[HN Gopher] A visual book recommender
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       A visual book recommender
        
       Author : squidhunter
       Score  : 321 points
       Date   : 2023-04-27 11:40 UTC (11 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (nathanrooy.github.io)
 (TXT) w3m dump (nathanrooy.github.io)
        
       | FreeHugs wrote:
       | Reminds me of https://www.literature-map.com
       | 
       | Which is a map of all authors in the world sorted by overlap in
       | readership. I found some of my favorite writers by browsing it.
       | 
       | I wonder which approach is better suited to find something that
       | is spot on to my interests.
       | 
       | When I think of my favorite books, they usually are the most
       | popular books of their authors.
       | 
       | Are there any counterexamples, where an author wrote a book that
       | is more profound than their biggest hit but got overlooked for
       | some reason?
        
         | Tyr42 wrote:
         | I wish it was easier to see some of their books, or even copy
         | and search the author from each page.
        
         | lkbm wrote:
         | Oh man, Literature Map looks really great for finding recs.
         | 
         | That said, I do think book-level might be much more valuable.
         | My first thought for this was _Night in the Lonesome October_
         | by Roger Zelazny. I haven 't read anything else by him yet
         | because my brother informs me his other stuff is entirely
         | different. Looking at Goodreads, I think that qualifies as far
         | from his biggest hit. Is it "more profound?"? Doubtful, but
         | seems likely that you shouldn't group it with his others. I
         | want recommendations based on the book I like, not the author I
         | mostly might-not.
         | 
         | A better example might be how Stephenie Meyer wrote the
         | _extremely_ popular Twilight books, and also _The Host_ which
         | is much less well-known, and better in many respects. Probably
         | qualifies as more profound, too--it 's told from the
         | perspective of a parasitic alien. Picture the Yeerks from
         | Animorphs if you read those.)
        
       | Zufriedenheit wrote:
       | Impressive Tool. I would love to have the same for movies.
        
       | stared wrote:
       | For post-t-SNE processing to get non-overlapping items, see also:
       | https://github.com/Quasimondo/RasterFairy
       | 
       | I also used more crude algorithms that sort by X, group elements
       | in buckets, and within each, sort by Y. Then we get a grid of
       | elements. The result is less high-quality than with iterative
       | algorithms (and depends on if we sort by X or Y first), but it is
       | hard to beat its simplicity.
        
       | igaloly wrote:
       | Nice! Is there a github repo?
        
       | vrglvrglvrgl wrote:
       | [dead]
        
       | eshnil wrote:
       | > Only include reviews which came from users who had at least 10
       | reviews.
       | 
       | Not sure if that's a good idea. It shrinks the set of genuine
       | readers and overweights the set of professional spammers.
        
       | mxfh wrote:
       | similiar t-SNE visualisation, just for papers:
       | 
       | https://static.nomic.ai/pubmed.html
       | 
       | running on their deepscatter visualization engine:
       | 
       | https://github.com/nomic-ai/deepscatter
       | 
       | that keeps things dynamic for rendering
        
       | jvanderbot wrote:
       | Id love to have https://same.energy for book contents.
        
         | etra0 wrote:
         | woah, didn't know about this site! it is super cool!
         | 
         | It feels like what Pinterest would be without the annoying
         | bits.
        
           | jvanderbot wrote:
           | Be careful, it'll become your defacto image search, and then
           | you'll be really disappointed when you realize it hasn't been
           | updated in ages
        
       | internetter wrote:
       | This is awesome. I only wish the author haden't waited years
       | after scrapping! Many books I've loved have been released in the
       | past couple years
        
       | paweladamczuk wrote:
       | This is really cool!
       | 
       | I wish the accompanying article was longer. I can't fully grasp
       | how it was done because I don't know enough about the concepts
       | mentioned.
        
       | aroc wrote:
       | This is great. I think visual tools like this are under utilized.
       | They're fun to use and can often reveal interesting insights.
        
       | CSMastermind wrote:
       | I'm surprised there are enough books published under the category
       | of "Reverse-harem" to make it its own category along with things
       | like "Horror", "Fantasy", "Business", etc.
        
       | motoboi wrote:
       | Really interesting that my favorite sci-fi book, Pandora's Star
       | is in the middle of a void in the center of a large sci-fi
       | cluster.
       | 
       | It explains why I couldn't find anything like it.
       | 
       | Also very explanatory the fact the Tolkien's The Two Towers is
       | right by its side, because I also love that book.
       | 
       | And now I'm already downloading the other "outliers" close to
       | Pandora's Star.
        
       | nycdatasci wrote:
       | Cool visualization, but the model needs work. The closest book to
       | "Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets" is "The Victorian
       | Lady's Guide to Sex, Marriage, and Manners".
        
         | rossdavidh wrote:
         | Hypothesis: the sort of person who reads "The Victorian...", is
         | likely to both like Harry Potter books, and also to review them
         | enthusiastically online. The typical HP child reader, does not
         | review books online. Just an hypothesis.
        
         | badcppdev wrote:
         | I have a theory (after having searched for The Diamond Age)
         | that certain very popular books are ironically not going to be
         | close to similar books because they appear on so many varied
         | reading lists.
         | 
         | There's probably a graph theory phenomena that describes what
         | I'm thinking.
        
           | twosdai wrote:
           | Yeah basically what I think you're saying is that in a
           | weighted graph, if there are edge weights which are orders of
           | magnitude larger then the average it throws off certain
           | models. Like nearest neighbor.
           | 
           | Basically just prune the top and bottom %1 of weighted edges
           | to get an appropriate average. Would be my guess for a fix.
        
           | bwb wrote:
           | Yep this is 100% true (i run shepherd.com).
           | 
           | Within our data books like lord of the rings and harry potter
           | are nearly impossible to map for "books like" because they
           | are connected to so many other things. I am working now to
           | fine tune our model, but it has been an interesting
           | challenge.
        
         | narcraft wrote:
         | Sounds about right to me!
        
       | gnewton77 wrote:
       | The visualizations remind me of those in a paper I co-authored a
       | while ago (2009) visualizing ~2400 scientific journal / ~5.7M
       | full-text articles: "Semantic Journal Mapping for Search
       | Visualization in a Large Scale Article Digital Library"
       | https://nrc-publications.canada.ca/eng/view/accepted/?id=63e...
        
       | mhb wrote:
       | I also like https://shepherd.com/. One of its interesting
       | features is that authors list their five favorite books and say
       | why they like them.
        
         | cainxinth wrote:
         | Lol, I tried it out and put in one of my favorite books,
         | "Liar's Poker" by Michael Lewis and it suggested me a list of
         | "The best novels to help you understand the rich and
         | dysfunctional."
         | 
         | Spot on! Bookmarked!
        
         | pedrosbmartins wrote:
         | Which reminds me of https://fivebooks.com/, where people from a
         | particular field are asked their top five book recommendations
         | for a given theme. The interview format is great, and I've
         | picked up a few recommended books along the way.
        
           | scotty79 wrote:
           | > The Best Apocalyptic Fiction, recommended by Elliot
           | Ackerman
           | 
           | > 1. The King James Bible
        
         | bwb wrote:
         | Thanks for the nice mention :)
         | 
         | I am about a week away from launching genre pages, age pages,
         | and filters for all those things. So on the hard-science-
         | fiction page, you can filter to see books in a variety of fun
         | ways and keep following your curiosity:
         | 
         | Image showing how it works:
         | https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_pr...
         | 
         | Hit me up at ben@shepherd.com if you want to try the early
         | preview, just tell me your fav genre and ill send you a link.
        
       | Rediscover wrote:
       | Nice article. Not what I was expecting...
       | 
       | I was really hoping this would address "Visual Book" like in
       | hushiginoHai nonadeia, Fushigi no Umi no Nadia/The Secret of Blue
       | Water. The LaserDiscs used to say "Visual Book" in every episode.
       | 
       | Great animated series (to me), a mix of 20,000 Leagues Under the
       | Sea and the Illuminati.
       | 
       | Do NOT watch it with the english subs. Suffer with the Japanese,
       | even if You don't speak it. You don't need the junk verbal
       | translation, You will still get the main concepts. And Hanson's
       | driving is so much more manaical in Japanese.
        
       | qumpis wrote:
       | This looks super cool, but why not use this tool as a non-visual
       | tool to show similar books given a title? As far as I know there
       | aren't many tools for this
       | 
       | Also it would be super cool if we could import out goodreads
       | reading lists and see them on the cluster
        
       | skuxxlife wrote:
       | This is super cool! I actually have been working on a new book
       | recommendation site (https://braincandy.com) that has a similar-
       | ish (but much smaller scale) visualization for book similarity.
       | It is really interesting how certain genres tend to be much more
       | insular than others and it can be a real challenge to break out
       | of genre boxes when making recommendations. There's so many books
       | out there on the edges and in-betweens that get lost when they
       | don't fit neatly into an existing popular genre, and those indeed
       | can be some of the most interesting.
        
       | thadk wrote:
       | Anvaka's YASIV was an extremely strong tool in this space until
       | Amazon discontinued the API it relied on.
       | 
       | https://twitter.com/anvaka https://twitter.com/yasivcom
        
       | bwb wrote:
       | This is an awesome visualization, I am so impressed :). I've been
       | working on (shepherd.com) with a similar goal to try to bring in
       | human groupings to try to determine book connections via the many
       | angles humans bring to the table. And more serendipity like
       | wandering a local bookstore. I really love how you have done
       | this.
       | 
       | Dropping you an email in a few hours :)
        
       | archydeb wrote:
       | Love this. Bought a couple of books similar to "Midnight's
       | Children' - author should definitely think about adding affiliate
       | links!
        
       | tpttt wrote:
       | Made an account just to comment on this. Look incredible.
        
       | scotty79 wrote:
       | Funny that most remote and isolated clusters ended up being m-m-
       | romance and ... manga.
        
       | brubsby wrote:
       | The gang of four design patterns book being two away from a MAGA
       | book is funny.
        
       | jasonshen wrote:
       | Did I miss how we are supposed to get recommendations from what
       | OP built?
        
         | _dwt wrote:
         | Find something on the map that you know you like. Now look
         | around it to see similar (i.e. if you like this, you're likely
         | to like that) books.
        
       | camjohnson26 wrote:
       | Kind of hacky but I built something similar to apply the page
       | rank algorithm to the authors referenced between books of various
       | topics, here's the result for science:
       | 
       | https://camjohnson26.github.io/author-graph/science/
       | 
       | https://github.com/CamJohnson26/author-graph
       | 
       | Clearly needs a lot of data clean up but still was very helpful
       | for discovering important scientists and their approximate
       | relative impact
        
       | butterNaN wrote:
       | Something's wrong here. I was very excited to explore this, until
       | I searched for "Getting Things Done" by David Allen. A nearby
       | book - "Crippled America: How to Make America Great Again" by
       | Donald J. Trump.
        
       | WaitWaitWha wrote:
       | Have you presented this to LibraryThing?
        
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