[HN Gopher] Astrud Gilberto has died
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       Astrud Gilberto has died
        
       Author : brudgers
       Score  : 70 points
       Date   : 2023-06-06 15:19 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | pmarreck wrote:
       | She got paid $120 for her voice work in Girl from Ipanema.
       | 
       | I think that may be the only money she ever saw from that. That
       | is incredible, and the other guys who took credit for this song
       | basically made a fortune off her.
        
         | fortyfivan wrote:
         | The Independent covered her story in depth a year ago.
         | 
         | https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/featu...
        
         | amanaplanacanal wrote:
         | Her voice totally made that song. RIP.
        
           | embit wrote:
           | Equal credit goes to one and only Stan Getz
        
         | youreincorrect wrote:
         | The "other guys" as in Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto (her
         | husband)? You write this as if they were nothing to the song.
        
         | hiccuphippo wrote:
         | One of the other guys was her husband, so she probably enjoyed
         | some of that money.
        
           | ksherlock wrote:
           | And she was getting some strange on the side with one of the
           | other guys (Stan Getz).
        
         | rmsaksida wrote:
         | Girl from Ipanema (Garota de Ipanema) was composed by Tom
         | Jobim, one of the greatest Brazilian composers, and written by
         | Vinicius de Moraes, one of the greatest Brazilian poets. Joao
         | Gilberto, another one of our greatest musicians, also
         | contributed to the song. It was recorded by different singers
         | before the English version with Astrud was ever recorded, and
         | the most famous version in Brazil by far is sung by Tom Jobim
         | himself.
         | 
         | Astrud is actually not that well known in Brazil - she's much
         | more famous abroad. I'm not sure who the "guys who took credit"
         | are supposed to be but I never thought of Garota de Ipanema as
         | being Astrud's song or anything like that. Not to say whatever
         | happened to her wasn't unfair, of course, but her
         | interpretation of the song is one among many. The song is
         | Vinicius and Tom's.
        
           | dr_dshiv wrote:
           | Unless you don't know that; when I listen to it, that song is
           | _all_ about her.
        
             | rmsaksida wrote:
             | I totally get it, but the song is also very famous in
             | Brazil and not because of her.
        
             | Gys wrote:
             | 'Heloisa Eneida Menezes Paes Pinto is the girl from
             | Ipanema.'
             | 
             | https://web.archive.org/web/20131231001337/http://www.jobim
             | ....
        
               | belter wrote:
               | https://www.fatosdesconhecidos.com.br/conheca-a-musa-que-
               | ins...
        
             | digisign wrote:
             | Nope, the singer is watching her walk down the sidewalk.
        
         | oh_sigh wrote:
         | No. It was their song, they deserve the bulk of the credit for
         | it. It was already a hit performed and written in Portuguese
         | before the English version came out. She happened to be in the
         | studio as the wife of one of the musicians when they decided to
         | do an English version, and she was the only one who could speak
         | English among the women there. America was ready for Bossa Nova
         | and the song would have been a hit regardless of who raised
         | their hand that day.
         | 
         | Plus, her entire career was launched with that song.
         | 
         | How much money was there from the album sales even? If a bulk
         | of the remuneration comes from touring like it does today, it's
         | not clear to me how they could even compensate her beyond what
         | she was "given" by becoming a huge star due to the album.
         | 
         | I guess it would be nice to think that everyone involved in
         | something successful becomes fabulously wealthy due to it, even
         | regardless of their original deal, but shouldn't it go the
         | other way too then? If the album flopped, would it be okay if
         | they demanded she give back the $120?
        
       | rmason wrote:
       | I've got a friend who wrote about meeting Astrud Gilberto through
       | contacts in the music business. As a teen he had a crush on her,
       | I think everyone of a certain age certainly did.
       | 
       | Here's how he described her, "She was a 45-year-old woman, in an
       | 18-year-old body, with a 14-year-old mind."
       | 
       | I've learned that in meeting an idol that you how you imagine
       | someone might be is seldom how they really are in real life.
        
       | AlbertCory wrote:
       | Fortunately, we still have Flora:
       | 
       | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flora_Purim
       | 
       | (Not bossa nova, though.)
       | 
       | Personally, except for (maybe) French, Portuguese is the non-
       | English language I most like to hear someone singing in.
        
       | cjohnson318 wrote:
       | I mean, she did a lot. I like Corcovado the best.
        
       | ryanisnan wrote:
       | Why am I reading about this on Hacker News?
       | 
       | edit: Editing to say, I don't mean this in a condescending way,
       | or that this person's passing is irrelevant. I more precisely
       | mean to say that I don't understand how this content is topical
       | to this forum.
        
         | kristopolous wrote:
         | in the future, just flag things you think don't belong. That's
         | the "proper channel" for doing this type of feedback.
        
         | unixhero wrote:
         | If you are a good music nerd, then you know that bossa nova is
         | the bomb and the absolute best thing out there. From there you
         | know about Caetano Veloso, Jorge Ben Jor, Astrud Gilberto and
         | all the other giants from Brazil and that came about during
         | that era.
         | 
         | As such this is a depth first hit on bossa nova which every
         | nerd worth its salt should appreciate.
        
           | fortyfivan wrote:
           | I can't upvote this enough! I've dedicated a good portion of
           | my life to collecting Brazilian records from that era.
           | Expensive, but rewarding hobby.
        
         | gooseyard wrote:
         | Are you disappointed by the experience of having read it?
        
         | speed_spread wrote:
         | She made good coding music.
        
           | ElevenFingers wrote:
           | "astrid gilberto radio [?] - bossanova to code/program to"
        
           | 3wolf wrote:
           | Bossa nova is some of my favorite music to listen to while
           | working. It's mellow, soothing, but never boring. Also, being
           | in a foreign language helps minimize distraction. RIP
        
       | denvaar wrote:
       | One of my favorite recording of her was on a Dutch TV show.
       | Pretty cool footage https://youtu.be/13YKO0Vwz8E
        
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