[HN Gopher] Sex and the citizenship process
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       Sex and the citizenship process
        
       Author : akiselev
       Score  : 28 points
       Date   : 2023-03-29 19:47 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (lux-magazine.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (lux-magazine.com)
        
       | robertwt7 wrote:
       | > Now, submitting graphic materials like this is generally a bad
       | idea.
       | 
       | No shit, what are these people thinking? after all of the years
       | of hardwork to get the citizenship, they would just send it for
       | what? for fun??
        
         | dangerlibrary wrote:
         | Literally the next paragraph:
         | 
         | "The fact is, the government does tend to view certain types of
         | unions as more "legitimate" and certain types of spouses more
         | worthy of citizenship. "Expectations of sexual intimacy are
         | implicit in all of the laws around family reunification for
         | [mixed-status] couples, and I think some couples try to make it
         | explicit in order to demonstrate the legitimacy of their
         | relationship," said Jane Lilly Lopez, a sociologist at Brigham
         | Young University and the author of Unauthorized Love: Mixed-
         | Citizenship Couples Negotiating Intimacy, Immigration, and the
         | State.
         | 
         | Is it any wonder that couples misread the subtext and send in
         | NSFW stuff?"
        
         | vkou wrote:
         | > they would just send it for what? for fun??
         | 
         | USCIS instructs you to provide proof that you're in a 'real'
         | relationship, and half the people in the world are below-
         | average at exercising good judgement... Or at parsing weird
         | written and unwritten bureaucratic rules.
        
           | grecy wrote:
           | So, ah, how would a person who is above-average prove they're
           | in a "sufficiently committed" relationship?
        
         | jMyles wrote:
         | > No shit, what are these people thinking? after all of the
         | years of hardwork to get the citizenship, they would just send
         | it for what? for fun??
         | 
         | The article dances around the subject a bit, but I think that
         | the answer to your question is still clear:
         | 
         | They do it because, in their minds (and let's face it, they're
         | not wrong) it will undercut questions about whether they are
         | serious about their claims to be in a consummated marriage,
         | which is the legal requirement.
         | 
         | And, as the article points out, this tactic does sometimes work
         | (which is also not a surprise).
         | 
         | I don't understand criticizing the people submitting what is
         | common-sense evidence of what the system requires. If you want
         | the "porn" to stop, then change the system.
        
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