[HN Gopher] You and Your Research (1986) ___________________________________________________________________ You and Your Research (1986) Author : ftxbro Score : 111 points Date : 2023-05-01 17:47 UTC (5 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.cs.virginia.edu) (TXT) w3m dump (www.cs.virginia.edu) | scsteps wrote: | I've always had trouble balancing between working on things that | I consider to be important vs things that I am excited about. In | my experience I've always gotten good results from the things I'm | excited about and not what I consider to be important. | | Should I consider what I feel excited to be important? | Personally, sure, but objectively speaking the world might not | think that way. | umutisik wrote: | What makes you excited about something in the case when it's | not important? | jzelinskie wrote: | Here's a recording from '95 entitled the same: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1zDuOPkMSw | | I also highly recommend reading the Stripe Press book also with | the same name: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1732265178 | teddyh wrote: | Better video quality, same source material: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3msMuwqp-o&list=PLctkxgWNSR... | netcraft wrote: | I came to also recommend the book. The last half is about | specific engineering topics, but the first half is packed with | great ideas and thoughts that anyone will find valuable. | | Its also a beautiful and well made book. | 6451937099 wrote: | [dead] | 6451937099 wrote: | [dead] | mathisfun123 wrote: | There's a part of this that's never ever commented on | | >I don't like to say it in front of my wife, but I did sort of | neglect her sometimes; I needed to study. You have to neglect | things if you intend to get what you want done. There's no | question about this. | | As someone that got married during their PhD and is now finishing | up and reflecting: it isn't worth it. Neglecting the people in | your life that love you in the pursuit of "science" is no | different than neglecting them because you have a drug habit or | because you're an inveterate gambler _or because you 're chasing | fame and fortune_. The science will get done regardless and the | only thing you accomplish is ensuring your own interests. Suffice | it to say I'm taking steps make sure my next gig has more room. | JHonaker wrote: | It really isn't talked about enough. I am contemplating leaving | my PhD despite being ABD with the majority of the interesting | work done simply because the neglect it inflicts on my family | is the cause of the overwhelming majority of conflicts in my | life. | | I truly love working on the problem, investing time in research | papers, and experimenting, but I have no desire to stay in | academia. Plus, I have a well-paying full-time job (that I took | during the pandemic to save my wife from having to shoulder our | living expenses basically single-handedly while growing our | child inside of her). | | > Suffice it to say I'm taking steps make sure my next gig has | more room. | | I hear you. It's crazy how mentally abusive a lot of people's | relationship with their PhD is. I'm convinced it's one of the | reasons so many people with PhDs marry other PhDs. They're the | only ones that "understand" the level of single-minded devotion | you have to have to be an early career researcher. | nunuvit wrote: | Higher education isn't made for people with a family life. | There's no real reason for this, but there's no pressure to | change it because there's always someone else in line ready to | take your place. | BlandDuck wrote: | I am a reasonably successful researcher, and I admit to | neglecting my wife sometimes, especially in my early career. | | However, I would venture that being successful in any career | --- be it research, business, politics, arts --- requires a | certain amount of focus and neglect of your family and friends. | | But later, if you succeed, you can make it up to them and make | it worth it for them as well. | ke88y wrote: | _> However, I would venture that being successful in any | career --- be it research, business, politics, arts --- | requires a certain amount of focus and neglect of your family | and friends._ | | A warning for the younger readers in our midst: this is _NOT_ | how most relationships work. You normally don 't get to | mismanage a relationship and then "make up for it" later. | When you do, there are almost always lasting scars. | | That said: this might be true for business and politics. But | academics? LOL. Becoming a professor, even at a top | university, is a pretty pathetic definition of "success". A | professor is a mid-level manager position that pays about the | same as an entry-level position at a top tech or finance | firm. Most people involved in allocating budget / selecting | projects understand that the work being managed is mostly not | valuable; that's why they don't mind telling you that you | need to pay your subordinates about what they'd make at | McDonald's. | | It's a first line management job where pay is not enough to | "make up" for the lost years and the work almost always | literally doesn't matter. | | _> But later, if you succeed, you can make it up to them and | make it worth it for them as well._ | | This might be true in business and politics, and to some | extent in arts, but it's not true in academia. And to the | extent that it is true, it's enabled by pushing shit down the | hill. | | Which is why I'm a lapsed academic. I turned down my TT | offers because I realized that I couldn't, in good | conscience, build a career out of abusing junior labor. And | universities put hard constraints on how you pay and manage | PhD students, so avoiding at least financial abuse is mostly | impossible. | [deleted] | andrepd wrote: | Have you considered some people might not conflate | "success" with "net worth"? Wealth = success is a very | tired trope, I thought everybody realised what a sham that | way of thinking is. | | Who cares if they make more or less than a techbro? If | they're happy with their job and they earn enough to pay | for things they want (house, vacations, whatever), then | they should chase the rat-race of the "ladder of success" | because...? | ke88y wrote: | Where do I make such a conflation? | | We aren't talking about nurses or school teachers. We are | talking about professors at large research universities. | | Your sibling comment speaks of working "nights and | weekends" with frequent travel. That puts an enormous | amount of work and stress on their partner, and faculty | usually don't make enough money to offset those | contributions. | | Deciding not to optimize for wealth is perfectly fine. | Doing to do so while working nights and weekends with | frequent travel isn't. Optimizing for "prestige" is | infinitely worse than optimizing for "wealth", because at | least the latter can be shared and has utility beyond | pure ego. | andrepd wrote: | Again, it's not about prestige, it's about love of | science and research. But yes, you do have a point about | working nights and weekends. It's not as if "the grind" | is not something which is glorified in the tech industry, | though :) | ke88y wrote: | I don't think there is any problem with loving science | and research. | | Deciding to sacrifice your nights, weekends, and | financial life to work on science and research is okay. | But it's also enormously selfish. Other people who spend | time doing "what they love" -- ski bums, for example -- | at least recognize their selfishness as such. | | Being selfish can be okay. But it's probably not great to | be selfish and try to build a life-long partnership. | Especially if you don't realize you are being selfish. | | I won't tell anyone not to ski bum or not to do a PhD. | But I will gut check people when they get confused about | the difference between selfish and selfless dedication to | a craft. An academic career -- the type where you spend | nights and weekends without at least contributing a | modicum of financial comfort to those around you -- is | selfish. | | At the end of the day, most grant-funded projects are | _born_ useless. There isn 't as much of a difference | between ski bumming and PhDing as professors like to | pretend. | BlandDuck wrote: | I am sorry that you feel that way. I know this is a | widespread opinion. My own experience is different. | | I am at now a point as a researcher where I am financially | secure, work on interesting problems, and have time for my | wife and children. My colleagues, junior as well as senior, | seem to be in similar situations. | | To be clear, in my case "focus and neglect" meant working | weekends and evenings and lots of travel for some years | before we had children. I see successful people in other | careers doing the same. | | My current situation does not involve anything remotely | like "pushing shit" or "abusing junior labor". I have no | "hard constraints" and I see no "financial abuse" at my | university. | ke88y wrote: | If your university has a PhD program, we simply have | different definitions of financial abuse. | | I couldn't accept the job and look myself in the mirror | while knowing that not only do my direct reports struggle | to get by and can't save tax-deferred for retirement, but | that I'm one of the only employers in the country who | doesn't even pay FICA taxes. | s5300 wrote: | >>But later, if you succeed, you can make it up to them and | make it worth it for them as well. | | Just incase anybody is unaware - this is _really_ not how | interpersonal relationships work. Especially romantic | interests. You may one day find yourself with a lot of money | /power but nobody who truly loves you (or enjoys your | company) for who you are - or with not much to show for your | years of tunnel visioned neuroticism, symptoms of complete | burnout, & also nobody who loves you. | | I'm not trying to say there's something wrong with dedicating | a large chunk of your life to a pursuit like they've | mentioned - I'm just saying don't be surprised when people | you've neglected have moved on to greener pastures in that | time. | abhayhegde wrote: | I agree that this issue has never been talked enough. I am | doing PhD now and recently went through a breakup which mostly | happened because I could not give enough time for the | relationship. | ke88y wrote: | As a PhD, I now believe that pursuing a career in science is an | enormously selfish and entitled life choice for anyone who | doesn't have a trust fund. | | It's not just neglect during the PhD. Even a non-neglectful | academic is asking _a lot_ of their partner. Stipends are low. | Post-docs require chasing term-limited positions around the | country, often with little to no savings, for up the half a | decade. Building wealth is impossible, having a family is just | barely possible, and the process takes you well into mid-life | depriving your partner of a career and a real relationship. | | I have seen more divorces during post-docs than during PhDs. | | Everyone I know who made it through PhDs and post-docs without | scars fell into one of two categories: unmarried or wealthy. I | think academia's biggest open secret is that a HUGE number of | academics -- especially in and around large metros or in nice | climates -- are chasing a prestigious and comfortable job | because their trust funds allow them to not care about the | money and their upbringing makes it difficult for them to deal | with having a manager. | anonymouskimmer wrote: | > As a PhD, I now believe that pursuing a career in science | is an enormously selfish and entitled life choice for anyone | who doesn't have a trust fund. | | This is because the career was originally set up for those | who were independently wealthy, or at least rich enough to | have a spouse who didn't work. All of this stuff happened | within the last 150 years, and it was made worse in recent | years following the massive increase of skilled people in the | discipline. | | A career in science also differs based on whether you're an | academic or in industry. On whether you're out their seeking | grants, or out making products to sell. | | These are all decisions being made based on what people | demonstrate that they will tolerate. No different than the | Japanese Karoshi-culture. If your Ph.D. or Post-Doc | supervisor won't allow you to have a life outside of science, | then dump them. Leave them up the creek without a paddle. | They are not your only option. | | At its absolute worse, the hours involved in an academic | Ph.D./Post-Doc aren't significantly worse than a chronic | precariat worker. I had two jobs during a particular semester | when finishing up my A.S., and averaged 3.5 hours of sleep | per night (outside of the weekends). I've read about a guy | who spent _years_ walking and taking transit for 8 hours each | day from his house to his 8-hour a day job. 16 hours per day | just dedicated to work. Ultimately his job and /or co-workers | pitched in to buy him a car. | | The harsh hours in scientific academia is ultimately a | choice. And the choice is not between science and a life. The | choice is between science _with this particular supervisor_ | and a life. | reachtarunhere wrote: | One of the points of the talk is emphasis on working on | "important" problems. It does make sense to not work on | incremental things for merely publications so it is definitely | good advice. However once you decide to do so what is "important" | becomes a difficult question. | | I like this article from Daniel Lemire which explores this | further | | https://lemire.me/blog/2010/03/22/so-you-know-whats-importan... | Swizec wrote: | The way I've always interpreted this is that if even you don't | think it's important, why are you doing it? | | Sure you can't accurately predict what will and won't be | important long term, but _you_ should think your work is | important. Whether you're right or wrong time will tell. | reachtarunhere wrote: | Yes my interpretation is that this is more an advice on what | not to do - frivolous stuff you don't believe in | emrah wrote: | > It does make sense to not work on incremental things for | merely publications so it is definitely good advice. | | True but unfortunately this is how funding works based on what | I saw during my time working at various labs. | | You need to provide enough evidence that what you are after is | going to "work". Most of the brand new ideas get resources by | repurposing data from existing funded projects. If you don't | have what you need, you finangle the funded project to produce | the data the new idea needs. | | I'm all for not syncing resources into crazy ideas that will | never work but current state of affairs (it's getting worse) is | too conservative | marcosdumay wrote: | It is important to point out that on his speech (and the book) | he tells people to work on important problems (always on the | plural), and that he never say not to work on non-important | ones. | | In fact, I remember the book having a very clear assumption | that you can't work on important things all the time anyway. | But well, there has been some time since I've read it. But it | is a very sensible and nuanced advice for highly ambitious | people. | gumby wrote: | I heard him give this talk at Ames back in the 80s. The advice | and perspective are worth following even if you don't plan to be | a research scientist. | pighive wrote: | Thanks for sharing this, I came across the same material in a | different format (either slides or may be a video couple of years | back, can't exactly remember). What stuck to me is "If you are | not working on an important problem, your work is not important". | I tried to take a positive spin from this statement by | considering whatever work I am currently doing is important | enough to solve an important problem but it's really hard to | convince yourself after some time when it is clearly not. | Needless to say, I am still looking for that important problem. | shae wrote: | Get the book! It's packed with great content. | ssn wrote: | Any recommendations on similar materials? I.e. advice on how to | manage research. | Sevan777 wrote: | Currently reading The Sciences of the Artificial? by Herbert A. | Simon | rg111 wrote: | "How to Take Smart Notes" by Sanke Ahrens. | | Even if you decide not to use the Zettelkasten method, this | book is still a great read. | Calavar wrote: | I think there is an enormous survivorship bias here. Research | advances come in alternating of periods torrents and droughts, | not in a steady trickle. Hamming, Shannon, and their | contemporaries worked at a time of revolution in computer | science. | | Let's put deep learning aside for a second. Can anyone here name | a single academic in any other subfield of computer science who | had a string of groundbreaking research works where every one of | those works is from 1980 or after? I can't. And that's almost | half a century that we're working with. Many people who defended | their PhDs in the 1980s are already retired. | | This applies to plenty of other fields as well. Medicine, for | instance: There were surgeons in the 1960s and 1970s who have | half a dozen new surgical techniques to their name. (If you want | some examples, look up Michael DeBakey, Mark Coventry, and Thomas | Starzl.) You will not find a single academic surgeon today who | comes even close to that, and at least in my opinion it's not | because modern surgeons lack drive or creativity or the ambition | to tackle big problems. | | Hamming is probably right that the role of luck in the sense of | serendipity is overblown, but he ignores role of luck in the | sense of structural factors that are out of your control. Because | he and his colleagues largely operated in a context where all | those structural factors were completely optimized. | | If you decide to start a PhD in a field 10 years before that | field is destined to hit a multi-decade rut, if your advisor | fails to make tenure partway through your PhD and your lab is | shut down, if you get your first academic appointment in an | environment where research funding is trending down and | regulatory burdens are trending up, these are all factors that | are by and large out of your control that can significantly alter | the trajectory of your career. | kragen wrote: | i agree! hamming even talks about this a bit in his talk | | your chances of doing great research are slim if you're born in | kenya in the 01940s, no matter how much drive and creativity | you have, but that's not because 'research advances' have | 'droughts', it's because you're not being allowed to do great | research, even if plenty of research advances are happening out | of your reach | | (unless you're richard leakey) | | that's what's happened to modern surgeons, nuclear engineers, | aeronautical engineers, chemists, etc. the usa and eu today | have mostly become the kenya of the 01940s, where only the | occasional richard leakey is allowed to excel, and thus we have | entered the so-called great stagnation | | but restrictions are much looser in computer science than in | most fields. we still have: | | - oleg kiselyov (sxml, probabilistic programming, relational | programming and thence the reasoned schemer, type checking as | small-step abstract evaluation, tagless staged interpreters, | stream processing without runtime overhead) | | - dan bernstein (twisted edwards curves including curve25519, | breaking aes with cache timing attacks, nacl, tweetnacl, qmail, | salsa, poly1305, striking down usa export controls, organizing | the pqc conferences) | | - fabrice bellard (qemu, ffmpeg, tcc, lzexe, and bellard's | formula, aside from nncp, which is deep learning) | | - jeff dean and sanjay ghemawat (epi info, leveldb, tensorflow, | bigtable, mapreduce, spanner, 'the google cluster | architecture', lots of internal google stuff, and again a bunch | of deep learning stuff) | | - raph levien (io, advogato, the gnome canvas, libart) | | - graydon hoare (monotone and thence git, rust), and | | - rob pike (blit, utf-8, much of plan9, sawzall, and golang) | | - wouter van oortmerssen (cube/sauerbraten, flatbuffers, amiga | e, false and thus more or less the field of esolangs, lobster, | bla with first-class environments, aardappel, fisheye quake) | | i've left out the people i personally know well | pbadams wrote: | > Let's put deep learning aside for a second. Can anyone here | name a single academic in any other subfield of computer | science who had a string of groundbreaking research works where | every one of those works is from 1980 or after? | | Shafi Goldwasser (Probabilistic encryption, zero-knowledge | proofs, etc.) got her PhD in 1984. | | Leslie Lamport is just a bit before your deadline, his 'Time, | Clocks' paper came out in 1978, but the bulk of his work was | after 1980, including paxos. | | While there's definitely some truth to your Kuhnian view of | 'times of revolution' in a field, I think it's hard to apply | that to recent progress because it may just be that it's not | clear which research works were groundbreaking without the | benefit of hindsight. To me, the revolutionary period of CS | research is still ongoing. | pclmulqdq wrote: | Almost every breakthrough in distributed systems is more | recent. LZW is 1980s. Most data storage systems used today | had their guts invented in the last 40 years, with only the | top layer being older than that. | | If you look at "Computer science" as the narrowly-defined | field of data structure and algorithm design in a vacuum, | maybe things slowed down after 1980, but that's because | problems with different constraints just became more | interesting. | Upvoter33 wrote: | "Can anyone here name a single academic in any other subfield | of computer science who had a string of groundbreaking research | works where every one of those works is from 1980" | | Hennessy and Patterson for their work on RISC Patterson for | RAID Dean and Ghemawat for MapReduce | | That's without thinking. There have been a lot of very | important works since the 1980s. | [deleted] | linguae wrote: | Indeed. The fact of the matter is that today's environment for | researchers is completely different from what it was like in | 1986 when this talk was given, though I mention it not to take | anything away from this talk. The days of places like Xerox | PARC and Bell Labs where researchers had considerable freedom | and autonomy are over and have been for quite some time now. | Many industry labs promote business-driven research instead of | purely curiosity-driven work and expect their researchers to | produce a regular flow of research results that can be | productized, lest they be shown the door. Academia these days | isn't exactly a bastion of freedom, either, with its "publish- | or-perish" pressures needed to secure tenure and remain in good | standing, as well as the need to raise grant money, both of | which require pleasing external reviewers. Thus, successful | researchers under this environment must find a way to manage | the inevitable uncertainties of research while also producing | enough output to make their evaluators happy. I find these | "productivity" metrics stifling, but if I want to continue as a | researcher, it's either play the game successfully or find | another way to make a living. | | I've been thinking long and hard about this for years. Perhaps | researchers who value freedom of inquiry and freedom from | "publish-or-perish" pressures could work independently, perhaps | being funded by fellowships (like the MacArthur Grant), from | part-time work, or from a side business. | jltsiren wrote: | > Let's put deep learning aside for a second. Can anyone here | name a single academic in any other subfield of computer | science who had a string of groundbreaking research works where | every one of those works is from 1980 or after? | | That's because of the nature of the field. CS researchers are | kind of like NPCs or bureaucrats. The technical stuff we do is | not interesting to the general public, but it enables other | people to do more interesting stuff. | | You mention deep learning as an exception. I, as a researcher | in another CS subfield, cannot name a single person who has | done fundamental work in it. | | The "tragedy" of CS is that it's too relevant in the short | term. If someone makes a breakthrough, other people will | probably commercialize it in a decade or two. Afterwards, | history books won't remember the person who discovered the | thing but the company that commercialized it or the product | launched by the company. | asdfman123 wrote: | Related: I'm annoyed by programmers who implore others to study | "worthwhile things." | | I'm guessing most of us were obsessed with computers in our | teens, and the job market just happened to align with one of | our hobbies. | | Kids who are fascinated with classical piano or performance art | don't stumble into lucrative careers unless they're in the top | 0.1%. | dblhumbucker wrote: | I disagree with this sentiment. | | Although I'm not familiar with today's groundbreaking research, | I think dismissing an entire branch of research simply because | it goes against one's argument is a little funny. However, | Hamming specifically states in his lecture that this could be | applied to engineers starting companies, and there are numerous | examples of founders who have started multiple successful | businesses in this area. | | In the lecture series, Hamming explicitly emphasizes the | importance of dedicating time to predicting what the next big | step in one's field would be. He dedicated half of every Friday | to trying to predict the future of computer science. One of the | major points he drives home is that the next breakthrough in | any field will not be what he or anyone else has worked on in | the past. That is why it is worth striving to work on the right | things. | Calavar wrote: | > I think dismissing an entire branch of research simply | because it goes against one's argument is a little funny | | I don't think it goes against my argument at all. Deep | learning is a place where many structural factors are | currently optimized, so it has a glut of prominent | researchers. The big names in deep learning like Hinton, | LeCunn, Bengio took their first post PhD appointments 30 to | 40 years ago. All three put out some good work between 1985 | and 2010, but all three became an order of magnitude more | productive after 2010. They went from being members of a | mostly irrelevant and overlooked research niche (neural | networks were considered a dead end in ML) to being heads of | research at multi-billion dollar companies. If it is really | all about the individual, why weren't they that productive | from the start? What changed? Well, the number of GPU cores | hit an inflection point. Technologies for GP-GPU programming | like cuda reached maturity. | | As I said, there is truth to what Hamming said too. The 1920s | were primed for a revolution in physics, but there were | thousands of physicists contemporary to Einstein, de Broglie, | Heisenberg, and Bohr who didn't do anything of note. So what | set the ones who won Nobel prizes apart from the rest? That's | where Hamming's advice comes in. | | In other words, I can be convinced that Einstein or de | Broglie would have reached the tops of their fields in any | time or place and in nearly any field. But you cannot | convince me that they would have made the history books if | they were marine biologists in the 1990s. It doesn't matter | how hard you think about where the next revolution in your | field will be if there is no revolution to be had. | lambdaloop wrote: | It's funny, I was just thinking about this article this morning. | When I first read it over 10 years ago, this quote really struck | with me: | | > Another personality defect is ego assertion and I'll speak in | this case of my own experience. I came from Los Alamos and in the | early days I was using a machine in New York at 590 Madison | Avenue where we merely rented time. I was still dressing in | western clothes, big slash pockets, a bolo and all those things. | I vaguely noticed that I was not getting as good service as other | people. So I set out to measure. You came in and you waited for | your turn; I felt I was not getting a fair deal. I said to | myself, ``Why? No Vice President at IBM said, `Give Hamming a bad | time'. It is the secretaries at the bottom who are doing this. | When a slot appears, they'll rush to find someone to slip in, but | they go out and find somebody else. Now, why? I haven't | mistreated them.'' Answer, I wasn't dressing the way they felt | somebody in that situation should. It came down to just that - I | wasn't dressing properly. I had to make the decision - was I | going to assert my ego and dress the way I wanted to and have it | steadily drain my effort from my professional life, or was I | going to appear to conform better? I decided I would make an | effort to appear to conform properly. The moment I did, I got | much better service. And now, as an old colorful character, I get | better service than other people. | | > Many a second-rate fellow gets caught up in some little | twitting of the system, and carries it through to warfare. He | expends his energy in a foolish project. Now you are going to | tell me that somebody has to change the system. I agree; | somebody's has to. Which do you want to be? The person who | changes the system or the person who does first-class science? | Which person is it that you want to be? Be clear, when you fight | the system and struggle with it, what you are doing, how far to | go out of amusement, and how much to waste your effort fighting | the system. My advice is to let somebody else do it and you get | on with becoming a first-class scientist. Very few of you have | the ability to both reform the system and become a first-class | scientist. | | I tried to live that way for a couple years. Frankly, I think | this way of living is unnecessarily restrictive. So what if you | get slightly worse service? The clothes you wear and your | expressions highlight your history and your culture. By self- | censoring yourself, you end up just perpetuating the censorship | of other views in the workplace. This goes double for scientists, | as we are rather public facing and have room for wearing | nontraditional clothes within our jobs. | dang wrote: | A perennial. Here are the threads with comments (if anyone finds | others, please let me know!): | | _You and Your Research (1986)_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31796353 - June 2022 (33 | comments) | | _You and Your Research - Richard Hamming_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27451360 - June 2021 (1 | comment) | | _You and Your Research_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25242617 - Nov 2020 (1 | comment) | | _Richard Hamming: You and Your Research (1986)_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24171820 - Aug 2020 (1 | comment) | | _You and Your Research - A talk by Richard W. Hamming [pdf]_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23558974 - June 2020 (1 | comment) | | _You and Your Research by Richard Hamming (1995) [video]_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18505884 - Nov 2018 (10 | comments) | | _You and Your Research (1986)_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18014209 - Sept 2018 (10 | comments) | | _You and your research_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14179317 - April 2017 (1 | comment) | | _You and Your Research, by Richard Hamming_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10280198 - Sept 2015 (1 | comment) | | _You and Your Research_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9279585 - March 2015 (1 | comment) | | _Hamming, "You and Your Research" (1995) [video]_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7683711 - May 2014 (25 | comments) | | _Video of Hamming 's "You and Your Research" (1995)_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5567448 - April 2013 (1 | comment) | | _Richard Hamming: You and Your Research (1986)_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4626349 - Oct 2012 (27 | comments) | | _Richard Hamming: You and Your Research_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3142978 - Oct 2011 (7 | comments) | | _You and Your Research_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=915515 - Nov 2009 (5 | comments) | | _Richard Hamming - You and your research_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=852405 - Sept 2009 (1 | comment) | | _You and Your Research_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=625857 - May 2009 (13 | comments) | | _You and Your Research (1986)_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=542023 - April 2009 (4 | comments) | | _You and Your Research_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=524856 - March 2009 (1 | comment) | | _Richard Hamming: You and Your Research_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=229067 - June 2008 (7 | comments) | | _Why do so few scientists make significant contributions and so | many are forgotten in the long run? - "You and Your Research"_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=52337 - Sept 2007 (11 | comments) | | _You and Your (Great) Research_ - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13218 - April 2007 (6 | comments) | | --- | | Note for anyone wondering: reposts are ok after a year or so | (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html). I'll play the "or | so" card and call this one ok. In addition to it being good for | curiosity to revisit perennials sometimes (just not too often), | HN is also a place for junior users to have the pleasure of | encountering the classics for the first time--an important | function of the site! | teddyh wrote: | On video: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3msMuwqp-o&list=PLctkxgWNSR... ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-05-01 23:00 UTC)