[HN Gopher] MyNOR - The yet minor computer. No CPU, no ALU, one ...
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       MyNOR - The yet minor computer. No CPU, no ALU, one NOR-gate is
       enough
        
       Author : ColinWright
       Score  : 66 points
       Date   : 2023-06-21 09:28 UTC (13 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.mynor.org)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.mynor.org)
        
       | readingnews wrote:
       | Just call Jeff Dean. https://i.imgur.com/0t9HJ.jpg
        
       | jacquesm wrote:
       | I love it how the whole thing uses ICs but the actual NOR gate is
       | discrete.
        
         | dools wrote:
         | Do you mean because all of the 74H* series registers would have
         | within them lots of different logic gates? I don't think this
         | invalidates the premise -- ie. if you were using a CPU you'd
         | still have registers.
        
           | monocasa wrote:
           | There's more than just registers and flip flops there. The
           | 74HC08 is a quad 2-input and gate, and the 74HC32 is a quad
           | 2-input or gate. Arguably the demuxes (74HC138 and 74HC139)
           | are simply combinatorial logic too.
           | 
           | But I'm of the opinion that the lack of an integrated logic
           | ALU still makes it cute enough for discussion and praise,
           | despite the anachronism of it's constituent components.
        
       | jonsen wrote:
       | Back in time you could buy a 1-bit microprocessor:
       | 
       | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_MC14500B
        
       | brudgers wrote:
       | Direct link to the MyNOR, http://www.mynor.org/mynor.htm
        
       | redundantly wrote:
       | Thank goodness it's not something that's for sale, cause that
       | would have been another thing for my random tech pile.
        
         | drivers99 wrote:
         | He has the gerber files (and list of parts) though. I tried the
         | gerber zip file at PCBWay and it's $51.33 for 5 boards ($63.12
         | for 10) with shipping to the US. It would be a lot less if it
         | wasn't bigger than 100x100mm. Buying all the right parts would
         | be a lot of work if you don't usually do it though.
        
           | redundantly wrote:
           | Whyyyyy... Why couldn't you let me live in blissful
           | ignorance?
        
             | JorgeGT wrote:
             | Furthermore, they sell a kit will all the parts =)
             | https://www.budgetronics.eu/en/building-kits/mynor-single-
             | bo...
        
               | schoen wrote:
               | Whoa, so, has anyone written a compiler to compile a
               | high-level language to this architecture target?
        
         | BasedAnon wrote:
         | but it is
        
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       | orbital-decay wrote:
       | Memory is always the main issue for the computers like this.
       | Unless you go with something like delay lines or Williams tubes,
       | your total gate count will be dominated by memory.
        
       | daggersandscars wrote:
       | While not the subject of the article, his My4TH reminds me:
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       | Back in "the day", there was a replacement ROM for the
       | ZX81/TS1000 that turned it into a FORTH machine. Was a cheap way
       | to learn FORTH when the host machines were deep discounted near
       | the end of their run.
        
         | nickt wrote:
         | It also reminds me of a similar option, the Jupiter Ace [1]
         | which ran FORTH natively. The co-founders worked on the speccy
         | and certainly borrowed some design aspects from the ZX81 (had a
         | better keyboard though - ha!)
         | 
         | The manual was great for its time, a little dated now but still
         | a decent read [2]. It was reprinted in 2018 and still available
         | [3].
         | 
         | [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_Ace
         | 
         | [2]
         | https://archive.org/details/vickers_steven_jupiter_ace_4000_...
         | 
         | [3] https://www.amazon.com/Jupiter-ACE-Manual-Anniversary-
         | Progra...
        
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