[HN Gopher] Apple just lost its lawsuit trying to ban iOS virtua...
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       Apple just lost its lawsuit trying to ban iOS virtual machines
        
       Author : mulle_nat
       Score  : 104 points
       Date   : 2023-05-09 21:14 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | WirelessGigabit wrote:
       | I thought they dropped the suit 2 years ago...
       | https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/08/11/apple-settles-law...
        
       | omgomgomgomg wrote:
       | Parallel or something like that lets you run windows on mac os.
       | 
       | I think thats a fair decision, always found macs looking nice,
       | but dislike many of the apps. Windows and ms suite on mac is on
       | my bucket list now.
        
       | shmerl wrote:
       | Apple is being their dumb self trying to ban VMs.
        
         | m463 wrote:
         | but now can I run a virtual machine on an android device?
        
           | ipaddr wrote:
           | Yes.. legally
        
             | judge2020 wrote:
             | Legally you 'can', but does apple have to support it? do
             | they have to expose those apis to the public? are they
             | forced to implement them and spend the time to do
             | validation testing for it?
        
           | kurthr wrote:
           | Depends on what you want to emulate (do you want access to
           | phone capabilities), but this is the first link I found:
           | 
           | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuUnjO8eUEw
        
           | Prickle wrote:
           | I assume you mean "Can I run a virtual machine of an android
           | device?"
           | 
           | The answer is yes. Since forever ago.
           | 
           | You can find an official guide here:
           | https://source.android.com/docs/setup/create/avd
        
           | jeroenhd wrote:
           | Currently, you're limited to QEMU with software emulation or
           | a Linux proot/chroot. KVM support isn't in a stable version
           | of Android yet but it's coming soon. With an unlocked
           | bootloader and potentially a few kernel tweaks you probably
           | could (as well as Windows and any other compatible OS).
           | 
           | I don't think the experience will be very usable, though.
           | iPhones contain dedicated hardware that Android devices don't
           | have (and vice versa) and decent GPU acceleration may be a
           | long time off with the standard driver quality Android
           | vendors deliver.
        
           | rektide wrote:
           | You can run Chrome, which has a virtual machine in it. Maybe
           | not the same kind of virtual machine that you're talking
           | about, but this is the kind of virtual machine that Apple has
           | banned: any kind of code that isn't statically compiled, that
           | isn't immediately readable. This is why Chrome (actual, not
           | the thin cosmetic shell over Safari WebView available now)
           | can't ran on iOS.
           | 
           | Conversely, I have no respect at all for the m-f a-h at
           | Google who have, in MV3, pulled an Apple and banned anything
           | but statically compiled code in WebExtensions. Google is
           | doing the worst thing Apple did, but to the web. And I
           | absolutely hate it. Hate it hate it hate it hate it.
           | Abominable way to hurt the web.
           | https://github.com/w3c/webextensions/issues/139
        
       | gregsadetsky wrote:
       | Discussed yesterday -
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35866431
        
         | gnabgib wrote:
         | A three year old article was discussed yesterday (from the
         | Washington Post, 2020 - referenced in this article) - there
         | were even comments in thread about the article being dated
         | (perhaps OP used the wrong URL). This is the result of 11th
         | circuit appeal of that 2020 judgement (which upholds it),
         | opened in 2021 and closed.. yesterday.
         | 
         | Maybe the Bloomberg Law article is a bit clearer ["Apple Fails
         | to Fully Reboot iOS Simulator Copyright
         | Case"](https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/apple-fails-to-
         | revive-c...)
        
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