[HN Gopher] System76 Open Firmware
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System76 Open Firmware
Author : doener
Score : 169 points
Date : 2023-04-03 20:52 UTC (2 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
| ahoya wrote:
| Catching up with Star Labs which has had monthly firmware updates
| for my 12th gen intel for some time through fwupd
| mattanimation wrote:
| System76 and Framework should merge, then we can have the best of
| the best
| cbsmith wrote:
| I think it's great that they're competing with each other.
| MuffinFlavored wrote:
| Is the market they are in big enough for that?
|
| by the way, your username makes me think of
| https://www.broward.org/Parks/Pages/park.aspx?park=5
| teawrecks wrote:
| That is a worry I have, but on the other hand, more pro RTR
| brands out there is more opportunities to win over
| customers.
|
| I had a galago ultrapro 10 years ago. Loved it, loved
| system 76's support for it (they shipped everyone a
| replacement keyboard at no cost simply because they weren't
| happy with the one it launched with). The only part I
| didn't like was the plastic body which saw a lot of wear
| and tear. But the laptop is still working fine.
|
| Now I have a framework. The first touchpad on mine had
| issues. Wasn't registering clicks unless I pressed really
| hard. They shipped me a replacement, I swapped it out
| myself and shipped them back the defective one at no cost
| to me.
|
| I wish both companies the best, but yeah I do hope there is
| enough business out there for them both.
| hackerfactor1 wrote:
| I have been so incredibly impressed by System76. Professional,
| easy to work with, open source, and great quality. I used to run
| a Dell-only shop, but my last few systems have been System76.
| (Oh, and they don't spam you ever few months like Dell.)
|
| Not a paid advertiser. Just a very happy customer.
| piloto_ciego wrote:
| Bought a meerkat mini last year - I freaking love it. System76
| is amazing and I thoroughly am happy with my purchase.
| amir734jj wrote:
| The same. I had a great experience with them + PopOS is great.
| Ologn wrote:
| Have bought from System76 for years, got a Thelio desktop a
| year and a half ago that I have been happy with (I run Ubuntu,
| not PopOS). My Nvidia card only has 12 gigs VRAM but I have had
| it grinding away on Stable Diffusion, LLAMA etc.
| purpleidea wrote:
| We want this in LVFS. https://fwupd.org/
| amir734jj wrote:
| So this means I should buy my next laptop from this list if I
| want a proper Linux support.
| ahoya wrote:
| Yes.
| MuffinFlavored wrote:
| > LVFS
|
| > Linux Vendor Firmware Service
|
| https://fwupd.org/
|
| had not heard of it, for anybody else
| mistrial9 wrote:
| ok - if it tells the owner what it is doing, and what is inside
| right? oh and the owner can turn it off too ?
| its-summertime wrote:
| https://github.com/system76/firmware-open/issues/289#issueco...
| felixg3 wrote:
| I immediately thought about Open Firmware as the bios competitor
| in SPARC and PowerPC. It's been a few years since I've used it,
| the last time was trying to boot from USB on a 2005 iMac G5.
| sneak wrote:
| More context would be helpful. Are the model identifiers listed
| in the README the current top-spec machines, or older ones, or
| discontinued? What does "open firmware" mean in this context? Is
| it possible to boot these machines free of proprietary blobs
| entirely? I was under the impression that's not strictly possible
| given that the Intel ME needs at least the minimal/neuter/HA
| firmware blob to not forcibly power off the system shortly after
| boot.
| doener wrote:
| "System76 Open Firmware consists of multiple projects under
| different licenses.
|
| [...]
|
| Intel CSME Proprietary Intel FSP Proprietary Intel microcode
| Proprietary"
|
| https://github.com/system76/firmware-open/blob/master/LICENS...
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