[HN Gopher] Open-source disposable email service
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       Open-source disposable email service
        
       Author : psarna
       Score  : 43 points
       Date   : 2023-05-12 19:13 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | kanary wrote:
       | Do you plan to shuffle the domain? If this hits scale, sites
       | pretty quickly blacklist domains. imo anonaddy is best at scale
       | but still gets blocked.
        
       | jdthedisciple wrote:
       | Did not receive my test email for some reason
        
       | mteam88 wrote:
       | I would love something like this that forwards to a gmail address
        
         | johnklos wrote:
         | That can't work because Google does content-based filtering.
         | They blame the forwarder for any spam or anything forwarded
         | that's spam-like, and there's no way to designate a source as a
         | legitimate (that is, don't blame it) forwarder.
        
       | itake wrote:
       | Websites like this always seem to shutdown. Now I can't access
       | any accounts I created with them (since I can't password recovery
       | or change the email).
        
         | KomoD wrote:
         | > Now I can't access any accounts I created with them (since I
         | can't password recovery or change the email)
         | 
         | Yeah... _disposable_
        
         | macintux wrote:
         | I've been a happy customer of https://33mail.com/ for years.
         | It's a different style of offering with a similar purpose and
         | apparently a sustainable business model.
        
           | __MatrixMan__ wrote:
           | Fastmail supports something like this, but the process of
           | adding a new outbound alias every time I need one is not
           | streamlined enough, so the conversation goes like this:
           | 
           | > otherperson@ABC.com to burner123@subdomain.mydomain.com:
           | Blah blah
           | 
           | > me@mydomain.com to otherperson@ABC.com: Blah back at you!
           | 
           | > otherpersonABC@ABC.com to me@mydomain.com: Who are you and
           | why are you responding to my message to
           | burner123@subdomain.mydomain.com?
           | 
           | Does 33mail make it easy to continue the conversation under
           | the alias?
        
             | KMnO4 wrote:
             | Yes, 33mail can modify the reply-to so that it proxies the
             | emails back through the alias.
             | 
             | So emailing longrandomstring@33mail.com will reply TO the
             | original address FROM the alias address.
        
         | burnished wrote:
         | I believe this one is for temporary and PUBLIC emails, probably
         | not like anything you have used before if account recovery is a
         | concern.
        
       | browningstreet wrote:
       | I got one of those duck.com addresses but I have no idea what it
       | is or how to re-access it.
        
         | abhinavg wrote:
         | I'm a happy duck.com address user. I can answer these
         | questions:
         | 
         | What it is: It gives you private throwaway email addresses.
         | Instead of signing up for a website with <real>@gmail.com, use
         | <fixed>@duck.com. It will forward the email to <real>@gmail.com
         | after removing any trackers from it. It also lets you generate
         | <random>@duck.com addresses on demand. If you sign up for
         | something with <random>@duck.com, and they start spamming you,
         | you can turn the email address off without doing anything to
         | <real>@gmail.com or <fixed>@duck.com.
         | 
         | How to re-access it: Information about your duck.com address is
         | stored in that browser. If you use the Browser extension, that
         | remembers it. You simply need to log into that email address
         | from your current browser. To do this, visit
         | https://duckduckgo.com/email/, click on "I already have a Duck
         | address", and enter your original <fixed>@duck.com address. It
         | will email you a one-time password to <real>@gmail.com, and
         | you'll be back in again.
        
       | tpoacher wrote:
       | Nice.
       | 
       | I wonder; if you used this with a "one-payment-only" disposable
       | card, to buy stuff without being harassed by subsequent
       | "newsletters" ... is there a way this could backfire
       | spectacularly by virtue of it being a public address?
       | 
       | I'm assuming the answer is probably yes, but I can't think of an
       | obvious reason why.
       | 
       | EDIT: Hm, on second thought, I guess at a minimum you'd have to
       | give a valid address to buy stuff. Unless it's one of those "give
       | us your email to register" at a physical point of sale. Or unless
       | you have things delivered to a local shop you trust or something.
       | dunno.
        
       | mdaniel wrote:
       | this is not "open source," it's source available as the repo is
       | missing any licensing terms. I dunno what the legal standing is
       | of these package management fields
       | <https://github.com/psarna/edgemail/blob/master/Cargo.toml#L5>
       | since I believe at least npm defaults to some very liberal
       | license that almost no one looks at any further and puts a
       | sibling license file in their repo with the actual terms
       | 
       | Also, bold move implementing your own smtpd:
       | https://github.com/psarna/edgemail/blob/master/src/smtp.rs#L...
        
         | burnished wrote:
         | So the absence of a license means it defaults to exclusive copy
         | right, but can advertising it as open source be construed as a
         | 'license'? Or more broadly can express written or verbal
         | permission count?
         | 
         | Just interested in it hypothetically, in practice specifying a
         | license in the text seems like a no brainer
        
           | doodlesdev wrote:
           | > So the absence of a license means it defaults to exclusive
           | copy right
           | 
           | Yes                  >  but can advertising it as open source
           | be construed as a 'license'
           | 
           | I'm pretty sure the answer is no. There are no terms
           | specified, no definition provided to what "open-source" is,
           | and no information as to _what_ is open-source (i.e. the
           | files, the compilation result, etc.).
           | 
           | General consensus with most licensing schemes is to add a
           | license header to the top of every file, or otherwise specify
           | that all files in a certain repository are subject to that
           | license in a clear manner that everyone accessing these files
           | will have access to (i.e. README file).
        
           | mdaniel wrote:
           | I'm for sure not a lawyer, but in my mental model just saying
           | "open source" is not the same as "open source under what
           | license?" since there have been an absolutely staggering
           | amount of discussions on this very site about the distinction
           | between Apache, AGPL, GPL, LGPL, and that's not even getting
           | into the non-free licenses that are often erroneously labeled
           | as "open source"
        
             | doodlesdev wrote:
             | According to the Cargo.toml of that project the code is
             | licensed under both MIT or Apache, whichever you choose,
             | however it's not clear which files are under that license
             | or whether this was even intentional. Generally, you'd
             | expect the project to provide one or more LICENSE files and
             | some explanation about the license in the README, along
             | with license headers on top of every file where that
             | licensing is relevant.
        
       | FpUser wrote:
       | >"All inboxes are public."
       | 
       | What does that mean exactly? Hopefully not that everybody else
       | can look at my "throwaway" inbox.
        
         | racingmars wrote:
         | >>"All inboxes are public."
         | 
         | >What does that mean exactly? Hopefully not that everybody else
         | can look at my "throwaway" inbox.
         | 
         | It means exactly that. This is in the spirit of the old free
         | version of Mailinator. Use a randomly generated string as the
         | local part of the address to prevent others from guessing and
         | looking that that inbox.
        
         | quickthrower2 wrote:
         | Your email address is the secret, so yeah anyone who sends you
         | email can see your inbox.
        
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