[HN Gopher] Show HN: An all-in-one app designed for deep work an...
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Show HN: An all-in-one app designed for deep work and to build
atomic habits
Author : daniel_sushil
Score : 46 points
Date : 2023-03-28 12:42 UTC (10 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.floutwork.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.floutwork.com)
| ryanwaggoner wrote:
| I have mild to moderate ADHD, and in the long run, I haven't
| found any tools that try and "get in my way" to block distraction
| to be that helpful. No tool can save me from myself, and they
| usually end up interfering with my "productivity" in the process.
| For example, with this tool, what happens when I need to use a
| browser extension, or look up something from a random website, or
| research something on HN or Reddit? What happens if I need to use
| the terminal, or message my partner? And then aside from all
| that, how does it protect me from just turning to something else
| (phone) to feed my need for distraction?
|
| So while things like this can have some benefit, no productivity
| tool can come close to touching the things that have _really_
| helped me: therapy, meditation, psychedelics, self-compassion,
| medication, and some books that helped me see "productivity"
| through a new lens and recognize the pathological relationship
| with myself that it was keeping me trapped in.
|
| Books I recommend:
|
| 1. Four Thousand Weeks by Burkeman
|
| 2. Self Compassion by Neff
|
| 3. The Now Habit by Fiore
|
| If you can only read one, read 4000 Weeks. Game changer.
| nvarsj wrote:
| I think there's definitely room for tools. But they have to
| discourage distraction, somehow.
|
| Personally I took one look at this Show HN and knew it wasn't
| for me. Too many things going on in one window - I'd find that
| very distracting and it would make it hard for me to focus.
|
| For me, I have to explicitly do things that reduce distraction.
| On OS X, this means having a virtual desktop just for work, for
| example. Browser only for reference pages. Then another desktop
| which has all my super distracting things, like
| calendar/outlook/browser/chat. And I force myself to stay on
| the work desktop when doing work things.
|
| What I have been looking for is a simple task tracker. This
| does help! Unfortunately I haven't found anything perfect on OS
| X yet. On Linux, I found the flowtime [1] app worked really
| well.
|
| All it needs to do is: - Let me enter a task
| I'm working on - Track how long I work on it
|
| That's it. Just the simple action of entering the task and
| clicking start seems to help kick my brain into focus mode.
|
| 1: https://github.com/Diego-Ivan/Flowtime
| 650REDHAIR wrote:
| This looks neat, but there's no world in which I start using this
| product without knowing the price.
|
| Too much of a commitment to add this to my routine to find out
| you're charging $50/mo and require an annual plan or something.
| daniel_sushil wrote:
| Thanks for checking out our app! We recently updated our
| subscription pricing page to provide more transparency around
| our pricing model. We're currently considering a plan starting
| at $5/month, but we want to hear from you - what price point
| would be fair for the value you're getting? We're open to
| feedback and committed to providing affordable options for all
| users. Looking forward to hearing from you!
| inconceivable wrote:
| quite honestly HN is the last place you want to do market
| research on pricing. the income distribution is skewed
| extremely low and extremely high and attitudes on paying for
| anything do not reflect market reality, largely due to
| ideological dispositions.
| _jcrossley wrote:
| Apologies if this is uncouth, but if anyone wants the opposite of
| this product, check out Pixelist on the App Store: it's a 100%
| free and private, extremely minimalist habit tracker. I'm
| terrible at marketing (my Show HN had zero response) but it's had
| a growing organic user base that seems to love it.
| [deleted]
| Neff wrote:
| One thing that may help is standing up a simple product landing
| page to describe what the product is and linking off to the app
| store.
|
| When I tried to search just for "Pixelist" on DDG I didn't see
| the app on the first page. Once I added iOS then it was
| findable.
|
| Your app seems really neat. It reminds me of the everyday
| calendar that Simone Giertz made.
| _jcrossley wrote:
| Thanks so much - you're right, I think it's about time to
| finally create a product page. Also thanks for the pointer,
| the everyday calendar looks great!
| TurkishPoptart wrote:
| Looks cool but what do the different colors mean? Hard to
| follow.
| _jcrossley wrote:
| 100% up to you. All of my habits are different, but usually
| for me it's something like "I did it / I did it well / I did
| it great".
| Birkeholm wrote:
| Kudos on the app. It looks and feels great.
|
| May I suggest to add a 'long press' on the theme to lock it?
| MattDemers wrote:
| Thank you; finding a habit tracker on IOS that isn't juiced to
| the gills with social and/or subscription features is
| impossible.
| JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote:
| I would love to see the source code of this application, but
| even if you can't or don't want to open-source it, it's a fun
| application.
| gen_greyface wrote:
| The app's size is 25mb,seems a bit much for minimalist app.
| what did you use to build it.
| _jcrossley wrote:
| Hm, I'm not sure what adds up to 25MB but overall it's very
| lean on dependencies - essentially just RxSwift. It might
| also be the Swift runtime, which used to be bundled into
| binaries before ABI stability.
| goldtownjac wrote:
| This is exactly what I've been looking for on so many levels.
| +1 user.
| [deleted]
| StrangeATractor wrote:
| Tickmate was something I used for a long time, but Google says
| it's too old for my Android. =(
|
| https://github.com/lordi/tickmate
| petr24 wrote:
| I am definitely a ghost user of hacker news, but I had to
| comment on this. What a great app. Great work and thank you!
| _jcrossley wrote:
| Thanks! Really appreciate it <3
| littlelady wrote:
| It looks really nice! I'm looking for an app to replace my
| current tracking system.
|
| If I may give some feedback: when editing the name of the
| habit, could you please insert the habit name string into the
| text field? Completely retyping it is a bit cumbersome.
| _jcrossley wrote:
| Wow, thank you! It's been years since I've touched the app,
| and I would've sworn it already did that. Will dust it off!
| emerongi wrote:
| I noticed that if you drag a habit to the last position,
| but a little bit too far, the app crashes. Excellent app
| otherwise, I really like the simplicity! :)
| _jcrossley wrote:
| Awesome!! Thanks for finding that, I was wondering where
| the (very few) daily crashes are coming from. And thanks,
| hope it's useful for you!
| tachim wrote:
| Tough to use this without a way to export data.
| _jcrossley wrote:
| I've had several requests for this. If/when I pick it up,
| it's on the shortlist :)
| isanjay wrote:
| No Android version?
| _jcrossley wrote:
| Not yet :( But maybe with GPT4!
| gman83 wrote:
| Try Loop Habit Tracker.
| humanlion87 wrote:
| +1 to this. Simple, no gimmicks and gets the job done.
| _jcrossley wrote:
| +1, I've heard great things and I don't think I should try
| to compete
| choilive wrote:
| no intel mac support? :(
| adolph wrote:
| Does it have a URL scheme to note execution of habits?
| _jcrossley wrote:
| It doesn't, but that's a clever idea!
| pirate787 wrote:
| There's a real market for this, and this is a really ambitious
| app. So much so that I'm very skeptical it will work without
| significant resources behind it. So you'd need to overcome that
| for me, as well as privacy concerns, by disclosing a lot more
| about the company an the codebase.
|
| Also the name is confusing, Flout is kind of the opposite of
| Focus Work.
| daniel_sushil wrote:
| Hey @drewg123, thanks for taking the time to check out our app
| and share your thoughts. We agree that the productivity market
| is huge, and that's why we're passionate about creating an
| ambitious app that meets the needs of modern professionals. We
| understand that building such a comprehensive productivity
| platform requires significant resources, and we're committed to
| continuing to improve Floutwork over time. Regarding privacy
| concerns, we have a dedicated page on our website that outlines
| our privacy policy in detail. Additionally, we are always open
| to answering questions and providing more information as
| needed. As for the name Floutwork, we understand that it may be
| confusing. The name Flout is actually meant to convey "flouting
| the rules of modern work", but we understand that it may be
| interpreted differently. We appreciate your feedback. Thanks
| again for your interest in Floutwork!
| teach wrote:
| I guess they say to launch before you think you're ready.
| mucle6 wrote:
| So a window manager with metrics? Looks interesting
| redmattred wrote:
| Looks pretty slick.
|
| When I click "Download macOS App" it downloads an .exe file.
| [deleted]
| tony_cannistra wrote:
| This surprised me too, and not in a good way. I got that scary
| old feeling from the early-2000s when a surprise exe appeared.
| tough wrote:
| Yeah, it loads a download windows button too but links to the
| same sketchy dropbox download link.
|
| I'd be wary of installing random apps nowadays with crypto
| hacks and what not. I guess I need to think twice before
| doing so.
| daniel_sushil wrote:
| Thanks for letting us know about the download issue - we've
| fixed the problem and you can now download the Mac version
| without any problems. If you have any further issues,
| please let us know. Thanks for your support!
| JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote:
| >Link temporarily disabled
|
| Dropbox has not disabled your downloads, can't you host
| it yourself?
| daniel_sushil wrote:
| Hey JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B, we're sorry that you experienced
| issues downloading our app from Dropbox. We believe the
| issue has now been resolved, and you should be able to
| download it without any further problems. Thanks for your
| patience! And yes, we're definitely going to look into
| hosting it ourselves!
| maxfurman wrote:
| Looks like Dropbox has rate-limited your download link
| daniel_sushil wrote:
| Hey maxfurman, thanks for bringing this to our attention. We're
| sorry that you experienced issues downloading our app from
| Dropbox. We believe the issue has now been resolved, and you
| should be able to download it without any further problems. If
| you encounter any more issues, please let us know. Thanks for
| your patience!
| zenkat wrote:
| I love the concept! Modern interrupt-driven workflows are
| horrible if you want to get real work done, designing for focus
| time is a great idea.
|
| How is it with privacy, PII, and sensitive data? Is all
| processing done locally, or is data uploaded into the cloud?
| daniel_sushil wrote:
| Hi Zenkat, thanks for your interest in Floutwork! We take
| privacy seriously and have a detailed privacy policy that
| outlines our commitment to protecting our users' information.
| You can find it here: https://www.floutwork.com/privacy-policy.
| If you have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to
| reach out - we're always happy to provide more information and
| ensure that our users are comfortable with our practices.
| Thanks again for your support!
| qwertyuiop_ wrote:
| Great job on AI voice blended with Fivver graphics. Got my
| attention :)
| dhruvarora013 wrote:
| Interesting. Is this basically a browser that's focused on
| productivity? Seems like it's just adding different sites as
| "apps" that I can switch between?
| daniel_sushil wrote:
| Hey dhruvarora013, thanks for your question! Floutwork does
| indeed have an in-app browser that makes switching between apps
| and managing tabs a breeze, but it's much more than that.
| Floutwork is an all-in-one productivity system that brings
| together all your work essentials into one platform. Our
| powerful built-in Tasks app helps you track your goals and
| tasks, while our built-in apps for Notes and Emails streamline
| your workflow. Our command bar keeps you focused by helping you
| stay on track with your work, without losing context. Our
| built-in productivity tracker monitors and improves your
| productivity habits, while our gamified system helps you stay
| motivated by completing 3 productivity goals (like the rings in
| Apple Watch) every day. It has a lot more functionality that
| you can checkout from floutwork.com that really upgrades your
| productivity game. We'd love for you to give Floutwork a try
| and let us know what you think!
| CE02 wrote:
| My issue is that with productivity theres a big factor of "good
| data in good data out". If a system is too overdesigned it often
| gets underutilized. I used to have complicated setups for my
| "productivity" but honestly I've paired it down to one google
| sheets time tracker with a few fancy features like time
| predicting on projects but not much.. and google calendar. It
| wasn't until I reduced my tools that my productivity increases.
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| I worry that overanalyzing productivity will innevitably lead
| people to forget the 1 rule of "do less".
| daniel_sushil wrote:
| Hey CEO2, I totally understand where you're coming from. There
| are a whole bunch of "productivity tools" out there. Many
| people try to stitch together multiple productivity apps in an
| attempt to improve their productivity. Floutwork is trying to
| solve that problem by bringing it all together into a single
| "work system" that helps you focus on your work, rather than
| the tools. It's designed to help you be productive by default,
| and you really need to go out of your way to be distracted. We
| would love for you to try it out and let us know what you
| think."
| CE02 wrote:
| Hey Daniel, hope all is well. I completely understand and I'm
| sure I'll check it out at some point. I'm just saying in my
| experience I've yet to find a tool that justifies adding yet
| another tool in this space.
| spiffytech wrote:
| This is why I like Mark Forster's productivity systems.
|
| They're built around giving minimal structure to your
| intuition, rather than trying to comprehensively analyze your
| situation.
| CE02 wrote:
| I'll have to check it out, haven't seen any of his work! I
| based my current system off of Cal Newports work. I basically
| intentionally designed and overly comprehensive and overly
| complicated system and paired it back until I had a good
| balance of inputs and outputs!
| KingOfCoders wrote:
| Subscription pricing. No thanks, I'll keep using Notepad++ with
| two panes, one for writing and one for todos.
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