCP as
       | an alternative to Google products is simply ridiculous.
       | 
       | I would understand going from Google to open source products,
       | even though I am not an open source fanatic, but going from
       | Google to another privately owned for-profit company makes no
       | sense. Is this written by a guy bitter to have been laid of by
       | Google or something like this?
        
         | warner25 wrote:
         | I too am laughing at the suggestions to swap Google for
         | Microsoft stuff.
        
           | jrockway wrote:
           | I am probably too far gone to be taken seriously, but my
           | startup got acquired and we had to switch from Google to
           | Microsoft and I actually kind of like the Microsoft stuff. It
           | has dark mode! If you're going to be Last Name, First Name at
           | an 80k employee company, at least your calendar can be
           | visually pleasant to look at.
        
             | iLoveOncall wrote:
             | I think it's totally fine if your reason for wanting to
             | move away from Google is not ideological or privacy-
             | related.
             | 
             | "It's better" is a good reason to switch. But this is
             | clearly not the case in the original article.
        
             | warner25 wrote:
             | Sure, I don't think Microsoft's stuff is necessarily
             | terrible. At work I've always been fully immersed in
             | Windows and Office, as both a regular user and IT guy, and
             | it's fine for that. I was even using Windows and Edge on my
             | personal laptop as recently as 2021. But if you're trying
             | to get away from Google as a soulless mega-cap corporation
             | that wants to trick you into giving up more of your data,
             | switching Microsoft doesn't seem like much of a switch.
        
         | yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
         | > They're either not free when Google is, a lot more expensive,
         | or have a lot less features.
         | 
         | I'm perfectly willing to pay for a decent service, especially
         | if it appears to actually incentivize the company to care about
         | my my interests.
        
           | iLoveOncall wrote:
           | I fully agree with that, my only point is that they should
           | not be presented are equivalent alternatives
        
             | jboogie77 wrote:
             | who said they are equivalent?
        
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       | binaryanomaly wrote:
       | All easy except:
       | 
       | - Youtube --> can't get around it
       | 
       | - Maps --> in few cases where apple maps is just not good enough
       | (depends on where you live)
       | 
       | Don't miss anything else 1sec!
        
         | jboogie77 wrote:
         | yea theres no way to get around youtube. I think theres stuff
         | like peertube but its not the same
        
       | pedalpete wrote:
       | - Docs/Slides -> Canva - Sites -> Canva - Photos -> potentially
       | in the future... Canva
       | 
       | - Browser -> Brave or Firefox
       | 
       | I'm curious if people think it is suggested to move away from
       | Chromium completely, or just Google's Chrome?
        
       | berdon wrote:
       | A few opinionated differences:
       | 
       | - Mail -> Fastmail
       | 
       | - Search -> Kagi
       | 
       | - Photos -> Google Photos (sorry, but...it's fantastic)
       | 
       | - Docs/Sheets/Slides -> Native/Non-Web Microsoft Office
       | 
       | - Keep/Notes -> Logseq
       | 
       | - Chrome -> Firefox or Orion
       | 
       | - News -> Hackernews
       | 
       | - Sites -> Ghost + Digital Ocean
       | 
       | - Authenticator -> Authy
        
         | thefounder wrote:
         | Google apps/workspace -> zoho
        
         | AlphaCerium wrote:
         | What exactly do you mean by "Sites -> VS Code"? Do you mean
         | create the webpage from scratch yourself, because a big part of
         | Google Sites is that the site is also hosted for you, and I
         | don't think asking a user of Google Sites to create a webpage
         | and host it themselves is the best idea.
        
           | berdon wrote:
           | I've updated my comment with what I use for hosting my site.
           | But my intent was what you gleaned.
           | 
           | Edit: Fastmail even offers website/hosting as a part of your
           | email service. I'm just biased being a developer and cry at
           | the thought of sites or wordpress - knowing all too well that
           | those products bring real value to many, many people.
        
         | jboogie77 wrote:
         | agree with authy. would switch if i wasnt lazy
        
           | 4d66ba06 wrote:
           | A reminder for everyone that Authy allows multi device and
           | backups in case you lose your phone. From my understanding
           | Google Authenticator doesn't offer either of these.
        
       | warner25 wrote:
       | There's no mention of Google Voice. I've been hooked on it for 12
       | years, with my primary phone number being a Google Voice number
       | for the last 10 years.
       | 
       | I've started using a lot of the suggested applications and
       | services - Firefox, DuckDuckGo, Flickr - instead of Google's in
       | recent years. I'm still using Gmail because changing my primary
       | email seems like it would be a pain, but at least I can see that
       | there are some strong competitors for email. Voice, on the other
       | hand, seems like a pretty unique offering.
        
         | berdon wrote:
         | Fwiw, I switched from gmail two years ago and it was relatively
         | painless. It took a couple hours and there were a handful of
         | websites that didn't allow changing emails (as usernames) but
         | otherwise it was fine. And worth it to no longer get spam.
        
         | esnowrackley wrote:
         | Voice was a mainstay for me for a long time. The closest
         | replacement I could find was a service called OpenPhone[1].
         | It's designed as a VoIP service for small business teams, but
         | I'm finding it works great as a solo voice/text option. I was
         | able to port the Voice number over.
         | 
         | [1] https://www.openphone.com/
        
       | alexwennerberg wrote:
       | Any ideas for Calender alternatives?
        
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