[HN Gopher] List one task, do it, cross it out
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       List one task, do it, cross it out
        
       Author : Tomte
       Score  : 242 points
       Date   : 2023-06-09 06:02 UTC (1 days ago)
        
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       | pengaru wrote:
       | > What's true of both the crisis situation and the daily
       | situation is that at any given moment, you can only ever actually
       | be doing one thing.
       | 
       | Sometimes you can organize your work such that while yes,
       | technically you're just doing one activity, you're making
       | progress on multiple todo entries simultaneously.
       | 
       | I think that's an important facet of effective "multi-tasking";
       | it has more to do with how you organize your work than being good
       | at context switching. Sortof akin to enabling SIMD use by
       | organizing the data such that it's applicable.
       | 
       | A practical example is I have this long-term excavation/grading
       | project on my property that needs eventual doing. The dirt here
       | is mostly sand, and I often mix stucco/concrete for projects. By
       | deliberately sourcing the dirt from areas I need to excavate
       | anyways, I'm making progress on the grading project when I'm
       | making pavers or whatever needing sand.
        
       | geerlingguy wrote:
       | For me, I loved the idea of WIP in the agile system we adapted at
       | one workplace:
       | 
       | Instead of one thing, we would allow up to two WIP projects per
       | person, but there was a priority and a follow-up.
       | 
       | I still do this day to day with Trello.
       | 
       | I have a "Doing" column and what's on top is what I'm doing.
       | Besides procrastination, I don't allow myself to do anything else
       | until that's done. Sometimes I add a checklist inside that Trello
       | card if it's a more complex task, then check off tasks one by
       | one.
       | 
       | The second card can be worked on if absolutely necessary (like
       | lining up a meeting or working on some background that's required
       | a month beforehand).
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | Besides procrastination??? Isn't procrastination the most
         | difficult issue? ;)
        
           | geerlingguy wrote:
           | Haha yes... but I've learned just to live with it. I don't
           | know why, but I kinda have to devote 20-40% of my week to
           | procrastination.
           | 
           | Otherwise I would have no karma on HN!
        
       | girafffe_i wrote:
       | This rang true at a very deep level. Thanks for linking.
       | 
       | I just put this into similar words for the first time this week.
       | It's the ambiguous priority that kills my productivity. It's
       | debilitating and overwhelming. "Just do one thing. Any thing." Is
       | something that I've been focusing on, even though I have had past
       | feedback about prioritizing the wrong things, it's better than
       | nothing.
        
       | ghaff wrote:
       | I'm absolutely not a productivity system person but there are a
       | few Getting Things Done suggestions that resonate with me (even
       | if I don't always follow them).
       | 
       | If you can do something quickly and have the time, just do it.
       | 
       | (Also appreciate that certain things may lead to other things and
       | that your 5-minute task may be opening up a can of worms. But if
       | it's an expense report, probably just do it already.)
       | 
       | Break projects into actionable sub-tasks. Now, mind you, I may
       | not be sure about one or more aspects of the project--and even if
       | I need to do it at all--and find it's OK just to let it sit on a
       | list even if that's somehow taking up brain space.
       | 
       | Separate calendar and to do list. (I do list rough to dos in my
       | paper weekly calendar but don't list them on my electronic
       | calendar unless they really have to happen on a particular day.)
        
         | TeMPOraL wrote:
         | I used to love GTD. I've been using it - or rather trying to
         | use it, then increasingly personalized variations of it - for
         | almost two decades. I still appreciate the wisdom there, but I
         | wish someone would've told me 15 years ago that it assumes a
         | certain way your brain is wired. Maybe it's good for the
         | majority, but it still sucks to be the one with a brain that
         | requires inverting or replacing some of the book's ideas.
         | 
         | Like, keeping your head clear is a wonderful selling point, but
         | externalizing all the tasks also makes them no longer feel like
         | they matter much. Keeping a list of projects and next actions
         | is a good idea in theory, but much harder to benefit from in
         | practice, when your visual system starts erasing the TODO list
         | from your visual field, like it was a piece of negative space,
         | an external equivalent of the blind spot in your eyes.
         | 
         | > _But if it 's an expense report, probably just do it
         | already._
         | 
         | Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I've never had an expense
         | report that took me less than 2 hours to complete. Usually it's
         | half a day, as it involves scanning and attaching receipts.
         | 
         | > _Break projects into actionable sub-tasks._
         | 
         | To this day I have a really big problem with the "actionable"
         | part. My attempts always end with tasks that are either too big
         | (and therefore too scary), underspecified (actionable, but not
         | to completion - always getting blocked by something mid-way),
         | or overspecified (20 steps, half of which take less time to get
         | done than it took to write them down, and getting 1/3 through
         | the steps usually invalidates most of the rest anyway). I just
         | don't know how to get to that magic point of actionable tasks
         | that you can just pick and do.
         | 
         | > _Separate calendar and to do list._
         | 
         | This is interesting in that for people with ADHD, this advice
         | gets reversed: it's more important to have _one_ system for
         | everything, as the more of them you have, the less likely it is
         | you 'll actually use any of them. Don't know how widely this
         | applies, but it's definitely true for me.
        
           | ilyt wrote:
           | I kinda wish for a mix of todo/calendar system where I could
           | say, for example "remind me of this maintenance task in 6
           | months" and it would disappear out of anything directly
           | visible for that 6 months then pop up in todo list without
           | due date, as just a thing to do.
           | 
           | Calendars are good for stuff that needs to be done at this
           | exact date and hour but not great if it is just some routine
           | maintenance task that can be easily shifted a month in any
           | direction (say "replace oil and filters on car")
        
             | ghaff wrote:
             | > I kinda wish for a mix of todo/calendar system
             | 
             | I imagine there are various ways you can do this with
             | existing tools. I just mostly find it useful to separate
             | calendaring from needs to be done in the next month or two
             | from bigger/more aspirational/not fully defined projects.
             | So I generally (if loosely) separate them into different
             | spaces.
             | 
             | The main thing IMO is not to put stuff with loose (and
             | maybe never) dates on your calendar where you now have 50
             | overdue items on your calendar which just encourages never
             | wrapping anything up. (Worked with someone like that once.)
        
               | TeMPOraL wrote:
               | > _The main thing IMO is not to put stuff with loose (and
               | maybe never) dates on your calendar where you now have 50
               | overdue items on your calendar which just encourages
               | never wrapping anything up._
               | 
               | Thank you. This killed all my attempts at planning using
               | Org Mode and agenda views. I'd schedule a few things for
               | the day, and then invariably fail to do half of them, and
               | then they would show up on next day's agenda, sorting
               | above that day's planned tasks, and displayed with
               | emphasis. This was both distracting and created an
               | "emotional repulsion field" for the agenda view, leading
               | to more tasks not completed, and a week down the line, my
               | agenda view would have 20+ items due days ago.
               | 
               | The second-to-last time around, I started pushing due
               | dates on those incomplete tasks into the future. But this
               | didn't help anything - soon enough, I'd be staring at an
               | incoming blast wave of random uncompleted tasks, which I
               | then had to push back again some more. The system
               | eventually collapsed under the emotional weight.
               | 
               | Last time around, I forced myself to simply unschedule
               | such incomplete tasks - remove due dates from them
               | entirely. But that only cut to the thing I still haven't
               | figured out (one of many such things): how to represent
               | tasks that have some temporal component to them, but a
               | fuzzy or flexible one. Like, "do X anywhere between next
               | Friday and Tuesday in the week after - but I don't want
               | to be reminded of X before that very Friday". Or, "do X
               | somewhere between September and November".
               | 
               | Basically, trying to walk a narrow line between the
               | system being not specific enough to be useful, and being
               | so overwhelming that it actually makes everything worse.
        
           | ghaff wrote:
           | >Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I've never had an
           | expense report that took me less than 2 hours to complete.
           | 
           | For a big international trip, it can definitely take a while.
           | But I also have a lot of monthly cell phone bill, went into
           | town for a customer visit, etc. that really don't take very
           | long. (They're still more of a hassle than I'd like but they
           | have to be done and they're pretty quick.)
           | 
           | ADDED: I do get the unification aspect, but I personally like
           | the separation between this has to happen on or by this date,
           | needs to get done within some reasonable time horizon, and
           | maybe/someday projects.
        
       | superposeur wrote:
       | I use a variation of this I call now-and-next: write down a "now"
       | task and "next" task, do the "now" task, switch "next" to "now",
       | write a new "next" task, and repeat.
       | 
       | My spouse saw me doing this and adopted the technique. When
       | things get overwhelming, we say: "let's now-and-next it".
        
       | krm01 wrote:
       | Does anyone who recognizes himself in the persona of the article
       | have any insights into handling long todo lists. I understand the
       | idea if listing one task, but you inevitably have a list of
       | dozens of stuff. So even if you make a seperate list with one to
       | focus on, I seem to push down certain things for ever. Tending to
       | pock and choose the easy or very urgent ones.
        
         | thestepafter wrote:
         | I've heard it said that if it's important enough to you then
         | you will give it the time it needs. Either spending time with
         | certain people or when working. For long lists, pick the task
         | that's most important to complete and do it. Then pick the next
         | most important task and repeat.
        
           | krm01 wrote:
           | From experience what ends up happening sometimes, and the
           | reason why I asked, is that pushing some tasks down for too
           | long you end up working on them too late. Causing more
           | problems later.
        
       | balaji1 wrote:
       | Students (in some parts of the society), sometimes up to the age
       | of 25, are put on rails and it is always obvious what needs to be
       | done next.
       | 
       | Once in the "wild", most individuals are forced to make their own
       | path. On top of that, minor tasks and chores pile up, leading to
       | decision fatigue. Very few things are fulfilling. It's hard I
       | guess. And that seems to be the topic in Oliver Burkeman's book
       | 4000 weeks.
        
         | BlargMcLarg wrote:
         | Eh, from a 'different society', school stopped holding my hand
         | going into adulthood and gave me far more freedom than any job
         | has ever done so far. Most jobs had more in common with
         | elementary school, trying to control most aspects. Only
         | elementary school did the feedback loop far better.
         | 
         | None of that stopped procrastinating. Most people fill the
         | excess time allotted regardless.
        
         | bsder wrote:
         | > On top of that, minor tasks and chores pile up
         | 
         | This. So much this.
         | 
         | "Rich" people often have so much time available to them because
         | they make enough money to offload _all_ the minor tasks
         | (shopping for basic needs, government paperwork and
         | bureaucracy, scheduling appointments, etc.).
        
         | balaji1 wrote:
         | I noticed the phrase "accelerating world" on
         | https://www.oliverburkeman.com/books. Nice wording. A lot of
         | people feel it.
        
           | Tomte wrote:
           | See also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartmut_Rosa
           | 
           | A German sociologist who coined the Akzelerationszirkel
           | (circle of acceleration).
        
           | miahwilde wrote:
           | Here's a thought: what if it's less that the rate of change
           | is increasing and more that our mental models of the world
           | tend to solidify as we age such that the perceived rate of
           | change of the world increases. This is more an observation of
           | the "the world was a lot simpler when I was young" mentality
           | rather than a comment on the long range compounding effects
           | of technology though they might be related.
        
             | balaji1 wrote:
             | Your phrasing is also super interesting.
             | 
             | > mental models of the world tend to solidify as we age
             | 
             | Mental models solidifying over time might be true. But
             | "acceleration" is a shared experience for entire
             | generations (of peers). It seems a broad enough experience
             | that it is more than perceived. Like a grandma is content
             | to read books instead of being on top of HN, etc.
             | 
             | Solidified mental models also gives perspective on life and
             | its direction. And people tend to converge on few similar
             | timeless mental models on a meta level.
             | 
             | > long range compounding effects of technology
             | 
             | It's correct, most modern systems are enabled by better
             | tech at its root. But the collective will of humanity (at
             | least right now) is to leverage tech to push it further.
             | Instead of a sinusoid where we take time to fix unintended
             | side-effects we created (like pollution, resource
             | depletion, re-assess education, etc).
        
             | jamiek88 wrote:
             | You deffo have something there, we do ossify if we aren't
             | careful or we aren't naturally childlike (Feynman type
             | curiosity), but I think it's also true that acceleration is
             | happening.
             | 
             | I mean that's pretty objective.
             | 
             | In my own lifetime (only in my 40's!) social norms and
             | expectations have rapidly changed as has the constant sense
             | of urgency injected into the zeitgeist by profit making
             | 24hr news and social media.
             | 
             | Propaganda was something you read about in history books
             | (naively) not something you were bombarded with constantly
             | by both anti and pro political positions.
             | 
             | When teens went home they had relief from social pressure
             | now they are never, ever, alone with their thoughts.
             | 
             | Fall asleep clutching their iPhones wake up to 100 missed
             | messages.
             | 
             | Ever seen a normally popular teens phone light up? I got a
             | sense of panic and said 'what's wrong? What's happened?'
             | And they just looked at me weird. What? This is normal?
             | 
             | My phone only blows up like that when there is a disaster!
        
               | ghaff wrote:
               | I have a minimum of notifications turned on. I'll
               | sometimes be in a work group chat for a customer meeting
               | or something. But otherwise push notification traffic is
               | pretty low. And sometimes I'm polling a lot but I can
               | turn that off.
        
               | balaji1 wrote:
               | wish all the teens (and adults, at least the adults) were
               | so intentional and in control. Most most most people are
               | really not in control over their phone use; no one can
               | deny that.
        
               | jamiek88 wrote:
               | Me too but my mental well being doesn't require constant
               | contact and social communication.
               | 
               | In fact it depends on the opposite.
        
             | ilyt wrote:
             | Sure but there is definitely more access to info about what
             | is happening in the world so stuff someone might've had
             | simplistic view on 20 years ago now can be researched and
             | looked at by anyone that wants.
             | 
             | I also think the fact many people work in not really all
             | that creatively stimulating jobs to begin with have a lot
             | of effect on that. When you are at school you learn
             | something new every day and are occasionally facing
             | different mental challenges, when you work at retail not
             | really.
        
             | 13of40 wrote:
             | It's kind of interesting that emotionally I agree with that
             | feeling, but if you just look at the fact that I'm reading
             | what you wrote in real time from the most remote island
             | chain in the world, and with a couple of finger swipes I
             | could switch apps and buy a buggy whip with one click...I
             | mean just imagine what you would have to do to buy a buggy
             | whip in 1985.
        
               | wholinator2 wrote:
               | What the hell is a buggy whip? And if you couldn't buy
               | one, what's stopping you from making one
        
             | wizzwizz4 wrote:
             | It might also be increased _awareness_ of changes. There
             | are many things in my personal history that I viewed as
             | normal, constant things, but that were actually changing
             | _significantly_ all the while I was learning about their
             | natures.
        
         | pessimizer wrote:
         | I think this a problem that LLMs can help with. If you feed
         | them your goals, they can give you a program back, and adjust
         | that program based on changing circumstances.
        
           | helmholtz wrote:
           | Oh my god can we just have radio silence from fucking LLMs on
           | one thread please!
        
             | hillcrestenigma wrote:
             | Applying LLMs or AI to our schedules isn't an unreasonable
             | idea. If it could improve our own productivity even just
             | slightly, I would consider that a win. It would be
             | democratizing the effects of value add from traditional
             | assistants to everyone.
             | 
             | I think good ideas sometimes come from connecting two
             | concepts that seem unrelated, and we shouldn't really
             | silence any of these ideas.
        
       | barbariangrunge wrote:
       | This algorithm works well if you know what to do next. And how to
       | do it. And when you have what you need to do it, or know when
       | you'll get it. And you're sure it's the right thing and you won't
       | second guess it as you go. And you didn't forget something
       | important like exercise or personal time. And your body/emotions
       | are ready the same time you need them to be. Which is often, but
       | not always
        
       | mrbombastic wrote:
       | I do something similar to this with my dead simple todo list.
       | there is no TODO section a MAYBE section a DOING section and a
       | DONE section, only one thing ever in the DOING section until it
       | is crossed out, if you come across some rabbithole add it to
       | TANGENT section and resist urge to do it, once you are done with
       | your task pick another one from MAYBE. It sounds dumb because it
       | is basically the same thing but TODO sections stress me out and
       | bring about that foreboding feeling that you will never get it
       | all done, and they always grow never shrink. A lot of times i'll
       | look at the MAYBE section the next day and some things just
       | aren't as important as I thought or somebody else did it. Like I
       | said dumb and simple but thats why i like it.
        
         | TeMPOraL wrote:
         | I have a question that's maybe super naive, but it's something
         | I'm struggling with: that one designated item in the DOING
         | session, what happens when it turns out to be a big challenge,
         | perhaps a multi-day one, something you just can't possibly do
         | in one sitting? I mean, obviously, you should push it back to
         | TODO section and pick something else, but how do you deal with
         | the associated feelings of frustration and powerlessness?
        
           | borg16 wrote:
           | not the author of the comment, but try breaking down the
           | bigger task into smaller achievable tasks and add those into
           | the DOING section? This should address the issue you are
           | asking about.
        
             | TeMPOraL wrote:
             | This defeats GP's idea (and the idea from the article) of
             | only having one task at a time in the DOING section.
        
           | mrbombastic wrote:
           | I create another note dedicated to that big task with the
           | same rules, and try to find the simplest first thing you can
           | do for that task, and put that in DOING section, rinse and
           | repeat until the big task is done. Or if it is too big to do
           | in one go just call it Big task part 1 and timebox it with
           | the same approach. Tomorrow if it is still a priority make a
           | Big task part 2. Edit: about feelings of powerlessness when I
           | am feeling particularly useless or like I am struggling to
           | get things done I make my DOING items laughably tiny, like
           | "get the project running" "find file related to the bug" or
           | even something as simple as "create a branch" that way I get
           | a little dopamine from checking boxes and I can build some
           | momentum.
        
       | nchudleigh wrote:
       | I think this is why I love incident response.
       | 
       | "In an emergency, that whole tangle of self-absorption lifts,
       | because "what needs to be done" is usually so obvious that
       | nobody, not even my inner critic, could reasonably disagree. For
       | a certain kind of person - and I'm definitely one of them - this
       | total absence of ambivalence feels freeing, even disconcertingly
       | elating, never mind the fact that what's unfolding around me is
       | unquestionably bad."
        
         | agumonkey wrote:
         | I tend to feel better in semi critical situations due to that.
         | Less friction, higher focus. Some people are even addicted to
         | these because it feels like a healthier deeper challenge.
         | 
         | ps: and in an extrapolated variant, i remember reading an
         | article about vietnam us army vet saying they can't live in
         | society anymore because was has near zero ambivalence and they
         | prefer it.
        
         | gumby wrote:
         | I think this is the reason deadlines work so well for some
         | people: the need to finish task X before tomorrow
         | autodeprioritizes everything else.
        
           | tommilukkarinen wrote:
           | Lovely insight.
        
           | TeMPOraL wrote:
           | That works nicely until your brain figures it out and it
           | stops working - instead of "autodeprioritizing everything
           | else", it just cranks up the fear of impending failure to the
           | point nothing has any priority because you can barely think
           | straight...
           | 
           | For me, this switch happened somewhere between my last year
           | at university and my second job. As a part of it, I lost the
           | ability to "pull off all-nighters" - not in the sense of
           | being able to stay awake that long, but in the sense of being
           | able to do anything useful in that time.
        
             | mckirk wrote:
             | I can definitely relate to that. I don't think it's
             | necessarily an effect of your brain 'figuring out the
             | trick', but more an issue of a part of your 'identity'
             | getting shifted in an unhelpful direction.
             | 
             | When I was younger, I was absolutely sure that I'd pull off
             | whatever was required of me, even if that meant doing
             | everything under a ton of pressure. But at some point, the
             | circumstances just didn't allow that anymore... And after
             | the first time that this paradigm didn't work out anymore,
             | I didn't have this reassuring surety anymore either, which
             | was a big part of why it always did work out before I
             | think.
             | 
             | So now I just tell people to be careful with their personal
             | 'axioms', and to not stress them to a breaking point.
        
               | wholinator2 wrote:
               | I can also relate that pulling off all nighters at school
               | tended to be at least a little rewarding. Either i was
               | learning something interesting or building something cool
               | but the similar calibre problems at work don't have the
               | same allure. If I'm doing the same at work it either
               | means work was incorrectly planned and now I'm expected
               | to fix that, or someone else broke something
               | unnecessarily and now I'm expected to fix that. It's just
               | an entirely negative context to extra work now. I'm not
               | really learning anything, I'm not getting paid more, I'm
               | not getting a cool project out of it. It's just an
               | accidentally (sometimes) manufactured catastrophe that
               | someone with more money or power has declared is my fault
               | or responsibility. I definitely do much better in
               | academia
        
         | abbadadda wrote:
         | Unfortunately, incident response was the first thing that I
         | thought of also. You might be an SRE if? :-)
        
         | ilyt wrote:
         | I like it because it cuts bikeshedding and people meandering
         | endlessly on possible ideal solution
        
           | TeMPOraL wrote:
           | I like it because it provides a socially acceptable excuse to
           | tell other people to GTFO and let me focus. Otherwise, I tend
           | to be distracted by requests from other people. Often
           | imagined ones. It's really probably just me who needs to
           | convince myself that yes, I can say "no", and yes, I can stop
           | thinking about every other obligation and expectation while
           | focusing on the task at hand. A crisis temporarily eliminates
           | this entire problem.
        
       | pontifier wrote:
       | I have a cleaning technique I call ant mode. A colony of ants can
       | accomplish a lot. They can move immense amounts of materials, and
       | create well organized groupings of things.
       | 
       | In ant mode, I pick up one thing, and then I put it in a place it
       | belongs.
       | 
       | If I don't know where it belongs, I put it down with something
       | else of the same type. I'm only ever picking up one thing, I'm
       | only ever putting it down in one spot. I envision myself becoming
       | a colony of ants.
       | 
       | It's very helpful when moving lots of things from one spot to
       | another, and I pretend that I am one of multiple ants making the
       | same trip back and forth. It's surprising how effective it is
       | because there's no thought required. No second guessing. There's
       | no wondering what to do next, it's just pick up something out of
       | place and move where it belongs.
       | 
       | The best thing about ant mode, is that I can stop anytime, and
       | I've accomplished something. Things are better than I found them.
        
         | southwesterly wrote:
         | I do ant more too. I'm going to call it any more now.
        
           | mucle6 wrote:
           | Not roasting you, just pointing out something interesting
           | 
           | I've never seen 3 typos that "mutate" the word into a valid
           | word, in one sentence or comment
           | 
           | > I do ant more too. I'm going to call it any more now.
        
             | solumunus wrote:
             | Not that hard to imagine if they have autocorrect on a
             | mobile.
        
               | flatline wrote:
               | Most of my typos of this sort come from turning auto
               | correct _off_ , because I do not like it rewriting my
               | language when it guesses a word completely wrong.
        
               | wholinator2 wrote:
               | Yeah, just kind of crazy that so many people don't proof
               | read their comments anymore. I swear the number of easily
               | spotted and fixed typos is getting ridiculous. I typed
               | this on my phone and if i didn't constantly fix mistakes
               | in word prediction it would be an unreadable mess.
               | 
               | It's gotten so bad that I'm left either to assume that
               | most people out here either don't know English very well
               | or are roughly code bots. Read your own comments before
               | you post, people!
        
               | doubled112 wrote:
               | I made a few of the off-by-one kind of typos with clients
               | and coworkers really early on in my career, and learned
               | to always always proofread before I ended up having a
               | chat with HR for something completely unintentional.
               | 
               | Examples:
               | 
               | Mild kitty indigestion -> Milf kitty indigestion
               | 
               | Is your free/busty time showing correctly now?
        
               | RheingoldRiver wrote:
               | I'm gonna guess not autocorrect, but swype/swiftkey. y is
               | next to t and d is adjacent to r. SwiftKey absolutely
               | butchers me like this when I type slightly unfamiliar
               | words, especially if I'm going fast. It would _never_ let
               | me type  "ant" if I haven't already typed it once
               | normally. And "more" being preferred over "mode" isn't
               | that hard to believe too.
        
       | scarface_74 wrote:
       | My first job out of college way back in 1996, I was a hybrid
       | computer operator for a backup site for a state lottery and a
       | "programmer". My manager told me when shit hits the fan and if we
       | did have to take over from the primary site, I would be fielding
       | calls left and right and people would be breathing down my neck -
       | including my skip manager and people from the business side. We
       | had a stupid high SLA and steep fines for being down.
       | 
       | He said ignore everyone and talk through the checklist of the
       | step I was taking on the checklist. I had permission to tell
       | everyone including him to give me some breathing room. In other
       | words - do one thing at the time.
       | 
       | I've taken that to heart in my personal and professional life for
       | the last 25+ years.
       | 
       | It's especially helpful when shit hits the fan at a job and I
       | need to prepare for my next move. I've developed a "it's time to
       | prepare for another job" checklist that I can activate at a
       | moments notice.
        
         | codetrotter wrote:
         | > I've developed a "it's time to prepare for another job"
         | checklist that I can activate at a moments notice.
         | 
         | Did you ever have to activate said checklist? If so, at what
         | time or what times?
        
           | scarface_74 wrote:
           | 6 times since 2012 and I'm preparing for the 7th just in
           | case. I work for the BigTech company known for its "PIP
           | culture". It hasn't happened yet to me. But it always could.
           | 
           | 1. Warm up my network. Reach out to people on LinkedIn, meet
           | coworkers and former coworkers for lunch whenever I'm in
           | their city (my wife and I "nomad" six months a year) and
           | recruiters. There are a few recruiters I've met in person who
           | know the industry and the players.
           | 
           | 2. Prepare my "career document" - ie a longer form of a
           | resume where I list my accomplishments in STAR format so I
           | have talking points for my soft skill interviews.
           | 
           | 3. Update my resume
           | 
           | 4. Clean up my open source portfolio. This is new. I work in
           | a department where it is easy to put the reusable parts of
           | client facing work through our open source approval process.
           | It usual takes two weeks. It's MIT license so I can fork it
           | from our official repos and continue working on it.
           | 
           | Notice I didn't say "grind leetCode" (tm)
           | r/cscareerquestions. I'm 50 years old. I haven't done a
           | coding interview since 2012 and that was my first time and
           | I'm still an active coder as part of my job. If we can't talk
           | like adults and I can't convince a company the value I bring,
           | it's not a place I'm going to work.
           | 
           | As far as when:
           | 
           | - 2008: at a company for nine years through four
           | acquisitions. I had become an "expert beginner".
           | 
           | - 2012: a startup was on its last legs. We all knew it and I
           | was one of the tech leads who they trotted out to to talk to
           | potential investors and acquirers.
           | 
           | - 2014: Working for the company that Jack Welch expanded on a
           | house of cards.
           | 
           | - 2016: working on a "tiger team" at a satellite office until
           | the old guard pushed out my skip manager and my manager who
           | was brought in to modernize them.
           | 
           | 2018: company acquired by a private equity company. I was the
           | tech lead and the company said they "didn't want to be a
           | software company"
           | 
           | 2020: the first time I didn't purposefully activate it. The
           | opportunity to work at BigTech fell into my lap (cloud
           | consulting department). I was happy where I was.
           | 
           | Present: I stay prepared. But figure between savings and
           | severance if things start going crazy, I have a window to
           | either get a full time job or _someone_ is going to pay me
           | for consulting especially with my current credentials.
        
         | cardy31 wrote:
         | I would also love to see that checklist!
        
           | scarface_74 wrote:
           | See my previous reply
        
         | barbariangrunge wrote:
         | What's the checklist have on it?
        
           | scarface_74 wrote:
           | See my previous comment
        
       | POiNTx wrote:
       | I used to do this. Not anymore as I feel I can do it without
       | having to write it down nowadays.
       | 
       | I even wrote a little app for it: https://todo.wout.space/
        
       | sidcool wrote:
       | Is there a relation between the quality of content and the ratio
       | of posts' points to the number of comments (beyond a certain
       | threshold)?
        
       | klyrs wrote:
       | The waterfall approach plus tunnel vision. Highly effective for
       | getting things done in a team of one with no overarching goals.
        
       | karmakaze wrote:
       | I've heard this similarly expressed as "Eating the Frog"[0] which
       | is the singular version of "Warren Buffet's Two Lists"[1].
       | 
       | [0] https://todoist.com/productivity-methods/eat-the-frog
       | 
       | [1] https://jamesclear.com/buffett-focus
        
       | chrisgd wrote:
       | I think lists also serve the purpose of getting your tasks out on
       | paper. If I am working on 4 projects, I need to be constantly
       | reminded of those tasks and need to break them down into smaller
       | tasks. Getting Things Done is an effective method, but all of
       | these things, including this method, require real effort. There
       | is just no way around the fact that there is effort required.
        
       | Rainymood wrote:
       | I have one notebook that I carry around where I list tasks just
       | in order to cross them out. There is something so viscerally
       | satisfying in crossing out a task that just provides so much
       | momentum to whatever I'm doing. There's just something beautiful
       | about making the implicit explicit and then striking it through.
        
         | ghaff wrote:
         | I have been known to list a bunch of sometimes fairly trivial
         | stuff I need to do in a day in my notebook calendar. And it is
         | very satisfying to cross a half-dozen things off.
        
       | lelanthran wrote:
       | I made a tool to help me do _exactly this!_ I even made a HN post
       | about it, after making some HN comments about how well it is
       | working for me.
       | 
       | (It's
       | https://github.com/lelanthran/frame/blob/master/docs/FrameIn...
       | in case anyone is interested).
        
       | ftxbro wrote:
       | ok but if anyone sees your weird little list of normal activities
       | that have been written down and crossed out they are going to
       | suspect some kind of pathological loss of executive function, i'm
       | not saying that's how it should be, but that's what they are
       | going to actually assume
        
       | 0zemp3c wrote:
       | [flagged]
        
       | satisfice wrote:
       | I guess I'm the only one to speak up for the silent majority:
       | 
       | I say: No!
       | 
       | Take your cognitive reductionism and shove it. Take your
       | mechanical life hacks to your Mars colony, if you want to, but
       | I'll stay on the green hills of Earth and live a natural, flowing
       | life.
       | 
       | Advice like this is tossed out as if there is no cost to
       | following it. The cost is self-alienation! This is a practice
       | that encourages self-enslavement!
       | 
       | My super-ego is not the boss of me. Respect your procrastination,
       | man. Procrastination is a message from your unconscious. Ignore
       | it at your peril.
        
         | slobotron wrote:
         | TFA says the task could be procrastination too
         | 
         | > And don't forget that it could be "take a nap"!
        
         | weakfish wrote:
         | What?
        
       | lars_francke wrote:
       | This is why I use Amazing Marvin. While far from perfect it has a
       | deceptively simple feature: Give me a random task from this list.
       | 
       | It frees me from deciding between multiple equally important
       | things to do. And it helps tremendously by forcing myself to then
       | do this thing before moving on because I finally do those things
       | that I have been procrastinating on.
       | 
       | Back when I last checked four or so years ago very few or no Todo
       | tools had this feature.
        
       | geniium wrote:
       | Writing only one thing down would raise my fear of missing
       | something out that needs to be done.
       | 
       | I like to have some kind of backlog of tasks to do, and clean
       | that up regularly and start fresh with a daily list of tasks to
       | do.
        
         | Sammi wrote:
         | Often when I feel stressed out by stuff I need to do, I just
         | list it all out on paper on in a .txt. I'm not an organized
         | person in general, so I have strong aversion to doing so. But I
         | find that once I do I finally feel clarity and can immediately
         | see what is the most important thing I should be doing right
         | now, and I feel at ease that the other tasks are not forgotten.
        
       | jdrmar wrote:
       | Almost my philosophy! Except I do list multiple tasks at the
       | start of the day, but the next day I do a complete reset and
       | start over again (see https://can.do/about if you're interested)
        
       | benatkin wrote:
       | I've found the advice to remember that you "only ever actually be
       | doing one thing" not to be very broadly applicable. It's good
       | advice for some situations like driving a car, but for things
       | like writing code while responding to the occasional Slack
       | message, it's not specific enough to constitute good advice.
       | 
       | Still, it's true, when understood properly, and maybe I just need
       | to study it more to put it into practice.
        
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         | abbadadda wrote:
         | If you can, close slack while writing code - someone will call
         | or tap you on the shoulder if there is an emergency.
        
           | darth_aardvark wrote:
           | When I'm on call, I've got to respond to slack messages in 4
           | different channels with a 1hour slo . Messages responded to
           | outside the SLO get brought up at perf review. This isn't
           | viable for some of us.
        
           | ilyt wrote:
           | But that's worse!
        
             | benatkin wrote:
             | Indeed, exactly my experience. =)
        
       | trafnar wrote:
       | This works really well for me too. I built a task tracker tool
       | (tasktxt.com) that has built-in timers for each task so you
       | choose a task, then press "start" and now you feel more committed
       | to doing that one particular task. It helps me focus on one task
       | at a time.
        
         | leobabauta wrote:
         | I like it, will give it a try!
         | 
         | Can you make an option to only show the task being timed, for
         | greater focus?
        
         | drigbye wrote:
         | This looks great. Going to try it out! Where do you store your
         | weekly tasks and/or backlog of tasks?
        
       | koinedad wrote:
       | This is what I do, except I sometimes list a few things because I
       | know I need to do more than just one thing in the near future
        
         | larsrc wrote:
         | Same here, using a bullet journal took a lot of strain off my
         | mind. Now I wonder if I could adapt this advice to it.
        
       | jen729w wrote:
       | Burkeman has a lovely series on Sam Harris' 'Waking Up' app. It's
       | based on his book, which is also lovely, but isn't just him
       | reading it.
       | 
       | Free month here. No benefit to me.
       | 
       | https://dynamic.wakingup.com/shareOpenAccess/SC80D94AB
        
       | raman162 wrote:
       | I would say it's less about listing one task, but focusing on
       | doing the most important task at one point in time.
       | 
       | I loved the book four thousand weeks, refreshing reminder that we
       | have limited time and attention and prioritization is the most
       | important thing.
        
       | jstanley wrote:
       | If it works for you, great, but the reason I like to write down
       | all of the tasks is so that I can let go of them in my mind. If I
       | am only allowed to write down one task, I'm forced to memorise
       | the rest of the tasks.
        
       | Johnny555 wrote:
       | I did it, but I'm stuck in a loop:
       | 
       | List one task
       | 
       | List one task
       | 
       | List one task
       | 
       | List one task
        
         | layer8 wrote:
         | How do you even get to "cross it out"?
        
           | TeMPOraL wrote:
           | They AOT-compiled the instructions, and only then started
           | executing.
        
         | totetsu wrote:
         | - task
         | 
         | do it
         | 
         | it
        
           | dilippkumar wrote:
           | 100% compliance achieved.
        
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