[HN Gopher] A photon-recycling incandescent lighting device
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       A photon-recycling incandescent lighting device
        
       Author : adrian_b
       Score  : 24 points
       Date   : 2023-04-14 21:46 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.science.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.science.org)
        
       | dexzod wrote:
       | The short lifetime of incandescent bulbs was by design
       | https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-great-lightbulb-conspiracy.
       | Otherwise they can last pretty long. This one is on since 1901
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Light
        
         | philipkglass wrote:
         | Running the filaments hotter makes the bulb more efficient but
         | also shortens the life span due to filament evaporation. You
         | could get very long life by under-powering the bulb but then
         | the already-low efficiency of incandescent lighting would go
         | lower. That's the other remarkable thing about this paper. They
         | use a ceramic instead of tungsten as the hot emitter, and
         | calculate that it should have a very long lifetime.
        
         | hashmash wrote:
         | The Centennial Light produces very little light and isn't very
         | practical. https://www.urbo.com/content/the-lightbulb-
         | conspiracy-shinin...
        
       | philipkglass wrote:
       | That's remarkable. I was afraid this was going to be a pure
       | theory/simulation paper, but they built an incandescent light
       | source that selectively recycles infrared photons back to the hot
       | emitter, thereby dramatically improving the luminous efficacy.
       | It's a white light source that produces a continuous spectrum in
       | the visible range, like other incandescent light bulbs, but has
       | efficiency comparable to LED lighting.
        
       | adrian_b wrote:
       | TLDR:
       | 
       | This paper demonstrates quite convincingly (because the
       | descriptions are very detailed) that the ancient Edison light
       | bulb (i.e. with light emitted by incandescent carbon) can be
       | revived by using modern technologies in a form that can be better
       | than the current LED lamps.
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       | The first incandescent lamps had 2 disadvantages, short lifetime
       | and low efficiency.
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       | The evaporation and oxidation of the incandescent carbon can be
       | avoided by a structure made of carbon nanotubes that works in
       | argon. The claimed lifetime (based on accelerated aging tests) is
       | as good as for LEDs.
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       | The low efficiency is solved by using a lossless optical filter
       | (i.e. one that transmits the visible light and reflects back the
       | infrared light) to prevent the heat loss from the lamp by
       | radiation other than the useful light output.
       | 
       | This method can reach the maximum energy efficiency determined by
       | the human vision characteristics, unlike the current LED lamps,
       | which are unavoidably limited to a value lower than that by the
       | losses caused by the fluorescent light conversion.
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       | The design of the lossless optical filter is a difficult
       | optimization problem due to the large number of parameters. Their
       | solution, which is completely described in the paper, is claimed
       | to have been found by a machine-learning algorithm.
        
         | maicro wrote:
         | I'm not going to read the paper to check your work, but
         | excellent TLDR - thanks X)
        
         | muser8 wrote:
         | Fantastic summary!
         | 
         | I wonder if the economics will make enough sense to overcome
         | entrenched interests and the legislation backing them.
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         | It be great to have efficient incandescent light and put the
         | failed promises of LED longevity behind us.
        
         | UncleOxidant wrote:
         | I don't see any discussion of manufacturing costs, anything
         | here that might be more expensive than current LED lighting?
        
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