[HN Gopher] Apple just lost its lawsuit trying to ban iOS virtua... ___________________________________________________________________ Apple just lost its lawsuit trying to ban iOS virtual machines Author : mulle_nat Score : 104 points Date : 2023-05-09 21:14 UTC (1 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.techradar.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.techradar.com) | WirelessGigabit wrote: | I thought they dropped the suit 2 years ago... | https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/08/11/apple-settles-law... | omgomgomgomg wrote: | Parallel or something like that lets you run windows on mac os. | | I think thats a fair decision, always found macs looking nice, | but dislike many of the apps. Windows and ms suite on mac is on | my bucket list now. | shmerl wrote: | Apple is being their dumb self trying to ban VMs. | m463 wrote: | but now can I run a virtual machine on an android device? | ipaddr wrote: | Yes.. legally | judge2020 wrote: | Legally you 'can', but does apple have to support it? do | they have to expose those apis to the public? are they | forced to implement them and spend the time to do | validation testing for it? | kurthr wrote: | Depends on what you want to emulate (do you want access to | phone capabilities), but this is the first link I found: | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuUnjO8eUEw | Prickle wrote: | I assume you mean "Can I run a virtual machine of an android | device?" | | The answer is yes. Since forever ago. | | You can find an official guide here: | https://source.android.com/docs/setup/create/avd | jeroenhd wrote: | Currently, you're limited to QEMU with software emulation or | a Linux proot/chroot. KVM support isn't in a stable version | of Android yet but it's coming soon. With an unlocked | bootloader and potentially a few kernel tweaks you probably | could (as well as Windows and any other compatible OS). | | I don't think the experience will be very usable, though. | iPhones contain dedicated hardware that Android devices don't | have (and vice versa) and decent GPU acceleration may be a | long time off with the standard driver quality Android | vendors deliver. | rektide wrote: | You can run Chrome, which has a virtual machine in it. Maybe | not the same kind of virtual machine that you're talking | about, but this is the kind of virtual machine that Apple has | banned: any kind of code that isn't statically compiled, that | isn't immediately readable. This is why Chrome (actual, not | the thin cosmetic shell over Safari WebView available now) | can't ran on iOS. | | Conversely, I have no respect at all for the m-f a-h at | Google who have, in MV3, pulled an Apple and banned anything | but statically compiled code in WebExtensions. Google is | doing the worst thing Apple did, but to the web. And I | absolutely hate it. Hate it hate it hate it hate it. | Abominable way to hurt the web. | https://github.com/w3c/webextensions/issues/139 | gregsadetsky wrote: | Discussed yesterday - | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35866431 | gnabgib wrote: | A three year old article was discussed yesterday (from the | Washington Post, 2020 - referenced in this article) - there | were even comments in thread about the article being dated | (perhaps OP used the wrong URL). This is the result of 11th | circuit appeal of that 2020 judgement (which upholds it), | opened in 2021 and closed.. yesterday. | | Maybe the Bloomberg Law article is a bit clearer ["Apple Fails | to Fully Reboot iOS Simulator Copyright | Case"](https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/apple-fails-to- | revive-c...) ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-05-09 23:00 UTC)