[HN Gopher] Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch
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       Fullscreen apps above the MacBook notch
        
       Author : alin23
       Score  : 29 points
       Date   : 2023-04-12 20:12 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | ThorsBane wrote:
       | My 16" MBP would be a perfect device if they could either put the
       | webcam/sensor array behind the glass or just get rid of it. If I
       | want to FaceTime I can use an iPad or iPhone as a peripheral
       | attachment. At this point, virtually perfect hardware is being
       | ruined by a notch. :( It's a reminder every time that there are
       | still design limitations to overcome and engineering feats to be
       | achieved for the next 1,000 years. 8D
        
         | asddubs wrote:
         | well, at least you've given a very generous timespan for them
         | to resolve it
        
         | EthicalSimilar wrote:
         | I imagine this will come to iPhone first, then MacBook's (maybe
         | limited to the Pro's?) a year or two later.
        
       | lannisterstark wrote:
       | I've actually been debating getting a 14 MBP M1 for about $1500
       | on open box stores etc (woot), or on sale or what not but cannot
       | justify spending 1.5k on a laptop lol.
       | 
       | I have a desktop and a Thinkpad T430 if I need to go somewhere.
       | Also have a tablet and such. I definitely do need a "better"
       | laptop but my justification is that I'm not outside the house
       | often enough for me to buy the MBP.
       | 
       | Which, realistically, is true. I'm not.
       | 
       | On the other hand, shiny fast device lol.
        
         | acedTrex wrote:
         | I spent 3.4k on my m1 64gb and tbh its some of the best money
         | ive ever spent
        
           | EthicalSimilar wrote:
           | A client of mine has just issued me an M2 MBP as a bonus, and
           | wow. Night and day difference to my previous i9 MBP.
           | 
           | The battery on this is incredible - not to mention my limbs
           | no longer get burnt.
        
             | prawn wrote:
             | On the old ones, my fan used to run constantly at full
             | power.
             | 
             | Now, my external platter drives make more noise than the
             | laptop.
        
           | prawn wrote:
           | I use mine 10+ hours a day as the primary tool in the work I
           | do and enjoy it a lot. It's a bargain to me. Everything works
           | and the OS stays out of my way so can completely focus on the
           | primary apps I use. I remember the early years of work with a
           | computer, dealing with drivers and networking and huge CRT
           | displays and other drama. It's very rare that I notice or
           | think about the notch, and I never use the camera.
        
         | glhaynes wrote:
         | If you're price-sensitive and not already doing so, include the
         | M2 MBA (or, hell, even the M1 MBA) in your calculations. Great
         | machines, way more than sufficient for most. Though there are
         | some nice, fun luxury (again, for most) features on the MBPs,
         | too.
        
       | adam_arthur wrote:
       | I've been looking on and off for a way to do this for years.
       | 
       | Surprised more people aren't bothered by not being able to use
       | the space next to the notch... it's not even consistent with the
       | iPhone which does allow rendering apps around the notch.
        
         | duxup wrote:
         | Not to say you can't be bothered, but I look at it this way.
         | I'm honestly only really looking at a small amount of my screen
         | at a time.... I suspect I use that space very little.
        
           | josephd79 wrote:
           | Same. I just use topnotch and hide it. At first it bothered
           | me but I'm used to it now.
        
           | adam_arthur wrote:
           | So why ever get a larger screen?
           | 
           | Maybe you feel that way, but it's not a commonly shared
           | belief. There is a marginal value to having additional screen
           | space, and its silly to block use of it via software gates.
        
         | dilap wrote:
         | I basically never do full screen, so for that reason I'm not
         | bothered. (In fact, now I'm _less_ bothered, since I somehow no
         | longer feel like the menu bar is "wasting" space.)
        
           | hombre_fatal wrote:
           | Yeah.
           | 
           | Modern videos are so wide that a little extra vertical space
           | barely enlarges the video if at all.
           | 
           | Games usually can't use the space since the notch covers
           | their UI.
           | 
           | For me it's just free space for the menubar.
        
           | adam_arthur wrote:
           | I never use the "fullscreen" mode either, and don't
           | understand the point of it. But you don't ever have a window
           | that spans the full vertical space of the screen?
           | 
           | You can hide the menu bar and have it only appear on
           | mouseover, thus not wasting space. Except on non-notch Macs
           | you can place windows where the menu bar used to be, and on
           | notched Macs you can't
        
       | ProfessorLayton wrote:
       | Just got an M2 MBA and it's such a fantastic upgrade from my old
       | intel MBP, but the notch is a bit more distracting than I'd like.
       | It's awkwardly large, and the corner rounding is a lot worse than
       | the notched iPhones imo.
       | 
       | Its saving grace is that the screen is 16:10, and all pixels
       | where the notch lives are bonus pixels, so it's still a net win
       | in usable screen space vs 16:9 laptops.
       | 
       | Still, this is a nice workaround!
        
         | legohead wrote:
         | Enjoying the M2 16" as well. I thought I'd hate the notch, but
         | I don't really notice it most of the time because that's where
         | the top toolbar thing is.
         | 
         | The keyboard feels great. The past 2 (work) laptops I had to
         | turn in because the battery swelled and messed up the keys.
         | They got rid of the dumb LED bar, and magsafe is back. I'm more
         | of a fan of the (previous) fat left/right arrow keys though.
        
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