[HN Gopher] The FBI's Contract to Buy Mass Internet Data ___________________________________________________________________ The FBI's Contract to Buy Mass Internet Data Author : leotravis10 Score : 116 points Date : 2023-03-27 19:34 UTC (3 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.vice.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.vice.com) | advisedwang wrote: | Which ISPs are giving our traffic data to Team Cymru? We need | them named and shamed. | soupfordummies wrote: | Absolutely agree. However, even then, what am I gonna do, go to | the ONE other alternative in my neighborhood? | greyface- wrote: | The document: | https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23722785/fbi-team-cym... | worrycue wrote: | I wonder if this will be the silver lining of AI-generated spam. | Online information might plummet in value due to reduced signal- | noise ratio. People will become harder to read and manipulate. | ShamelessC wrote: | People don't care enough for it to matter. | costco wrote: | It's only $35k a month? I think we can all assume that basically | any government has this now. | kube-system wrote: | Or criminal group, blackmailers and harassers, private industry | looking to extract more money from you, etc. | Syonyk wrote: | Of course they did. And they'll keep doing it, because they can. | And because knowledge like that is power, and they like power. | | At this point, you can safely assume that anything muttered by a | "tin foil hat nutter" sort in about 2005-2010 about the internet, | computers, three letter agencies, and the like is correct. It's | sure heading in that direction. | mattpallissard wrote: | > At this point, you can safely assume that anything muttered | by a "tin foil hat nutter" sort in about 2005-2010 about the | internet, computers, three letter agencies, and the like is | correct. | | As one of the few software/tech guys for hundreds of miles I | get a lot of "I suspect they're doing X, but that's probably | not even possible". In regards to BigBrother/BigCo. | | I correct them all. Not possible, probable. | LesZedCB wrote: | good thing everything is hidden cleverly behind this | impenetrable username! | fallingknife wrote: | It's time to think about extending certain constitutional | restrictions to corporations. It's becoming all to common that | the government contracts out its rights violations to the private | sector. | [deleted] | DueDilligence wrote: | [dead] | [deleted] | cronix wrote: | Oh, you mean ISP's sell data to whoever has money to buy it, | including the FBI. | justapassenger wrote: | "Mass Internet Data" and $35k per month? | | Anyone who dealt with government contracts and/or internet knows | that those 2 statements don't align in any way. This data has to | be extremely, extremely, extremely limited and/or useless. | spydum wrote: | I have had access to this type of data before commercially for | purpose. It's useful for knowing "who" has established | connections to "who", but at just an IP level. Powerful for | combining with other analysis on either the sender or receiver. | You won't know what they said, but you know what ports they | used. | | So if I see a sudden spike in IP addresses geocoded as being in | the United States, and the destination is an unusual but | specific port hosted in Belarus, it might be worth looking at a | new C2 malware. | justapassenger wrote: | Yeah, I know those types of datasets. | | But did you see data, sold for $35k, to a government? I | didn't, but I'm fairly confident in assuming it doesn't have | much in it. | xfitm3 wrote: | Ah yes, at my company many years ago we sold data to law | enforcement when they didn't have a warrant but had a case | someone really wanted to pursue. They were happy to pay quite | high prices, and on a semi regular basis because we were a large | "small business" that handled a lot of data. | | We'd allow them to come in and image disks, span ports, modify | software, you name it. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-03-27 23:00 UTC)