[HN Gopher] FBI Seizes Bot Shop 'Genesis Market' Amid Arrests Ta...
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       FBI Seizes Bot Shop 'Genesis Market' Amid Arrests Targeting
       Operators, Suppliers
        
       Author : todsacerdoti
       Score  : 95 points
       Date   : 2023-04-04 21:06 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (krebsonsecurity.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (krebsonsecurity.com)
        
       | jjcm wrote:
       | Interestingly, CenturyLink wont even let me visit the site.
       | There's a "Continue to Site" button, but it does nothing.
        
       | paulpauper wrote:
       | _Genesis Market provided access to a wide list of services with
       | user accounts from all over the world. Among them were Gmail,
       | Facebook, Netflix, Spotify, WordPress, PayPal, Reddit, Amazon,
       | LinkedIn, Cloudflare, Twitter, Zoom, and Ebay._
       | 
       | This is why 'strong passwords' will never be good enough when
       | hackers simply control the actual session
        
         | Kenji wrote:
         | [dead]
        
       | javajosh wrote:
       | So, as a web programmer, I'd like to infer how this data got into
       | the marketplace in the first place. The offerings are all powered
       | by browser data exfiltration! Which means their vector is another
       | process on the host, or it could be a malicious browser
       | extension, or a resource 0-day. Or the tokens could be
       | exfiltrated from from the server-side, too.)
       | 
       | Does anyone know how they get this data?
        
       | consumer451 wrote:
       | I wonder why Spain and Poland topped the list of bots.
        
       | legitimayzer wrote:
       | I feel safer and better about the future already, thanks for the
       | good work guys!
       | 
       | this kind of access to hacking should be reserved only for the
       | legitimate institutions of civilized society.
        
         | JohnFen wrote:
         | In other words, it should be legitimayzed?
        
       | trulynissin wrote:
       | Honestly surprised that this site was able to function
       | undisputed, entirely on the public internet for this long despite
       | it's entirely illegal nature.
        
         | Panino wrote:
         | It looks like before the seizure, they had Chinese DNS (dnspod)
         | and Russian web hosting (CLOUDX-AS, RU).
        
         | bennyg wrote:
         | I work, kind of, in this space - and it's been wild to me how
         | incredibly easy it is to embed myself into public Discord
         | servers that offer fraud/abuse bots. That might speak to the
         | sophistication of what I find (vs. groups with better OpSec). I
         | agree though, I'm surprised this was operated on the public
         | internet with a great domain name.
        
       | nostromo wrote:
       | I love these silly FBI "teenage boy badass" images they put up
       | after they seize a website:
       | 
       | https://genesis.market/
       | 
       | The FBI agent in a hoodie, eating a cookie while hacking into the
       | Matrix is just too good.
        
         | CTDOCodebases wrote:
         | It reminds me of the Phineas Fisher quote:
         | 
         | "...Hacker culture was born in the US as a counterculture, but
         | that origin only remains in its aesthetics -- the rest has been
         | assimilated. At least they can wear a t-shirt, dye their hair
         | blue, use their hacker names, and feel like rebels while they
         | work for the Man."
        
         | boomboomsubban wrote:
         | At first glance, it looks like they have twenty sponsors
         | donating for them to host some kind of public hackathon.
        
           | [deleted]
        
         | pph wrote:
         | Also a typo in the alt text & wonky css that leads to weird
         | stretching when the aspect ratio is not the same as the
         | intern's who put up the page.
        
         | PrufferFrish wrote:
         | Looks great on mobile, too. https://ibb.co/hBG7sgL
        
           | capableweb wrote:
           | Seemingly both their graphic designers and web developers
           | (probably call them "webmasters") are stuck in the 90s
           | judging by the source.
        
             | cuttysnark wrote:
             | The content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" was
             | interesting to me since I'm so used to seeing utf-8. Caring
             | about charset seemingly makes little sense here, given
             | everything is embedded into the image. I wonder if this
             | page was created by a generator.
        
         | tenpies wrote:
         | I love the random Canadian flag in there, because apparently
         | every other country's police forces' crest should be
         | recognizable to everyone on the internet, but the Canadians
         | ones are just too obscure.
        
           | dragonwriter wrote:
           | I suspect the block with the Canadian Flag, RCMP logo, and
           | _Surete de Quebec_ logo were placed as a block at the request
           | of the cooperating Canadian agencies together as their logo
           | for Canada's involvement, and that the Canadian flag is not
           | placed there because the FBI is singling Canada out
           | differently.
        
           | pakyr wrote:
           | The RCMP and Quebec Provincial Police logos are also there to
           | the left of the flag, just way smaller than they need to be.
        
         | grenoire wrote:
         | Looks almost like they're pretending to have been seized for an
         | April Fool's joke.
        
         | asdff wrote:
         | All the logos on this make it look like they are sponsoring a
         | 5k race.
        
         | doublerabbit wrote:
         | I was hoping for there to be a recruitment link in the source
         | code. None, only clean HTML.
        
           | capableweb wrote:
           | Images can have data "hidden" inside of them, just so you
           | know :)
        
           | mike_d wrote:
           | There is very obviously a recruitment link there. Look again.
           | 
           | Hint: It is above the image data.
        
             | cuttysnark wrote:
             | That's not "hidden" though, it's the alt text that also
             | appears verbatim on the image itself.
        
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