[HN Gopher] PDF ChatBot - Upload, chat and interact with any PDF...
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PDF ChatBot - Upload, chat and interact with any PDF document
Author : armcat
Score : 45 points
Date : 2023-04-03 20:01 UTC (2 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (askyourpdf.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (askyourpdf.com)
| da4id wrote:
| Just wanted to share my project too. I made a tutorial on how you
| can build the same thing here:
|
| https://docs.dopplerai.com/quick-start
| isuckatcoding wrote:
| I've tried two similar services and for some reason both of them
| cap at 200pages. What's your limit?
| carlgreene wrote:
| Looks like 200 pages :(.
| _pdp_ wrote:
| Try unlimited pages at chatbotkit.com - there is 1,000,000
| cap on the tokens though. Still more than all other services.
| wubbert wrote:
| [dead]
| agumonkey wrote:
| Kinda like have the author at your fingertips
| rockzom wrote:
| (((:::)))
| jrpt wrote:
| Nice, I made one too:
|
| https://docalysis.com/
|
| My take on this space is that it'll eventually be built into the
| operating system or PDF viewers, so you're going to have to do
| more than just "chat with a PDF" -- but that chatting with PDFs
| is a great place to get started!
| bodge5000 wrote:
| I had an idea to do something like this combined with something
| like Zeal or DevDocs so you can have a kind of chatGPT localised
| just to your specific language or framework. But I guess this
| does just that job, but in a far more general way
| Yackson0031 wrote:
| Yea AskYourPdf is also multilingual.
| dgco wrote:
| Just install Edge, sidebar Bing Chat with your PDF opened, ask
| your questions. You're welcome.
| https://twitter.com/sergeykarayev/status/1640764492018765824
| lxe wrote:
| I'm guessing langchain / llamaindex + openai API?
| iKlsR wrote:
| PDF chatbots are the new equivalent of todo apps...
| https://custombot.ai/. No doubt cool but loses the lustre after
| you've seen the umpteenth one that passes on the token cost to
| you and still hallucinates.
| rvz wrote:
| Almost all of them do the exact same thing and it is completely
| saturated with these websites looking very similar akin to a
| copy and paste job.
|
| There is nothing new or unique about any of them other than a
| new AI snake-oil to push their new grift on to users uploading
| sensitive PDFs to 'chat' with their document as 'the future'.
|
| Another race to the bottom until Microsoft Word or Google Docs
| releases the exact same thing for free and unlimited tokens.
| cloudking wrote:
| Has anyone ever had a problem they needed to solve by asking
| their PDF a question?
| kolinko wrote:
| Terms of service for various companies and other long and
| boring documents.
|
| My real estate agent wanted me to sign up a document that is
| 10 pages long. I would prefer to use the bot to answer my
| questions, and possibly - verify with other legal things.
|
| Tried the document with the service (after removing personal
| info), and it worked so-so. Could specify which paragraphs
| mention the commission, but couldn't extract info about how
| high the commission is.
|
| Perhaps it's because the document is in Polish. But GPT-3.5
| or 4 shouldn't have a problem with such queries.
| taf2 wrote:
| PDFs sure are annoying when you want to quickly jump through
| the docs... but really I wonder how this will do once gpt4
| api supports images ... maybe then it can help me understand
| electronic data sheets... cause I'm still trying to figure
| out was pin 0 the sdl or sda pin... and was vcc 3.3 or 1.8
| volts...
| yakubin wrote:
| ,,What do I need to learn to understand you?"
| bowmessage wrote:
| Could be useful for a PDF textbook, perhaps?
| Lapsa wrote:
| why would you want to chat and interact with a PDF document?
| sporkl wrote:
| Doesn't seem to work well for music scores :(
|
| Tangentially, I haven't been able to find any software which has
| reliable OCR for music scores; they tend to be just bad enough as
| to be useless. Was curious if any recent AI developments could be
| applied to this, but don't have the expertise to look into this
| myself. If anyone has any thoughts or wants to look into this,
| please feel free to email me! (link to my website in profile,
| which has my email)
| thinkmassive wrote:
| Have you tried Audiveris?
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| https://audiveris.github.io/audiveris/_pages/handbook/
|
| I haven't tried it but my first thought was to use something
| like tesseract OCR, and I found this optical music recognition
| (OMR) project from there.
| anonymouse008 wrote:
| How does this work? Do you first scrape the PDF or do you have
| gpt4 multimodal access? The privacy policy link is broken at the
| moment so I can't tell for sure
| jrpt wrote:
| I can't answer for theirs but I made one too:
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| https://docalysis.com/
|
| The way it works is you first parse the PDF to analyze its
| text, then use a LLM along with the relevant text when
| answering user questions.
| laen wrote:
| Can you elaborate on how you parse the PDF? Are you simply
| converting it to text using a python library or something
| more robust like GROBID[1]?
|
| 1: https://github.com/kermitt2/grobid
| Yackson0031 wrote:
| You just upload your pdf doc directly or via a url and you are
| good to go.
| jimjimjim wrote:
| Interesting, but how many people are going to upload things they
| really shouldn't?
|
| ...
|
| You retain ownership of any PDF documents you upload to
| AskYourPdf. By uploading PDF documents to AskYourPdf, you grant
| AskYourPdf a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to
| use, modify, reproduce, and distribute the PDF documents for the
| purpose of providing the AskYourPdf web application
|
| ...
| aaronharnly wrote:
| Yikes.
| Spivak wrote:
| That is the legal jargon required for them to ingest, index,
| and display the PDF you upload back to you.
| ke88y wrote:
| It is legal jargon that gives them the right to do that,
| but it also gives them a lot of other rights. If they only
| wanted to display the PDF back to you, they could affect
| that meaning very easily.
| meltedcapacitor wrote:
| bad actors are not gonna be stopped by their own "legal
| jargon"... the terms look like copy pasta or AI generated
| themselves. can't imagine the operators spent much time
| reading them.
|
| though maybe true bad actors would try harder to pretend
| being a company with some humans involved, rather than
| this openly anonymous site.
| Bjartr wrote:
| > they could affect that meaning very easily.
|
| Not using phrasing thst has already been tested in court
| is easy, but fraught. If someone sues you because of a
| reasonable thing you did to display a document and you
| have this phrasing. It's open and shut because someone
| else has already litigated it and so there's legal
| precedent. If you use different phrasing and someone sues
| you, there's a greater chance you'll have an actual drawn
| out court case to convince a judge that your phrasing
| means what you wanted it to mean. Remember, the meaning
| of words and phrases in a legal context can differ almost
| arbitrarily from what they mean in a conversational one.
|
| As a business owner that just wants to get on and provide
| a service that displays a pdf you got sent, which do you
| go with, the one that lets your resources go to providing
| the service you intend to provide, or the one where
| there's a greater chance your resources will get tied up
| in a legal battle for the sake of making the terms almost
| no-one reads anyway a little nicer?
| tiedieconderoga wrote:
| Since you mention it, I have heard several of my friends and
| colleagues saying that they think ChatGPT could be their
| lawyer, doctor, and tax prep advisor if only they could send it
| documents for review.
| xkcd-sucks wrote:
| > purpose of providing the AskYourPdf web application
|
| For the purpose of funding it as a free service by selling
| upload content or derived metrics :)
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