[HN Gopher] Transcending My Father's Abuse
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       Transcending My Father's Abuse
        
       Author : exolymph
       Score  : 23 points
       Date   : 2023-05-06 19:42 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | throwaway_abuse wrote:
       | This hit too close to home that I couldn't finish reading it in a
       | sitting. I had to walk around my apartment a couple of times
       | waiting to relax before coming back to my computer.
       | 
       | I have blanks in my memories too, where my dad told me he hit me
       | (he apologized for it, like in OP). And I remember nothing after
       | "the triggering incident", like in OP.
       | 
       | I also have very bad trust issues now, to the point where it is
       | hard for me to make friends if they insist on having opinions on
       | my life. Relationships have never worked for me, because it takes
       | me forever to open up.
       | 
       | Childhood trauma sucks. Why people take their anger out on
       | innocent kids just trying to understand how the world works in
       | their own ways, is just beyond me.
       | 
       | There's SOO many more positive and healthy ways to raise a child.
       | And realizing that now makes me genuinely teary eyed about all
       | the neural pathways in my brain that were formed or not formed as
       | a result of my parents decisions.
       | 
       | But I'm kind of glad to see so many of my friends being awesome
       | parents, really caring for and listening to their kids. I'm
       | lowkey excited for the next generation, who will be much more
       | open about their thoughts and feelings, and probably more well
       | adjusted as humans.
       | 
       | My pet hypothesis is this will also why the current/next
       | generation is much more open about sexuality / gender / identity,
       | and I expect this to get only more nuanced as science understands
       | more and as people learn to express more. But that's just
       | something I cooked up. Anyone else feel this way?
        
       | Waterluvian wrote:
       | I lost my mom in my late teens. My parents were wonderful.
       | Definitely _well_ above average. I owe them so much.
       | 
       | Something that I've been discovering is that I have two sections
       | of blanks in my memory: the anguish of her being so sick for
       | years, and the times she lost her cool with me.
       | 
       | Both sets of memories have been trickling back decades later. I'm
       | not sure what to share about it in particular, but in general it
       | has been a fascinating and oftentimes horrible sensation. To
       | suddenly have a memory activate for no apparent reason.
       | 
       | I'm incredibly thankful that my wife is the person she is. I'll
       | randomly come into the room holding back tears and she
       | immediately knows what it is and what to do.
       | 
       | I think it's important to speak these things aloud to help
       | further normalize our talking about them.
        
       | throwaway093821 wrote:
       | As someone who similarly has Asian parents that have gone through
       | their own trauma in life, this resonates with me. As a younger
       | child, my parents would hit us with clothes hangers, as this was
       | the only method of discipline that they knew at the time. I don't
       | feel like they realize or acknowledge the effects of that.
       | 
       | While interactions nowadays are rarely negative, I've resolved to
       | cut of communication at some point in the future, after I've
       | alleviated my own guilt by "repaying" them monetarily for all
       | they've done in raising me.
       | 
       | I get yelled at most days still, though.
       | 
       | Most of the electronic devices I've owned over the years have
       | been broken by my dad smashing it after getting frustrated over
       | some aspect of schoolwork related to my usage of such devices.
       | Curiously, this seems to happen after he's had a few drinks.
        
       | inconceivable wrote:
       | i think several decades ago, a lot of people didn't really want
       | kids but had them anyway due to societal/family pressure. my
       | parents were immigrants so the pressure was probably double.
       | mentally both weak, and strong. a paradox.
       | 
       | my dad used to hit me until one day i realized i was heavier than
       | him, and threw him onto the couch and raised my fist to hit him,
       | but didn't. he never tried again.
       | 
       | my relationship with them is fine now (i'm middle aged) but i
       | still don't listen to a god damn thing they say about life
       | advice. quite frankly they don't know their ass from their elbow
       | about how america really works and less than zero about growing
       | up here. most immigrant parents don't, even though they pretend
       | to, for some insane reason.
       | 
       | as for me i'm not having kids, and i don't really do long-term
       | monogamous relationships either (i date plenty). i'm sure my
       | parents are disappointed but quite frankly i don't give a shit.
        
       | dmbche wrote:
       | Thanks to the author for taking the time and effort to have a
       | very heartfelt and deep dive into their personal life -
       | especially on subjects this nuanced.
       | 
       | Their comments on "hurt" rather than bad, and their feeling that
       | they couldn't fight back unless they became "dirty", or just as
       | bad as them, were especially resonant.
       | 
       | Their comments about their dad living through the cultural
       | revolution made me remember the scene in the Three Body Problem
       | where Ye Wenjie confronts the three communist youths that had
       | killed her father many years after the revolution, and they
       | explain that their own suffering and how it brought along her
       | fathers death.
        
       | labrador wrote:
       | I have a similar father and while I never expect to get an
       | apology, I've found peace knowing it's about him and not me. I
       | stopped personalizing it. He's still trapped in the craziness of
       | the world and those who raised him, while I've found a way to
       | manage it so I am not similarly crazy.
        
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