[HN Gopher] Lofi air traffic control - LAX
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       Lofi air traffic control - LAX
        
       Author : hot_gril
       Score  : 285 points
       Date   : 2023-04-15 18:28 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.lofiatc.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.lofiatc.com)
        
       | anoncow wrote:
       | Ah it seems it is down.
        
         | cbracketdash wrote:
         | ? it seems to be working for me
        
           | rejectfinite wrote:
           | music works but airport radio is down for me
        
           | codetrotter wrote:
           | For me it played music for two seconds and then said "feed
           | down"
        
       | olkingcole wrote:
       | Great vibe. My only gripe is the music doesn't seem to be lofi at
       | all, just like slow beats. Maybe it's just where I'm at in the
       | playlist though.
        
       | Justin_K wrote:
       | Super cool. United used to let passengers listen to the flight's
       | atc comms, which I really liked. Then they merged with
       | Continental and got rid of it. I always wondered why the took
       | away that feature.
        
         | lucb1e wrote:
         | I recently saw a video where ATC made a mistake and nearly let
         | two planes get too close (one landing, another taking off, on
         | crossing runways). They caught it in time (some ATC automated
         | checking system was still doing its announcement as the
         | controller saw and diverted them both) but hearing that as a
         | passenger, I can imagine the panic that's not going to help
         | anyone.
         | 
         | Don't know if that is the reason, or if that's even a
         | legitimate reason (it's about your life after all, even if
         | you're powerless to save it), but I could imagine that being a
         | consideration.
        
           | lostlogin wrote:
           | Have an air traffic controller tell you that your about to
           | die would seem unlikely to be a panic inducing event. The
           | level of calm in utter carnage is very much a thing. I'd
           | prefer not to test this theory.
        
           | thakoppno wrote:
           | That reminds me about that one JetBlue emergency landing
           | where passengers could watch their own plane attempt a
           | landing.
           | 
           | IIRC, the flight attendants disabled the system right at
           | landing to prevent presumed panic. That decisions amusing to
           | me since there's a 15-30 second delay with satellite TV
           | anyway. I can't imagine there was a true opportunity for
           | passengers to see anything scary in this scenario.
        
       | amelius wrote:
       | Add some midjourney-generated manga drawings.
        
       | blastro wrote:
       | love it! bookmarked
        
       | handedness wrote:
       | Recent discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35126914
        
       | blt wrote:
       | don't listen to KATL towers combined if you want to relax!
        
       | 4ndrewl wrote:
       | This (well EHAM) is one of my standard daily listens whilst WFH.
       | That and the Flying Fortress over at MyNoise (a service I pay
       | for)
       | https://mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/propellerNoiseGenerator.ph...
        
         | lofi8320948 wrote:
         | Boston College's FM station WZBC has a program No Commercial
         | Potential, which plays lots of experimental sounds, some of it
         | sounds like MyNoise Flying Fortress. Everything depends on the
         | DJ and their mood, but some of it has this vibe.
         | 
         | https://www.wzbc.org/after-hours-ncp
        
         | ashton314 wrote:
         | MyNoise is the best. Stephane seems like such a respectful,
         | down-to-earth guy. I don't pay for many subscriptions--I go out
         | of my way to avoid them--but I put some good money into MyNoise
         | regularly because it's been such a valuable service. It's
         | optional--I don't actually use many of the paid features--but I
         | appreciate it so dang much.
        
           | s5300 wrote:
           | This is the dang appreciation bot.
           | 
           | You have put both "appreciate" and "dang" in the same
           | comment.
           | 
           | Alhamdulillah
        
       | techwizrd wrote:
       | When this was previously posted, some of the commenters mentioned
       | that this might be breaking the LiveATC TOS:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35126914
        
       | johnchristopher wrote:
       | SomaFM has https://somafm.com/player/#/now-playing/sf1033
       | (ambient with real-time chat from LAPD) and
       | https://somafm.com/player/#/now-playing/missioncontrol (ambient
       | and Houston old chit-chat I think).
       | 
       | They also have this new n5md channel that has sooooo many good
       | tracks :).
       | 
       | I don't get Lofi, it's way too sad/nostalgic to me to be relaxing
       | but the oversound here is okay (for a bit).
       | 
       | edit: BUT. Sometimes somaFM will sing tunes that sounds like Ross
       | from Friends or weird 32 minutes "dzing-dzin" loop. When it
       | happens I click on "wtf ?!" in the app and switch to another
       | channel (that I flood with "I love this").
        
         | lostlogin wrote:
         | > Sometimes somaFM will sing tunes that sounds like Ross from
         | Friends
         | 
         | Add a laugh track and your descent into hell will be complete.
        
           | actionfromafar wrote:
           | Just so everybody understands, there's an actual band named
           | "Ross from Friends".
        
       | dafelst wrote:
       | Why is this so strangely relaxing? What an amazing idea.
        
         | throwawaaarrgh wrote:
         | It's relaxing until they start speaking paragraphs very fast,
         | over and over, then it feels stressful ):
        
           | imp0cat wrote:
           | Try Narita. https://www.lofiatc.com/?icao=RJAA
        
         | capableweb wrote:
         | Mixing high-quality full-spectrum audio with low-quality and
         | small-spectrum voice always sound neat :)
         | 
         | The measured and calm voice of ATC and pilots probably just
         | makes it better, it always sound like they have everything 100%
         | under control.
        
           | Waterluvian wrote:
           | "Contact" on the Random Access Memories album does this well.
           | [1]
           | 
           | That entire song makes me picture a white knuckling
           | unscheduled re-entry followed by nail biting waiting,
           | concluded by a successful splash down.
           | 
           | [1] https://youtu.be/JI5noh4OyXc
        
         | tpmx wrote:
         | The HN submission page could play something like this in the
         | background to soothe people while they are preparing their
         | angry submissions.
         | 
         | Heh, who am I kidding, HN runs on outrage just like all the
         | other social networks.
        
           | PebblesRox wrote:
           | Now I'm imagining a writing/journaling app that automatically
           | chooses a playlist based on the emotions or concepts detected
           | in the writing.
        
       | Etheryte wrote:
       | Very pleasant to have this playing in the background. Is there a
       | list of the playlist available somewhere?
        
         | oriettaxx wrote:
         | broadcasts here https://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php
         | 
         | but I guess you want the music, don't you? (me, too)
        
       | bhargav wrote:
       | I watch a lot of VASAviation YT videos and listen to liveatc here
       | and there. My parents travel every bi-weekly so when possible I
       | always have LiveATC + Flightradar on and track their arrival and
       | taxing. This is a great idea to fill in the "gaps" between comms.
       | Thanks for sharing.
        
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       | kqr wrote:
       | Similar to this, I like listening to the Apollo missions in real
       | time[1], picking one active specific station at a time and
       | listening just to that. FIDO is a good one!
       | 
       | [1]: https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/
        
       | moralestapia wrote:
       | Came here to mention SomaFM and am glad to see many other
       | comments about it.
       | 
       | Don't forget to support! https://somafm.com/
        
       | CalRobert wrote:
       | related - from 12(!) years ago
       | 
       | http://youarelisteningtolosangeles.com/
       | 
       | It expanded to other cities. Montreal police meant I wasn't
       | distracted since I don't speak French.
        
       | southernplaces7 wrote:
       | Love this
        
       | Invictus0 wrote:
       | I just wish the ATC audio were processed a bit more: maybe slow
       | it down and put in some reverb?
        
         | KiranRao0 wrote:
         | Slowing down would be hard since it's a live stream
        
           | smcnally wrote:
           | not recommended for pilots and controlling air traffic, but
           | ffmpeg's 'atempo' filter works on audio streams:
           | 
           | 'ffmpeg -i ATC.wav -filter:a "atempo=0.5" -vn lofiatc.wav'
           | 
           | https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-filters.html#atempo
        
       | rejectfinite wrote:
       | Something about radio comms is soothing to me and I love lofi!
       | Thank you
        
       | 8bitsrule wrote:
       | Search doesn't accept city-names but ... if you find the 3-letter
       | IATA airport-code for a particular city (say Pittsburg, PIT)...
       | search for it with a K in front of it (KPIT), it's got many of
       | them.
       | 
       | US: https://www.airportcodes.us/us-airports.htm
        
       | rochak wrote:
       | That's very nice :)
        
       | dadzilla wrote:
       | I love these stations. SomaFM carries this and others (or maybe
       | they are just similar mash-ups). I have tinnitus 100% of the
       | time, and silence is the enemy. This kind of sound - indistinct,
       | with variety and high frequencies, is the most helpful.
        
       | chambo622 wrote:
       | None of the airport feeds I've tried have worked, unfortunately.
        
         | elliottcarlson wrote:
         | KJFK was the only one that loaded immediately and had ATC comms
         | going. KEWR took forever to load and even when Live nothing was
         | coming through.
        
         | Mr-Mercury wrote:
         | KLAX South Tower has a pretty decent of traffic from what I've
         | noticed.
        
       | eiiot wrote:
       | If you're interested in listening to more ATC stuff, LiveATC[0]
       | is a pretty good service for listening in while at airports or on
       | a plane (or just while sitting around). I use it when traveling
       | for fun, and it works really well! (The only issue is figuring
       | out what frequency your aircraft is on)
       | 
       | [0]: https://www.liveatc.net/
        
       | initramfs wrote:
       | Hollywood has a way of turning anything into a production.
        
         | jjulius wrote:
         | ... what does this have to do with Hollywood?
        
           | initramfs wrote:
           | Layering music over footage/audio(content) is a production.
           | Not saying it's bad nor good. Just a fact.
        
             | jjulius wrote:
             | It's a _music_ production trick employed by untold numbers
             | of musicians all over the world, more commonly known as
             | "sampling".
             | 
             | It has nothing to do with Hollywood.
        
               | lostlogin wrote:
               | Its history goes way back - quite interesting and as you
               | say, not Hollywood or even US in origin (according to the
               | below).
               | 
               | https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-first-song-to-use-
               | sampling/...
        
               | initramfs wrote:
               | I must have a neurological condition called synesthesia
               | where audio appear like images.
        
       | hyperific wrote:
       | Automated weather service would be cool too
        
         | galangalalgol wrote:
         | Weather radio repeat cycle is too short. It becomes noticeable
         | and then irritating and distracting. I keep wanting to try
         | shortwave news in a language I don't know but sounds nice. If
         | it has too many english or Spanish cognates I'll probably get
         | distracted trying to figure out what is said. Something tonal
         | perhaps, Welsh or Chinese.
        
         | hyperific wrote:
         | https://www.weatherusa.net/radio
        
       | alfred_joseph wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | SomeBoolshit wrote:
       | Very reminiscent of the soma FM station where they have music
       | over an SF police scanner.
        
       | joeysim wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | nine_k wrote:
       | Speaking about an opposite thing: am I the only one who gets
       | terribly distracted by any hint of human speech in the ambient
       | sounds? In my case, it completely destroys concentration; my mind
       | immediately switches to listening mode, trying to understand the
       | speech and tune in to the conversation.
       | 
       | This is why I only listen to the instrumental music during work,
       | and pain to hear an occasional phrase dropped into a perfectly
       | good IDM / synthwave / electronica track. I wish a "speech-free"
       | tag existed e.g. on Bandcamp; some artists helpfully put
       | annotations on their albums, e.g. Master Boot Record's "100%
       | dehumanized", but apparently most artists and likely listeners do
       | not see the presence of words as a large differentiator.
       | 
       | I know 2-3 of my friends who exhibit a similar effect. I wonder
       | if it's rare, or not so rare but not noticed much.
        
         | mhink wrote:
         | I experience something similar, but it seems to have more to do
         | with *how familiar* I am with the song. If it's something I've
         | never heard before, it's much more distracting- even if it
         | doesn't have words. On the other hand, if I've listened to it a
         | lot, it seems to have the opposite effect, and helps me
         | concentrate.
         | 
         | I get this when trying to fall asleep, too: I can't fall asleep
         | while watching something new! But give me an episode of
         | Futurama I've watched about six hundred and thirty-two times,
         | and I'll be out like a light. :)
         | 
         | That being said, this site is interesting because the speech is
         | somewhat less distinct and has the odd cadence of aviation
         | radio. I'll give it a listen for awhile and see if I get the
         | same effect as you.
        
           | mihaic wrote:
           | This effect of media familiarity is exactly the same for me:
           | I can be very creating when listening to an old playlist, but
           | can't think at all when listening to something new.
           | 
           | Not all people seem to be like this though, as I have friends
           | that listen to the radio/randomly recommended Spotify songs
           | at work.
        
         | andrepd wrote:
         | True, but on the other hand I also get distracted at
         | instruments x) Classical music especially is a no-no, I'll get
         | too interested and stop paying attention to what I'm doing lol.
         | 
         | However, ambient sounds are perfect. I'll never get tired of
         | plugging this: mynoise.net
        
         | chungus wrote:
         | Yup, same here. It's why I also mostly listen to instrumental
         | music. A lot of Aphex Twin. On top of that, when I listen to
         | (catchy) music with lyrics, it keeps looping in the background
         | of my brain non-stop, sometimes multiple days. A positive -sort
         | of related- thing: it's very easy for me to listen to audio-
         | books while driving or doing other things and not miss anything
         | because I'm so focused on the speech.
        
         | hnarn wrote:
         | > am I the only one who gets terribly distracted by any hint of
         | human speech in the ambient sounds? In my case, it completely
         | destroys concentration
         | 
         | I'm the same, which is why my favorite ambient music for work
         | is black metal. You still get music that mirrors how
         | troubleshooting kubernetes makes you feel, but you couldn't
         | hear the lyrics if you tried :-)
        
         | dado3212 wrote:
         | I have this, but I also love lyrical music as opposed to just
         | instrumental tracks. My solution was listening to music in
         | languages I don't understand (French, Icelandic, etc) where
         | there's still the tonal patterns and vocal layering, but
         | doesn't flip my brain into "speech processing" mode.
        
         | CalRobert wrote:
         | Me too, but only when my work involves words. When I was in
         | photoshop all day I listened to podcasts constantly and did
         | fine.
        
         | alonsonic wrote:
         | This has been studied before and it seems that yes your brain
         | has trouble ignoring music with lyrics.
         | 
         | Based on this study[1] you lose at least 10 IQ points when
         | studying and listening to music with lyrics.
         | 
         | [1] https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/2015/12/04/listening-to-
         | class...
        
           | T3OU-736 wrote:
           | Hrm. The study's size of 25 participants, and the inherent
           | variance of IQ score estimation both seem to smell more of a
           | confirmation bias than a legit anything else.
        
         | goodpoint wrote:
         | No, it's absolutely normal. It's difficult to ignore voices.
         | 
         | The same way it's difficult to tell the color of a written word
         | if the word itself is a color.
        
         | VBprogrammer wrote:
         | I definitely get where you are coming from. I've been known to
         | listen to music in languages I don't know as a bit of a work
         | around for that.
        
           | M3L0NM4N wrote:
           | Lol I started listening to Spanish music to work around that
           | issue as well, but when I listen to the same song so long I
           | can get used to it, plus I speak a basic level of Spanish.
        
           | scns wrote:
           | I even get distracted by those.
        
       | nathanmcrae wrote:
       | Some others have mentioned SomaFM and the Apollo missions
       | separately, but SomaFM has a station that combines ambient music
       | and the Apollo mission audio: https://somafm.com/missioncontrol/
        
         | TigeriusKirk wrote:
         | Are there any feeds of live current space mission audio?
        
         | SllX wrote:
         | I didn't know I needed this in my life until now. Thanks!
        
       | gokhan wrote:
       | Also this
       | 
       | https://listentothe.cloud/
        
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