[HN Gopher] Show HN: The pure Python SaaS starter kit
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Show HN: The pure Python SaaS starter kit
Hi HN, Recently, I've noticed there's a decently high barrier to
entry in developing competitive, full-stack SaaS applications.
Beside the standard, boring features that take months to implement,
you typically have to know several languages and frameworks, and be
familiar with fancy frontend styling classes. I'm working hard
right now to solve this problem by building PySaaS- The 100% pure
Python SaaS starter kit. PySaaS is a boilerplate Python codebase
that takes care of the fundamental components standard to all SaaS
applications. The codebase uses the Pynecone web framework to
compile your frontend into a NextJS app, so you never have to touch
any HTML, CSS, or Javascript. Pynecone is easy to learn, yet fully
flexible and powerful enough for advanced use cases. We implement
out-of-the-box functionality for secure Firebase user
authentication, Lemon Squeezy subscription management (MoR removes
a major tax headache), Notion as a headless blog CMS, and more.
Our mission is to help developers and founders save months of
development time and focus on building unique features, which will
in turn provide more opportunities to generate revenue and give
value to customers. And easily do it in pure Python! Frontend.
Backend. All in Python. To check out the live demo for free, click
the link and then the "See Demo" button. Let me know what you
think.
Author : BowTiedRay
Score : 56 points
Date : 2023-04-30 17:22 UTC (5 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (pysaas.io)
(TXT) w3m dump (pysaas.io)
| marcrosoft wrote:
| Trust me on this. Don't offer lifetime or unlimited anything
| czue wrote:
| For this type of product it's actually a pretty good model.
| Adam Wathan (of Tailwind UI) had a good podcast on this topic
| recently: https://hackersincorporated.com/episodes/lifetime-
| pricing-is...
| alex_lav wrote:
| I don't understand why you wouldn't turn the demo site into the
| _actual_ site? They have all the same information and features?
| rkwasny wrote:
| Just buy gpt-4 + github copilot/cursor for 2x$20
| sgt wrote:
| Yeah, and just let it build your entire startup for you while
| you sleep. 20 days in, you will have six figure revenue. /s
| morkalork wrote:
| Is that the passive income all the influencers are talking
| about???
| [deleted]
| [deleted]
| tyingq wrote:
| The lifetime one-time-payment pricing seems worrying to me. It
| feels like it would drive high levels of activity/maintenance
| during a growth curve, then probably fall off rapidly. Leaving
| little incentive to maintain it well after some point.
| sixstringtheory wrote:
| Whenever I see "lifetime guarantee" or anything like that, I
| think yeah, for the lifetime of the _company_ , not the
| _customer_.
| bazmattaz wrote:
| Yeh whenever I see "life time" pricing I think the author Is
| impatient and/or greedy and just wants as much money up front
| as possible. Where's the incentive to keep plugging away at
| updates when less new customers are signing up.
|
| Plex have this model too which worries me
| DANmode wrote:
| Depends on the size of the niche, and how long and continuously
| you're reaching out to it.
| zocoi wrote:
| I'm not a fan of writing front end code with Python or any
| language other than JS/TS. How deep can I customize or build
| feature rich UI? I still think the best combo is Rails/ Django
| API with Nextjs client
| BowTiedRay wrote:
| With PySaaS, your app's frontend is compiled down to a NextJS
| app, and FastAPI is built-in for the backend.
|
| UI components are fully-customizable, and are actually wrappers
| around React components using Chakra UI. If you want to get
| fancy, you can even wrap your own components in three simple
| steps.
|
| Learn more here: https://pynecone.io/docs/advanced-
| guide/wrapping-react
| ludoro wrote:
| As a ML engineer / back end type of dev, I really like the idea
| that I can build everything in Python. Really tempted to buy it
| but I am a bit scared about support.
|
| Can you share what's the plan? I buy it now, do I get updates?
| What happens if you stop working on it? How do I make sure the
| code is of "high-quality" and not glued together?
| Lyngbakr wrote:
| It looks like you get updates:
|
| > Get unlimited access for unlimited projects with a one-time
| payment and receive all updates 100% FREE.
|
| If they stop working on it, I imagine that you're SOL.
| techn00 wrote:
| How is it different from:
|
| Django (Python) SaaS Pegasus
| https://www.saaspegasus.com/ Djaodjin. Open Source.
| https://djaodjin.com/ Carrot Seed
| https://www.cnc.io/en/seed The SaaS boilerplate by
| Apptension (+React) https://www.apptension.com/saas-boilerplate
| Vanty Starter Kit https://www.advantch.com/ Saas Hammer
| https://saashammer.com/
|
| Flask (Python) SaaS Forge. Open Source.
| https://www.saasforge.dev/ Ignite (SaaS Boilerplate).
| Open Source. https://github.com/sumukh/ignite Flask App
| Builder. Open Source. https://github.com/dpgaspar/Flask-
| AppBuilder Build a SAAS App with Flask. Course /
| Boilerplate. https://buildasaasappwithflask.com/ Enferno
| Frameowrk: Open Source . https://enferno.io/
|
| https://github.com/smirnov-am/awesome-saas-boilerplates
| 1cvmask wrote:
| [dead]
| BowTiedRay wrote:
| PySaaS uses the Pynecone web framework rather than Django or
| Flask.
|
| This allows you to build the entire stack in a single language
| instead of having to learn and switch between multiple. You can
| install and import any Python library as you would with any
| Python file.
|
| The frontend is compiled down to a NextJS app, and FastAPI is
| built-in for the backend. UI components are fully-customizable,
| and are actually wrappers around React components using Chakra
| UI.
| MajimasEyepatch wrote:
| That kind of other-language-to-JS stuff works great for
| small, one-man projects that never go to production.
| Unfortunately, other than TypeScript, none of these solutions
| have really achieved critical mass, and they all fizzle out
| after a few years, leaving you with a horrible mess to clean
| up. You have layers and layers of indirection, and you don't
| know whether your problem is your code, or a Python library,
| or the Python-to-JS layer, or one of the JS libraries, and no
| one on the Internet can help you because your stack is
| completely bespoke.
|
| I applaud you trying to make it easier for people to get
| started, but throwing them on top of this Tower of Babel and
| pretending it will never come crumbling down into a mess of
| inconsistent languages and libraries is a recipe for pain.
| TypeScript is not that hard. If you're teaching beginners how
| to build a web front end, just start with that, and let them
| use either TypeScript or Python on the back end, depending on
| how ambitious they are.
| Alifatisk wrote:
| > The frontend is compiled down to a NextJS app So, PySaaS >
| NextJS > React > Javascript
|
| How far will this abstraction layer reach?
| mytlogos wrote:
| No contact info or something similar? How do we distinguish this
| from a "scam" site, if we do not have anyone to hold accountable?
| Social Media accounts do not count.
| mtmail wrote:
| 4000 followers on twitter with zero tweets. None seem to be
| software developers. This project is giving me more red flags
| than it should.
| eliseomartelli wrote:
| Just did a little "research" on op, it tingled an array of
| other red flags
| mtmail wrote:
| If I can't find even the juristriction I'm entering a contract
| with I usually bail. I wish at least the payment provider would
| force sellers to reveal the name and address on the checkout
| page. Neither on the website or the checkout page it's even
| clear if '$' is US Dollar. On the checkout page it's not clear
| what currency my credit card is billed with!
| [deleted]
| icemelt8 wrote:
| Where is the admin panel?
| tempaccount1234 wrote:
| The buy-now page doesn't load on safari (so I can't check out the
| price) - but in general if you do the heavy lifting by using
| existing free Python tools you'll have a hard time selling a
| framework that's supposed to make things "easier". The promise to
| never touch html, css and JavaScript usually means you have to
| learn some other tool that it limited in features or scalability
| so at the end you invested a lot of time into the tool you could
| have spent getting some basic other skills. As a Python dev with
| very limited JavaScript skills I would usually wait a few years
| before committing to spend time on a "easy" framework that's not
| free to use on your own hardware.
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