[HN Gopher] It's Time to Embrace Slow Productivity ___________________________________________________________________ It's Time to Embrace Slow Productivity Author : rbanffy Score : 20 points Date : 2023-05-19 20:45 UTC (2 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.newyorker.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.newyorker.com) | wonderwonder wrote: | Its the lack of consecutive days off, 2 is not enough. 3 would | really be a change. I bet I would accomplish just as much during | the week as I do now, workplaces would just have to reduce the | number of useless meetings. I spend 4 - 5 hours a day in meetings | and am still expected to deliver actual code. Kill the meetings, | my code generation would be through the roof. There are several | things wrong with the American knowledge work place. Trapping 10 | - 15 people on calls for half their day is a huge waste of | resources and productivity and leads to less work delivered and | more stress overall. | | Cut my meetings in half and give me Friday, Saturday and Sunday | off and I will show you a 5x developer. | atleastoptimal wrote: | More importantly, I think, with AI automation coming in full | force, we need to decouple one's working hours with their right | to live a comfortable life, especially for the lower and middle | class. | macawfish wrote: | Seriously. Yet the political will to make this happen gets | polluted by bitter, vindictive narrative. I hope we can find | clarity soon to let go of our collective fixation on these | foolish narcissistic "leaders" who continue to divide and | conquer us. Though I suppose that fixation is a symptom of | unresolved junk that might just take generations to work out. | gffrd wrote: | This glosses over the fact that jobs are a central piece--if not | _the_ central piece--of many people's identities in the States. | | We've lost religion and communities as things that define and | provide structure and purpose, leaving us clinging to jobs. | | Is this good? No! It's terrible! We should fix this! | | However, I'm not convinced that workplace stress is a matter of | hours ... it may be a symptom of lack of life beyond work--and I | don't mean in the "there's not enough time" sense. | | I appreciate what Cal Newport advocates for, but it always feels | a little surface. | screwturner68 wrote: | Hours aren't usually the problem I think where a lot of the | stress comes from the fear of getting laid off, losing your | health insurance and having your car/home repossessed. People | that have lived these employee purges never recover fully. | Taywee wrote: | Many people I've met really could use more fulfilling hobbies. | petsfed wrote: | How many of those people feel like they have time to pursue | more fulfilling activities? | | Speaking only for myself, my more fulfilling hobbies feel | like a zero-sum proposition when I factor in taking care of | myself, my kids, my home, etc. What little leisure time | activies I pursue are almost all pursued between the hours of | 9 and 11pm, because _that 's the time I have_. | | I think the OP is right in a lot of ways, that work has | replaced our other social outlets. But its also the case that | just existing costs more, so time formerly spent on hobbies | is now spent on basic lifestyle maintenance, and the time | formerly spent on basic lifestyle maintenance is spent | working, or commuting to/from work (because a lot of people | can't afford to live near they work). | great_psy wrote: | Maybe work became the central piece in people's lives because | they don't have time to devote to other things. | | It's a 40 hour work week, but add in commuting and chores and | decent sleep and you're left with a few hours left for other | things. | | Hard to build an identity around a few hours of something else. | gffrd wrote: | I want to add: I 100% agree about the points on "unlimited | amount of things that could be done" and "unstructured | urgency." | | I'm not sure if this has been found to be an effective | leadership/management tactic ... or if we sleepwalked our way | in to this reality (a la ping pong tables), but it's not good. | davesque wrote: | I feel like there's nothing inherently wrong with having your | work take up most of your mental space. With the way we have | things set up, it seems natural to dedicate most of your | attention to the place that your money comes from. What's wrong | is that employers in the US don't reciprocate that attention. | They're happy to have you committed to them without being | committed to you. The power balance has gotten way out of | whack. Time for unions to make a comeback I guess. | angarg12 wrote: | https://archive.vn/fEoP7 | tortoise_in wrote: | This is true. Only one Sunday is off and the working hours for me | are not fixed! The problem with sales jobs is you have to be | always on the edge. Like edutech. You need to be always around | students and their have continuous followups. For personal life | you have to just manage things in between. I feel I am getting | angry and I have to do course corrections. But it's hard to earn | money at the of the day in certain domains. But yes skills | matters ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-05-19 23:00 UTC)