[HN Gopher] The Shaman's Secrets
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The Shaman's Secrets
Author : drdee
Score : 30 points
Date : 2023-03-28 05:51 UTC (17 hours ago)
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| corry wrote:
| One is struck by the sheer raw amount of time that this woman was
| separated from us (9,000 years). How many hundreds or thousands
| of generations of our ancestors lived in this almost completely
| different world?
|
| And how advanced our technology is to determine so much about
| her.
|
| But perhaps the biggest mind-blower is that -- against this
| backdrop of 9,000 years, where there was very little change in
| technology -- in a few decades our modern technology progressed
| so quickly from her first discovery to now to learn so much about
| her.
|
| We can barely comprehend the rate of change we're seeing compared
| to the eons before. And today we're seeing AI burst on the scene,
| a few decades since we started digitizing information. Wild
| stuff. I wonder how far we'll get before I die.
| mistermann wrote:
| I bet we won't get far enough that we stop killing each other
| on a regular basis for not very good reasons.
|
| Science is fantastic in the physical world, but it seems to
| have not very much utility in the metaphysical world. Shame
| it's almost the only tool that most everyone (right thinking
| people anyways) places their faith in.
| giraffe_lady wrote:
| Aren't like 80% of all people religious? Kinda shitty to
| casually dismiss them all as not right thinking imo. Many
| (most?) of the greatest scientific discoveries have been made
| by people who put their faith in something other than or in
| addition to science itself.
| atoav wrote:
| > Aren't like 80% of all people religious?
|
| You mean they have a confession? That is not the same thing
| as being religious. I for example have been born into a
| confession and till I went through the not uncomplicated
| act of leaving church I would have been counted as
| religious. I have been an atheist since I was 12 or so.
| mistermann wrote:
| > Kinda shitty to casually dismiss them all as not right
| thinking imo.
|
| It is indeed, but being religious myself, it ain't me who
| does this.
|
| If it was done on valid grounds, fair enough (it's not
| _only_ the impoliteness that bothers me), but it rarely is
| in my experience.
|
| > Many (most?) of the greatest scientific discoveries have
| been made by people who put their faith in something other
| than or in addition to science itself.
|
| And then there's non-scientific studies that have been, _or
| not made_ , because we've "decided" as a culture to pour
| all our money into peering ever deeper into the macro and
| micro of physical reality, ignoring metaphysical reality
| (while complaining about it endlessly, like during COVID,
| where "Trust The Science" was the motto, that failed
| spectacularly, in ways that will pay negative dividends for
| years to come).
| giraffe_lady wrote:
| Ah I see what you mean now, I think I misunderstood what
| you were saying a bit.
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