[HN Gopher] Pfeilstorch
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Pfeilstorch
Author : georgecmu
Score : 93 points
Date : 2023-05-14 17:49 UTC (5 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (en.wikipedia.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (en.wikipedia.org)
| detrites wrote:
| Warning: if you're sensitive seeing injured animals. Link has an
| image of taxidermy of one. (Though I suppose _all_ taxidermy is
| injured animals one way or another...)
| the_third_wave wrote:
| Animals get hurt all the times - including Homo Sapiens - as a
| fact of life. If you're "sensitive" seeing injured animals I
| can only advise you to look at more injured animals so you can
| get rid of the "sensitivity". Not relish in it, mind you, just
| get rid of it. This is how you get rid of hypersensitivity
| after all, by exposure to whatever it is you're overly
| sensitive to. Avoiding exposure only increases the shock the
| next time you get exposed.
|
| In other words: trigger warnings are counterproductive in that
| they cultivate sensitivities instead of counteracting them.
| jlnho wrote:
| Depends. Some people are heavily traumatized, e.g. from
| childhood abuse. The title provides almost no indication as
| to what the content might be (OK, maybe a little, but only if
| you speak German), so I think it's fair to warn others for
| whom this kind of stuff can be a problem. I agree with your
| sentiment for "regular people", though.
| detrites wrote:
| Hard disagree. Some people are hyper-sensitive due to extreme
| trauma, which can trigger into all kinds of things that can't
| be fathomed by the unaffected.
|
| It's also something particular to this site. The crossover of
| visually-sensitive with those who choose to hang out on one
| of the few text-only sites on the internet is probably high.
|
| The link is bare and with no clue as to the content other
| than it goes to "wikipedia", somewhat of click that could be
| considered to be safe. To me this justifies a warning.
| the_third_wave wrote:
| Words like "safe", "extreme trauma" and "warning" used to
| relate to physical dangers. They are now more often seen
| relating to virtual dangers. Those "virtual dangers" can
| lie behind every link, every image that may pop up, every
| nook and cranny of the ever-expanding virtual netscape.
| They create a culture of fear which does nothing to help
| those "hypersensitive" people.
|
| Here's an example translated to the physical world. Some
| people are scared of spiders, you probably know at least
| one such person. They don't like being confronted with
| octopedal arthropods but they know they will be every now
| and then since spiders simply are a fact of life on this
| planet whether you like them or not. Would the world be a
| better place for these people if every single door leading
| to every single room where conditions might be such as to
| harbour spiders would be affixed with a warning sign
| telling them about the possibility of encountering
| arachnids? Every park, every tree, every bush, every crate
| of fruit, all of them sporting signs warning them about
| spiders "so as to help them in avoiding exposure". I say
| they'd end up mortally afraid of them even if they were
| only mildly annoyed in the beginning.
| FeepingCreature wrote:
| I'm an arachnophobe. If people reliably put "cw spiders"
| on links to spiders, my life would be a bit better. (Not
| a lot, because it's already not that hard to avoid pics
| of spiders online.)
|
| What we're talking about here isn't 'may contain nuts',
| it's 'definitely contains actual nuts'. This link doesn't
| have a "chance" of seeing a stuffed goose with an arrow
| in its neck, that is in fact what is there. Your example
| doesn't fit.
| zichy wrote:
| You seem to be very sensitive to the idea of people watching
| out for each other. Maybe you should start watching out for
| others so you can get rid of your sensitivity.
| [deleted]
| threads2 wrote:
| [flagged]
| hutzlibu wrote:
| "This Pfeilstorch was crucial in understanding the migration of
| European birds. Before migration was understood, people struggled
| to explain the sudden annual disappearance of birds like the
| white stork and barn swallow. Besides migration, some theories of
| the time held that they turned into other kinds of birds, mice,
| or hibernated underwater during the winter, and such theories
| were even propagated by zoologists of the time"
|
| That sounds both funny and bad, but it seems that those
| zoologists did not actually believed the weird shape shifting
| stuff, but rather the more reasonable theory, that they hibernate
| under water.
|
| " This misinformation lasted all the way into the late 1800s,
| when American ornithologist Dr. Elliott Coues listed the titles
| of 182 papers dealing with the hibernation of swallows"
|
| Which had its roots in a rumor " that fishermen in northern
| waters sometimes hauled in mixed catches of fish and hibernating
| swallows"
|
| So it is not that ridiculous, since they did not know yet, that
| birds cannot breath underwater, but they knew that birds could
| dive very long and deep. And fish do hibernate and running water
| is still way warmer, than frozen ground.
| jameshart wrote:
| Wait til you find out where people thought barnacle geese came
| from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnacle_goose_myth
| ThrowawayTestr wrote:
| >Besides migration, some theories of the time held that they
| turned into other kinds of birds, mice, or hibernated underwater
|
| Sentences like these remind you that science is a recent
| invention.
| canjobear wrote:
| How sure are you that you don't hold beliefs that will seem
| ridiculous to people in 300 years?
| raldi wrote:
| Is it really unscientific to consider the possibility that
| birds turn into mice when we see eggs turn into chickens and
| caterpillars turn into butterflies all the time?
| mcculley wrote:
| One of the docks I work on is frequented by a pigeon with a
| blowdart embedded in its neck. I have tried to catch it a few
| times, but I am not sure that removing it would not harm the
| pigeon even worse.
|
| One day I ran across two young men on the dock carrying blowguns.
| I remarked that I was wondering how the pigeon ended up with a
| blowdart in its neck. They claimed that neither of them were the
| ones who shot the pigeon, so it is apparently still a mystery
| which local asshole is putting darts in pigeons.
| tetris11 wrote:
| My mother used to throw stones at sparrows, sprint up to them
| as they were dazed, twist their necks, pull out their feathers,
| and then roast them for a light snack. She relishes telling
| this story every time she sees a small bird resting nearby. Her
| one saving grace in my mind is, "hey at least she ate it."
| bobbylarrybobby wrote:
| Not really any different than eating chicken. At least the
| sparrow got to live a nice life in the meantime.
| haunter wrote:
| A modern spin on this:
|
| SIM card from stork tracking device have been removed somewhere
| in Sudan and someone ended up using it in their own phone racking
| up a huge bill for the environmental group.
|
| https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-44645217
| croisillon wrote:
| 2 years ago (20 comments):
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27918399
| FredPret wrote:
| Imagine being a dude in Africa. You work _so_ hard making your
| arrows nice and straight.
|
| Eventually you end up with maybe 5-10 in your quiver. You
| patiently crawl up to some birds, take aim, and BAM - perfect
| shot right through the throat.
|
| And then the bloody bird flies away _with_ your arrow.
|
| Edit: I also want to add - poor bird. Must take unreal
| determination to fly that far with a near-mortal injury and a
| literal weight around your neck
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