[HN Gopher] NYPD blues: Cops ignored 93 percent of surveillance ...
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       NYPD blues: Cops ignored 93 percent of surveillance law rules
        
       Author : rntn
       Score  : 66 points
       Date   : 2023-03-31 21:58 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (www.theregister.com)
        
       | EngManagerIsMe wrote:
       | Anyone who has been watching cops over the past few decades
       | shouldn't find this at all surprising. Cops consistently believe
       | themselves to be above the law and above oversight -- especially
       | the NYPD, but the problem is in every precinct around the
       | country.
       | 
       | It's all cops.
        
         | jMyles wrote:
         | Right.
         | 
         | So, next steps: we need the resumption of an informed,
         | responsible, caring abolitionist movement, with careful and
         | clear advocacy around how we envision public safety and the
         | rule of law happening once we end this disastrous experiment of
         | professional policing.
         | 
         | We need to celebrate that the information age brings with it
         | difficult-to-refute witness in every pocket in the form of a
         | camera, and an easy-to-activate alarm in the form of a phone.
         | 
         | Seriously - it's a great time to complete the half-measure that
         | concluded the American Civil War and finally end what we once
         | called slave-patrols-and-plantations and which we now call
         | police-and-prisons. There is an obvious better way, especially
         | now.
        
       | dmix wrote:
       | It always amazes me there isn't a publicly accountable oversight
       | committee that comes with every major privacy violating power.
       | The courts alone aren't sufficent. And secret courts like FISA
       | that are only selectively required are doubly insufficient.
        
         | yieldcrv wrote:
         | various municipalities enact oversight committees as a "gotcha"
         | to rogue police departments
         | 
         | all that happens is that the oversight committee doesn't get
         | information shared to them
         | 
         | there are other solutions
        
       | greenyoda wrote:
       | Previous discussion:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35387000
        
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