[HN Gopher] Google Mars (2005)
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Google Mars (2005)
Author : belter
Score : 160 points
Date : 2023-04-22 11:17 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| lnxg33k1 wrote:
| I didn't know Mars had the same streets state of my hometown
| thefounder wrote:
| For some reasons steet view is not working! Hope they fix it
| soon!
| belter wrote:
| Privacy rules, they have the same in Germany.
| FinnKuhn wrote:
| Just wanted to point out that legally nothing is stopping
| Google from releasing Street View in Germany as far as I
| know. Maybe they will do so soon, considering that Apple Look
| Around is available for most of Germany
| rf15 wrote:
| Street View is also available in Germany as far as I can
| tell.
| tazjin wrote:
| Only in the initial cities in which they started doing it
| before the backlash got so large that they abandoned it.
|
| A few months later, when Microsoft or whoever did their
| take on it, nobody cared anymore because it wasn't about
| principles.
| pgeorgi wrote:
| It was more of a media campaign, ad brokers trying to
| kneecap that other ad broker. Microsoft wasn't in the ad
| business back in the day, so no threat to media
| businesses.
| ncphil wrote:
| Street view for Google Mars. I think the atmosphere is
| too thin for those photo-taking cars to run very far.
| That and the lack of any streets on Mars.
|
| At least in the unclassified imagery that has been made
| public... (cue eerie music)
| belter wrote:
| https://support.google.com/maps/thread/165997335/when-
| will-g...
| flaviut wrote:
| Check this newer version:
| https://www.google.com/maps/space/mars/@17.5325978,179.82741...
|
| They also have many other planets and celestial bodies here.
| rixrax wrote:
| Search located Pathfinder without problems[0]. But not the Ares
| III landing site[1]...
|
| [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Pathfinder [1]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Martian_(film)
| FR10 wrote:
| Having recently finished the book (awesome btw), Acidalia
| Planitia, Pathfinder and Schiaparelli where my first 3 queries
| butz wrote:
| They should partner up with NASA and add "Street view".
| tempodox wrote:
| My summer house on Mars is private, I don't want a Street View
| image of it.
| [deleted]
| timur21 wrote:
| Always wanted this
| amelius wrote:
| I want to select A on Earth and B on Mars, then click
| "Directions".
| aaron695 wrote:
| [dead]
| belter wrote:
| https://www.google.com/sky/
|
| https://www.google.com/moon/
| Ajedi32 wrote:
| Mars is also built in to Google Maps now:
| https://www.google.com/maps/space/mars/
| lib-dev wrote:
| It would be cool if they updated Google Sky to use JWST images.
| HopenHeyHi wrote:
| Woah, check out this page:
| https://www.google.com/sky/about.html
|
| 2011 in the footer. Remnants of the old google of a by-gone
| era. Simultaneously feels both like yesterday and an eternity
| ago.
|
| The video is from 2008:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX9MeF2Au9c
|
| I bet whoever made this is no longer there and it has been
| forgotten about internally.
| belter wrote:
| The comments from 15 years ago are even more interesting.
| Avicebron wrote:
| What's that quote about dying a hero vs living long enough
| to see yourself become the villain?
| LoganDark wrote:
| The prophecy.
| pinewurst wrote:
| Isn't that Google in a nutshell?
| tazjin wrote:
| There was a time where employees could get paths under
| google.com/ for semi-personal projects.
| p1mrx wrote:
| Seems weird that the "Mountains" link doesn't label Olympus Mons.
| It's the tallest mountain in the solar system.
| pfannkuchen wrote:
| If Google still had a sense of humor they would do Google Flat
| Earth for April Fool's Day one of these years. Complete with
| perimeter ice wall and an announcement that scientists have made
| an amazing discovery about the true shape of the Earth. Easter
| egg of infinite turtle stack supporting the Earth Plane if you do
| 3D view and flip it over. Alas...
| zokier wrote:
| If you want higher res, check out the recently released Murray
| Lab CTX global mosaic:
|
| https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/new-interactive-mosaic-uses...
|
| https://murray-lab.caltech.edu/CTX/index.html
| throwaway199956 wrote:
| Any idea of high res images from Tianwen-1, as per reports they
| have imaged most of Mars surface, and being a more recent
| mission, may have better camera.
| zokier wrote:
| Found a chinese map here:
| https://moon.bao.ac.cn/Mars/index/index.html
|
| From the looks of it, it might be Tianwen-1 MoRIC (100m/px)
| data. But I'm not sure, I always have difficulty navigating
| non-NASA data sources.
|
| I don't think the higher resolution HiRIC (up to 2.5m/px)
| data is publicly available. I don't also know what sort of
| coverage they have for it.
|
| But in general it's not just having the data, stitching a
| global mosaic is a non-trivial effort. Afaik the Murray Lab
| mosaic took several years of work to make.
|
| There is also HRSC from ESA that has been imaging Mars with
| fairly good resolution/coverage.
|
| And finally also UAE Hope mission has produced global map,
| but I haven't been able to find their full-resolution data.
| https://nyuad.nyu.edu/en/news/latest-news/science-and-
| techno...
| tempodox wrote:
| Yay, great! Here's the raw mosaic, make your browser full-
| screen for this:
|
| https://murray-lab.caltech.edu/CTX/V01/SceneView/MurrayLabCT...
| pcurve wrote:
| Wonder why they haven't killed this yet. I guess hardly anyone
| knows this exists
| marricks wrote:
| It's been out for over 15 years now, you'd hope they'd add some
| street view...
| SergeAx wrote:
| What, no Street View? Why?
| nickcotter wrote:
| I thought I was about to read that it had been discontinued. Glad
| to see it hasn't!
| cabirum wrote:
| You have 30 days to pack your things and move to another
| planet. You remaining Google Mars subscription will be refunded
| to your account.
| nabla9 wrote:
| Google data scraping is not that good. Olympus Mons is not listed
| in mountains as other volcanoes. Feature:
| Olympus Mons Type: Mons, montes
| jonnycomputer wrote:
| street view?
| Aldipower wrote:
| Wow, this old site is exceptionally fast!
| m3kw9 wrote:
| No walking directions?
| patwolf wrote:
| I miss the days when I'd see a HN post to a Google project and be
| excited to check it out.
|
| I don't necessarily fault Google--they have to do what makes
| sense for their business. But I wish, at the very least from a PR
| perspective, more companies would create cool things without
| worrying about whether they can be monetized.
| dr_kiszonka wrote:
| I do miss it too. What is the point in having so much money if
| you can't do exciting, useful, and cool stuff.
| capableweb wrote:
| The basic equation:
|
| - Small, nimble, fun, fast, low amount of cash, interesting
| work, ease to deploy
|
| - Big, fat, tedious, slow, extensive supply of cash, maybe
| some interesting work at most, pain to get anything deployed
| cdibona wrote:
| Noel and Michael launched mars and moon in about three weeks
| after starting as 'interns' under me, as that was the fastest
| path to a badge. They're both still at Google, I think. (As
| employees!)
|
| Someday I'll write up the story, but that was a heck of a fun
| project!
| aix1 wrote:
| Wow, things... have changed.
|
| Thanks for sharing.
| SimonSays321 wrote:
| [dead]
| smallnix wrote:
| > (As employees!)
|
| Cracked me up
| foobarbecue wrote:
| I've always been really disapointed that google let their
| planetary maps stagnate.
|
| I work (~5% of my work week) on https://trek.nasa.gov/ . Our
| front page sucks, but the individual map browsers are quite rich
| in terms of available layers and tools. Our UI is... not
| optimized for discoverability, but there's a lot there. Mars is
| at https://trek.nasa.gov/mars/
| dndn1 wrote:
| How do they pick a 0 elevation?
| lmc wrote:
| Good question! it's the average.
| https://mars.nasa.gov/mgs/faqs/faq_sci.html
| ml_basics wrote:
| Check out the scale, those are very tall peaks in the centre at
| 21km!
| mock-possum wrote:
| weird that there's no map scale provided - like a "___ = 1km"
| legend thingy
|
| also the silver/gold infrared map reminds me of Brinstar in the
| original Metroid.
| breck wrote:
| I had never really paid attention to the fact that all the
| craters are round. If anyone else is just noticing that, this
| explains it: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-are-
| impact-cr...
| tppiotrowski wrote:
| Someone once told me that Mars has better elevation data than
| Earth. Maybe it's the quality of the orbiters or maybe it's the
| fact that there is less atmospheric interference and you can use
| LiDAR vs radar? Can anyone confirm?
|
| bdon, if you're reading this we need a protomaps archive for the
| moon and Mars :)
| kvdveer wrote:
| I thought that earth elevation data is unreliable in forested
| areas, as vegetation hides the true elevation of those areas.
| That's probably not a significant problem on Mars...
| tppiotrowski wrote:
| I think vegetation is an issue with LiDAR but my
| understanding is that radar penetrates down to the ground.
| tmoravec wrote:
| My guess would be that they meant the oceans. No water = better
| elevation data.
| godber wrote:
| Hahaha, that was a busy weekend when this launched in like
| 2005-2006. I was one of the sysadmins of the website with the
| THEMIS images. Google promoted it directly below the search box.
| Which made my web servers 3 clicks away from Google's front page.
| I spent the weekend cannibalizing compute nodes from one of our
| clusters to work as caching proxies. It all worked out pretty
| well.
| foobarbecue wrote:
| Very cool, thanks for sharing. It's fascinating to me that
| google has put so little effort into their planetary maps since
| an inital burst of interest, but hasn't killed them yet. Is it
| just "below the radar"? I guess I assumed they would have some
| management process that kills zombie projects... don't they?
| imajoredinecon wrote:
| From my experience working there, killing a cute toy project
| like this takes some breaking change in a dependency _plus_
| nobody willing to spend a few hours every now and then to
| maintain it. Both of these are basically luck of the draw, so
| it's not surprising to have stuff like this stick around for
| this long.
| [deleted]
| jsmcgd wrote:
| Here's another 3D Mars surface explorer: https://murray-
| lab.caltech.edu/CTX/V01/SceneView/MurrayLabCT...
|
| Edit: Searching through my notes, I realised I've been down this
| rabbit hole before. Here are some more of the same:
|
| https://explore-mars.esri.com/
|
| http://www.mars3dmap.com
|
| https://mars.nasa.gov/resources/24881/planet-mars-3d-model/
| foobarbecue wrote:
| don't forget Eyes on the Solar System, WorldWind, Cosmographia,
| JMars, and USGS PILOT
| weird-eye-issue wrote:
| No directions?
| cryptoz wrote:
| Always love playing with this especially after reading Red Mars
| and recognizing a lot of place names.
|
| But also sad google hasn't even kept the styling updated to their
| branding or added any features.
| dchest wrote:
| I love the fact that they haven't updated styling: this one is
| clear and fast.
| xchkr1337 wrote:
| I don't think that's a good point to critizice Google for.
| Unlike many other websites, the Google homepage has always
| remained clear and fast, even after multiple redesigns.
| holoduke wrote:
| Except it keeps focusing on the input screen and opens my
| keyboard all the time.
| booleandilemma wrote:
| I don't understand how Google could have this and yet they don't
| have high res images of the Earth's oceans.
| XorNot wrote:
| The data doesn't exist. You can't map oceans from space like
| you can land.
| silvertaza wrote:
| If the visible map here is gray, why is it red-ish in the sky
| looking at it with the naked eye?
| willidiots wrote:
| https://wehoville.com/2013/01/07/why-are-images-from-space-p...
| zokier wrote:
| That article feels overly dismissive. Notably more recent
| Mars missions such as Tianwen and Hope do have normal bayer
| cameras onboard producing color images.
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