[HN Gopher] The Password Game ___________________________________________________________________ The Password Game Author : kretaceous Score : 575 points Date : 2023-06-27 14:51 UTC (8 hours ago) (HTM) web link (neal.fun) (TXT) w3m dump (neal.fun) | johtso wrote: | I keep getting illegal move on the chess problem.. although my | move is not illegal. [Variant "From Position"] | [FEN "3k4/1p3Bp1/p5r1/8/P3P1N1/5Pp1/1P1r4/2R4K b - - 0 1"] | 1... Rgd6 | | When I put Rgd6 I get "d6 (Illegal move)" | shawabawa3 wrote: | I'm not sure if this is your problem, but you have to include | captures (x), check (+) and checkmate (#) if applicable | hgsgm wrote: | Try Rd6 or Rd6+ for check. | icoder wrote: | Or Rd6++ for check mate | bacchusracine wrote: | I'm about to send an email asking the site manager to remove this | before any PHB types take it seriously....yes those types exist | and yes they would see this as inspirational...God help us all... | nashashmi wrote: | At least it has a great UI | jbombadil wrote: | Well. I got stuck. | | Rule 9: The Roman numerals in your password should multiply to 35 | Rule 14: Name this country (Malasysia for me) | | Given that M=1000 in roman numerals, I need to find x such that | x*1000=35 | | How do I write 0.035 in Roman Numerals?! | pimlottc wrote: | Change it to "malaysia". It accepts lowercase for country name | and only recognizes uppercase as Roman numerals. | bandrami wrote: | 22 is a decent approximation (that's two backwards capital S | glyphs, if it doesn't render) | TT-392 wrote: | I gave up when I overfed paul | alexarborist wrote: | I'm stuck on the chess thing as well, and this time I do think | it's a bug. The board in FEN notation is | 8/7p/5pk1/3n2pq/3N1nR1/1P3P2/P6P/4QK2 w - - 0 1 The best move is | 'Qe8+' and that is exactly what I have put in. Including the '+' | sign. | gpvos wrote: | So Neal solves Wordle every midnight to keep this game running? | chimeracoder wrote: | Not sure if this is currently the case, but Wordle used to have | the entire list of words for each day served in client-side | code (I believe it was a static list with modular arithmetic, | or something along those lines). So doing "view source" would | not only tell you the current day's word, but also allow you to | view the answers for any future day. | | When the NYT bought the site, they shuffled the word list but | (at least at first) kept this system. They may have obfuscated | it by now though. | | Either way, since Wordle is a free game, it's not difficult to | automate a script that will attempt to solve it and grab the | correct answer. | ripley12 wrote: | Not sure exactly where the data comes from, but the game uses | an API at https://neal.fun/api/password- | game/wordle?date=2023-06-15 | | Seems like it has answers up to July 30, so he's either a time | traveller or it's possible to get future answers by looking at | the Wordle source. | anoncow wrote: | My password caught fire at Stage 18 and Paul sadly became an | burnt omelette! | Night_Thastus wrote: | This is so much goofy fun. Thank you so much for making this. :) | Dwedit wrote: | Had to stop at the "Name of this country" question because the | iframe was blocked by uMatrix. | valiant55 wrote: | Oh god, I got to the part where the password starts catching on | fire, eventually poor Paul was consumed by the fire. | hgsgm wrote: | I deleted Paul :-( | vonwoodson wrote: | I love it. I especially love that it doesn't tell you what's | wrong until too late! | muhammadusman wrote: | it does help you find a really strong password, sponsored by | Pepsi! | TomK32 wrote: | Make it PepSi for bonus points on other tasks. | p4nthera_ wrote: | I got to rule 35, I think I was one away from victory, best time | to play this is probably around 10:00-2:00 so that you can keep | low numbers and it doesn't mess up rule 5. I gave up and decided | to slay Paul myself. Paul is the bane of my existence. | batmansmom1 wrote: | A warning to future players: I got to rule 16 and was given an | egg named paul that I had to keep safe. Then on rule 18 a fire | (of emojis) broke out in my password, killing paul and ending the | game. Dont be like me, keep Paul safe. | FinnKuhn wrote: | same here... Paul burnt to death an I lost :( | YellOh wrote: | Thirding it. I'm guessing the move is to back up the | password, move Paul to the first/last character, and delete | everything to save him. | | Update: this strat works. But then don't immediately overfeed | him. | Rosalyn wrote: | How'd you solve it (rule 16)? | | I'm completely stuck on it... I've tried every single | combination that came to mind :/ | iso1631 wrote: | I came up with "invalid notation" a bit, but on my first go I | had something like "Bh5" and I needed "Bh5+" | | If you put the opposing king in check you need to put the + | roboticmind wrote: | The position seems to be randomized each time you play it, so | their solution isn't going to be of much use for you | | Also make sure to add the x for captures and the + for check | and things like that | Mogzol wrote: | You can cheat by entering the board state into a site like | https://nextchessmove.com/ | riffraff wrote: | try chessvision.ai, it allows you to scan the page and get | the next best move. | CaptainNegative wrote: | Not even surrounding Paul with water emojis could stop the | fire. | blharr wrote: | Later on there is a rule where you have to feed Paul bugs, and | I lost by feeding him too much | captainpiggies wrote: | I, too, overfed Paul :( | riffraff wrote: | for me, he starved while I was looking for a youtube video | and I am not strong enough to play through this again, even | if I loved the game | Georgelemental wrote: | Also, Paul must not be overfed | tw04 wrote: | ^^I tried leaving him a bunch of worms so I could search for | a youtube video and I was betrayed, greedy Paul. | chaxor wrote: | Paul was slain :( | | "SiP@pepsin.VII@Vmay8y63f-2aboutcolombiaKh6" | | Decent password 10/10 | princevegeta89 wrote: | You can keep Paul safe by adding something like a lot of = | before the egg and continuously delete the appearing fires and | at some point the fire will be gone | flippy_flops wrote: | Amazing. I've always wanted a similar game card readers: | | Remove your card before the clerk gets annoyed at you. The screen | is flashes various messages like "PLEASE REMOVE YOUR CARD after | the TRANSACTION IS COMPLETE". Push the card too hard and the | reader falls off the table. Pull at an angle or too slow and it | drags the reader. | drsopp wrote: | I suspect a bug: I got the chess solution Rh2+ that also matches | an element with too high atomic number.. | icoder wrote: | Yep, same here with Re and then something | [deleted] | h4x0rr wrote: | Reminds me of Password Purgatory. A site made by Troy Hunt (the | haveibeenpwned guy) which looks like a signup page (actually | seems to have an api) but the password requirements get more | ridiculous each time. The link is then sent to spammers who bug | him about his blog. https://passwordpurgatory.com/get- | hell?kvKey=510aa555-e482-4... | aftbit wrote: | Super fun. Sadly I accidentally killed Paul by misclicking while | trying to simultaneously include the right elements and Roman | numerals. | mcdonje wrote: | This made me angry. Good job. | wavemode wrote: | For anyone else who was struggling to make the leap year work | with all the other math: 0 is a leap year. | | For anyone else struggling with how to make the country name work | with roman numerals or element names, you can lowercase the | country name then it doesn't count as a roman numeral nor | element. | | If your chess move is illegal, make sure you're also notating the | effect of the move (Nxe6 for N captures on e6, not just Ne6. Ne6+ | if it's a check. Ne6# if it's mate.) | | Spaces are also allowed so feel free to break up parts of the | password to separate things and prevent them from interfering | with each other. | | Use XXXV as the roman numeral. Easiest to work with since only V | (23) is an element. | | Reroll your color if its hex has any numbers in it. You'll thank | me later. | | I made it to the final challenge (password must contain the | current time) and it became extremely difficult because the | current time, the length of the password itself, and a pesky 9 | that was in my youtube URL were just too much to add up to 25 | (even though I tried to overlap things, like 3:383 to cover 3:38 | current time as well as 383 prime password length). I would've | needed to somehow reupload a video that didn't have any digits in | it (or at least one that had a lower digit like 1 or 2) or wait | until it was 10:00 pm or something. | iso1631 wrote: | Managed to find a youtube video of the exact length (rule 25 - in | my case it was 18m05, which I found with | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVClhMyJgY after a search for | "17 minutes 50 seconds"), but that then screwed up my Roman | numerals. | | However it did seem to get past that rule to rule 26 (while still | complaining about the roman numerals): | | "A sacrifice must be made. Pick 2 letters that you will no longer | be able to use." | | I chose poorly, I thought it was for questions going forward, and | I knocked out the "S", needed (amongst other things) for all the | sponsors. | | C'est la vie I guess. | [deleted] | geluso wrote: | I'm stuck at | "iatetomatoesyesterday0265Z#521juneVpepsiVIIxngxcaboutAg[moon | emojis]italy2020Bf7+" trying to solve the chess notation puzzle. | | I especially laughed at the rule "must include today's Worldle" | and I'm happy with my solution including every emoji for "must | include the current phase of the moon as an emoji." | | (HackerNews doesn't seem to display emoji. My solution is to | paste every moon phase emoji.) | | Excited to see what's next after figuring out the best move in | this Chess puzzle. | | This reminds me of trying to manually construct an Autogram like | below. This one is a quote someone else made. I tried to do it | myself and it is so hard because the counts keep changing as you | write out other counts! | | Only the fool would take trouble to verify that his sentence was | composed of ten a's, three b's, four c's, four d's, forty-six | e's, sixteen f's, four g's, thirteen h's, fifteen i's, two k's, | nine l's, four m's, twenty-five n's, twenty-four o's, five p's, | sixteen r's, forty-one s's, thirty-seven t's, ten u's, eight v's, | eight w's, four x's, eleven y's, twenty-seven commas, twenty- | three apostrophes, seven hyphens and, last but not least, a | single ! | | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogram | dr_orpheus wrote: | Also got stuck at the chess one with | "551A!mayShellVIIVr8gecmaboutAuSingaporeBxe6" | themanmaran wrote: | You may need the + at the end of your notation if you're | putting the king in check. | sandyarmstrong wrote: | Yup, I had to come here to figure out that the + was | missing in mine! TIL! | festive-minsky wrote: | I had to use stockfish | tiborsaas wrote: | Brutal | irrational wrote: | Italy? Interesting that it is giving different locations. I got | Qatar. | iso1631 wrote: | It's random | nabakin wrote: | I think the chess one is bugged. I've entered every possible | move for the board I received and none of them worked. | | Edit: figured it out | saikaushik wrote: | Isn't Qxh6+ the best move for white, since there is a mate in | 1 after that move. Am I missing something? | YetAnotherNick wrote: | Enter without x. | messe wrote: | The game is selected at random each time you play, so | depending on which you get the solution will differ. | jayelbe wrote: | I couldn't get it to accept a move which involved the knight | jumping over a hostile piece. It was definitely the best move | (I fed it into stockfish and got the same response). I | refreshed the page to get a new puzzle and got a new street | view as well. (+deg#deg)+( +-+ | | Edit: Oooohhh, I think I forgot to add a + for check! | charlie2012 wrote: | [flagged] | Rosalyn wrote: | Can you please tell me? I've been stuck on it for an hour and | a half.... I really need help ;-; | nabakin wrote: | tl;dr | | K = King | | Q = Queen | | B = Bishop | | R = Rook | | N = Knight | | Pawns have no letter | | . | | You append a "+" to the end when it is a check move | | You append a "#" to the end when it's a checkmate move | | You add an "x" when your move eats another piece | | . | | Examples | | - Moving a rook to g6: Rg6 | | - Moving a queen to d7 which eats a piece: Qxd7 | | - Moving a bishop to a3 which checks the opponents king: | Ba3+ | | - Moving a pawn to e5: e5 | | - Moving a queen to h7 which eats a piece and checks the | king: Qxh7+ | | - Moving a pawn to f4 which checkmates the king: f4# | ghayes wrote: | It worked for me, but I had to include `Rxb6+` for the | capture and the check. | chankstein38 wrote: | You could potentially paste the chess notation into chatgpt and | ask for the next move! It's not perfect but it'd be better than | me at it at least | ailef wrote: | ChatGPT is really and at chess. I'd just paste it in one of | the online chess engines. | wongarsu wrote: | There are apps that detect the positions from an image, and | run a local version of stockfish to get the best move | noSyncCloud wrote: | https://chessvision.ai/ | bowmessage wrote: | Also got stuck on the chess game - had to peruse the webpacked | source code for the array of solutions... | jhhhhhh wrote: | [flagged] | Paultheca wrote: | I've been stuck on the 28 level and the converting the colour to | a hex code, which I do using a website(tried in multiple | websites) however no matter what I try when I put it into the | password it doesn't work | glonq wrote: | fun! i stopped at 'today's wordle answer' since i don't know (or | care) about such things. | omnibrain wrote: | Same for me. Never looked at "wordle" once. | phaedryx wrote: | ABOUT | xp84 wrote: | This isn't really significantly more irritating than half the | password "rules" forced on me by major companies who ought to | know better. | | "A special character..." Okay, how about: " | | "No, not THAT special!! (Shh, we are worried about a SQL | injection attack... in your password... which we dont even know | how to escape)" | | Let the many implications sink in for a minute.) | verbify wrote: | It doesn't necessarily mean that they don't know how to escape | special characters, it just might mean that they're employing a | defence in depth approach. | j0057 wrote: | This just goes to show how wise it was to write a script for | cheating on Wordle. | [deleted] | captainpiggies wrote: | This game is great! Even though I will need to catch up with | whatever was happening in my class for the last 2 hours, I | thoroughly enjoyed my time and the fact that I have no idea what | the professor is talking about is a sign of how engaged I was. | schemescape wrote: | Sadly, this is way _less_ annoying than many sites because it | doesn't require submitting the form and losing half the form | fields in between attempts. | Paultheca wrote: | I'm stuck at level 28 where I have to convert the image to | hexadecimal which I have done using multiple websites all getting | the same answer however when I copy it over to the game it | doesn't work. Please help I've spent too long doing this | madcaptenor wrote: | List of countries in geoguessr: AlbaniaAndorraArgentinaAustraliaA | ustriaBangladeshBelgiumBhutanBoliviaBotswanaBrazilBulgariaCambodi | aCanadaChileColombiaCroatiaCzechiaDenmarkDominicanRepublicEcuador | EstoniaFinlandFranceGermanyGhanaGreeceGuatemalaHungaryIcelandIndo | nesiaIrelandIsraelItalyJapanJordanKenyaKyrgyzstanLatviaLithuaniaL | uxembourgMalaysiaMexicoMongoliaMontenegroNetherlandsNewZealandNig | eriaNorthMacedoniaNorwayPeruPhilippinesPolandPortugalRomaniaRussi | aSenegalSerbiaSingaporeSlovakiaSouthAfricaSouthKoreaSpainSriLanka | SwedenSwitzerlandTaiwanThailandTurkeyUnitedStatesUgandaUkraineUni | tedArabEmiratesUnitedKingdomUruguayEgyptPakistanChinaDominicanRep | ublicIndiaVietnamBermudaPuertoRicoRunionFaroeIslandsGreenland | | from https://geoguessr.fandom.com/wiki/Countries_on_Geoguessr | | (unfortunately the only way to use this I can find is to put it | in the password and then delete it bit by bit) | sesm wrote: | How do you satisfy the chemical elements constrain if you get | country starting with 'Au'? It's 79 plus VII (23+53+53) and V | (23) (from roman numerals part), while the sum should be 200 | pugworthy wrote: | I believe you can lower case the A so it won't register as an | element. Also, there's more than one way to get 35 as a | multiplication problem... | fullstop wrote: | The country in my attempt was Venezuela. I was placed in a | chapel (?) and was able to find a plaque which helped me to | identify the country. | sb8244 wrote: | I inspected page source and found the coordinates in the embed, | then looked it up via that. Mine was the middle of a field in | Brazil. | jncfhnb wrote: | I don't think this is the source. My answer was Liberia. I was | able to spot a .LR domain on a street sign ad. | | Then I accidentally lost all progress by clicking the chess | notation link and when I got back to the geo guessing it was a | small forested area with nowhere to walk to so I gave up :( | madcaptenor wrote: | it's from fandom.com, so might be out of date. I think the | general strategy would work if you had the right list of | countries - although if you're determined to just cheat your | way past this step, probably better to just look at the | source and get coordinates as someone else has suggested. | mogoh wrote: | I got El Salvador which is not is the list. | paxys wrote: | How did you find my company's login page? | ovulator wrote: | This is awesome, I kind of want to use it now instead of a | password generator, I got as far as the chess move. | 20+599July.XXXVpcedepepsiABOUTBechile | [deleted] | cafeinux wrote: | I lost at rule 35 (out of 36) because I overfed Paul. | | Some tips I gathered: 9. Use XXXV, as the chemical symbols | contained in (V,VII) add up 152, which is already very close to | 200 for rule 18; 10. Refresh the captcha so that it only includes | lowercase letters, you'll need numbers later and they can't add | up to more than 25 according to rule 5; 14. Pray for having a | country with a short name, whose first letter isn't also a | chemical element and that includes common letters (curse you | Zimbabwe); 15. I think 4 is a leap year... 17. Put Paul at the | start or the end of your password; 19. You can bold the whole | string to meet the condition, but beware of rule 26. Also, before | meeting the condition, copy-paste your password elsewhere; 20. | Just select the fire and some more characters and delete them, | then fill the gap from your copy-pasted password; 22. Use "i am | loved" (all lowercase, cf. rule 18) as you'll need to sacrifice | two letters for rule 25, but you will already use 'o' for | youtu.be, 'v' for XXXV, 'e' for youtu.be, and probably 'l' and | 'd' in your captcha, URL (cf. rule 24) or color (cf. rule 28). | Also, it's the shorter word of the three, and for rules 32 and 33 | it's simpler to add padding symbols than to remove mandatory | characters to control the length of the password; 23. Try to have | between 2 and 6 max worms at any time, it should give you enough | time to think without overfeeding Paul. 9 worms will definitely | kill Paul (maybe less, but 6 should be safe); 24. On Chrome, you | can use the "YouTube Time Filter" extension to find videos of the | correct timelength. On YouTube, type a very generic request (like | "game", "car", or even just "p"), open the filters and choose | "Video" (to filter out shorts) as well as a length range (to | reduce client-side filtering) then in the YouTube Time Filter | insert a length range one second before and one second after the | required range (the game has a one second leniency). Then scroll | and scroll. Of course, once you find a suitable video, strip any | superfluous parameter from its length, and make sure that the | video id doesn't include any uppercase 'M', 'D', 'C', 'X' | (because those roman numerals don't multiply to 35, cf. rule 9) | and preferably no 'V' or 'I' (because of rules 9 and 18). It's | hard, but with a bit of patience, it doable. Also use the short | URL (youtu.be, not youtube.com) and trim the "https://www.", you | don't need them; 25. If you applied those tips correctly and you | were lucky on the captcha and the country, you should be able to | strip the letters 'w' and 'z' at the very least. Other letters if | you were very lucky (maybe try to choose another month for rule 6 | if it can make you unuse a letter, or maybe you should have used | "i am enough" ?); 26. Just put the whole string in italics; 28. | Refresh until you have a color without numbers (or 0 at most), | for rule 5; 32. It's better to have 123 characters than 97 (cf. | rule 5); 33. Sorry, I meant 113. Other probable candidates, | depending on your current password length are: 101, 103, 113, | 131, 151, 211, 223, 233, 311 and 313. Other numbers are fine too, | but it's up to you to see if you can have them depending on your | URL and chess move. Maybe include 8 padding symbols at the end of | the password, in prevision to rule 35. Know that the length will | vary when you feed Paul, but the length should usually be | correct; 34. Just skip this one, really; 35. Unfortunately, I | didn't pass that one as I overfed Paul, but I think it would be | easier to play around midnight, ideally at 00:00:00, because you | know, rule 5. But make sure to write it at 23:59 and change the | police size to 0px before midnight, so every rule can be met at | midnight. Not sure if the seconds are needed or not, since I | didn't pass it. | p4nthera_ wrote: | To add a couple of things to this: 9. I use XXXV (23), He (2), | Fm (100), these make it easier to adjust the symbols later on. | 15. 0 is a leap year 20. Ctrl+Backspace will delete the whole | fire if you place your cursor at the end of it 24. If you type | your exact time into youtube (e.g. 32:15) you will find many | videos with that length, bad thing about this solution however | is that if you're given a time that can also be a date (e.g | 21:01) you'll just get a bunch of news broadcasts from that | day. | | Also I think the limit for Paul is 5 caterpillars, I keep it at | 4 just to be safe though. | maerF0x0 wrote: | > The digits in your password must add up to 25. | | > X4X5I6V7V8V9! | | Unclear what is not adding up to 25 here. Is it a bug? | nerdponx wrote: | 4+5+6+7+8+9 > 25, no? They mean exactly 25, not at least 25. | maerF0x0 wrote: | This is the concept I was missing. Thank ya. | gield wrote: | 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 39 | codetrotter wrote: | > > X4X5I6V7V8V9! | | > Unclear what is not adding up to 25 here. Is it a bug? | | 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 39 | Kiro wrote: | Let me guess. You often think it's a bug in the compiler. | claar wrote: | The chess one is much easier with my favorite Chrome extension, | chessvision.ai | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-ches... | | Just make sure to add captures/check/etc (Examples from wavemode | on this thread: Nxe6 for N captures on e6, not just Ne6. Ne6+ if | it's a check. Ne6# if it's mate.) | AdamSpits wrote: | The digits in your password must add up to 25 what do they mean | with this? | TomK32 wrote: | about9_9_7 | aodonnell2536 wrote: | Got stuck at rule 18, not sure what an atomic number is in this | context | | Password26$_june_pepsi_VIIV_33p4e_about__germanyQxh7+ | jazpy wrote: | P = phosphorus, atomic number 15 | | V = vanadium, 23 | | I = Iodine, 53 | | So in your password they add up to 167 | squeaky-clean wrote: | Actually Pa from "Password" will br Protactinium at 91. I | also started off by typing password and had to change the Pa | to a smaller element. | AdamSpits wrote: | The digits in your password must add up to 25 wath do they mean | with this? | donalhunt wrote: | 1234564 = 1+2+3+4+5+6+4 = 25 | NKosmatos wrote: | Reminds me of BOFH :-) https://www.theregister.com/offbeat/bofh/ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastard_Operator_From_Hell | preinheimer wrote: | The classic stories brought a smile to my face for a long time. | username923409 wrote: | Funny game, but it seemed to break for me when trying to find a | YouTube video of length 4:55. I entered multiple videos of | lengths 4:54, 4:55, and 4:56, all while keeping Paul fed, but | none of them satisfied the requirement somehow. | rubyron wrote: | This would be great to use on my sites so users choose stronger | passwords. | | Is there an api planned, or is it open source? | javajosh wrote: | An api that's $1/request unless you have a prime number of | requests, then it's free. | Pannoniae wrote: | please try playing the game, it's not about this :) | rubyron wrote: | didn't think I needed the /s | Pannoniae wrote: | I apologise for being an idiot. I will buy a new sarcasm | detector shortly. | _flux wrote: | Needs to have the actual password obscured, e.g. with | asterisks. | | In fact, also the length should be obscured, show nothing, as | is the way in Unix password prompts! | [deleted] | madcaptenor wrote: | Gave up at the YouTube video. My final password: | | cmabout[gibbous emoji]swedenQf8+[chicken emoji]Tir8gecmVshellapri | l9Fe[weightlifter][weightlifter][weightlifter]VIIamloved[caterpil | lar][caterpillar][caterpillar][caterpillar] | nabakin wrote: | Should help https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36499194 | sashank_1509 wrote: | Lost at Paul was over fed. Took so much effort to make atomic | numbers sum upto 200 while ensuring Roman Numerals multiply to | 35. Smh | saikaushik wrote: | What's the chess puzzle? Qxh6+ is not working for me? | sashank_1509 wrote: | Everyone gets a different puzzle | Phemist wrote: | Chess move came out at Rg1+.. romand numerals multiplied are 35 - | so VII * V | | Atomic number of all of these combined: 113 + 23+53+53 + 23=275.. | | Looks like Im not going to complete it | bowmessage wrote: | XXXV * I | [deleted] | YellOh wrote: | VIIJuneVShell65$bw6n6aboutHecroatia0000 so far. Croatia was | extraordinarily hard to guess. Currently stuck on the chess game, | if anyone has generic advice on how to not suck at chess. | | Fun bonus: it can't seem to figure out what's going on with the | knight. Using "K", "N", or "S" for knight all get me "invalid | notation" warnings. I'm having a lot of fun. | | New update: got the chess answer! It will accept "N" for my | Knight iff I make stupid moves with it. Moving my knight to take | a bishop is "invalid notation", but apparently putting it in the | middle of nowhere to be captured by a rook is the best possible | move. | | Final update: Paul died in a fire. :I | blharr wrote: | The notation for capturing should be something like "Nxe6." I'm | guessing the mistake you're making is just doing "Ne6" | ufo wrote: | Also, add "+" at the end if you're putting the king in check. | geluso wrote: | oh man I got really lucky and was prompted with a picture of | Italy. I got it right on my first try. I didn't realize the | country images rotated! | fjkh wrote: | what is rule 14 | fisian wrote: | I got a (seemingly?) impossible problem: | | - roman numerals must multiply to 35 | | - my chess move is: Rf7+ | | - Atomic numbers of elements must add up to 200 | | So I need V, VII and Rf7+ in there but then the atomic numbers | are way past 200 already. | [deleted] | Georgelemental wrote: | Just use XXXV? No need to do 5 * 7 | neurosage wrote: | it parses the V in XXXV as an element group | zeven7 wrote: | But that's not a problem because that leaves you with only | V and R which add to 98, so you only need to add some | others to get it up to 200. | themanmaran wrote: | Same boat. I tried doing some parenthetical math | (X-III)(III+II) but it doesn't work. | amon_raw wrote: | Well I is for Iodine,which has 53 as its atomic number, so | this definitely wouldn't work anyways. XXXV is the way around | this. | [deleted] | xavdid wrote: | This was fun! | | It reminds me of "Password Purgatory" that Troy Hunt (of "Have I | Been Pwned" fame) built. It sends real scammers to a real-looking | site that basically makes them play this game until they give up | and go away. | | https://www.troyhunt.com/building-password-purgatory-with-cl... | fjkh wrote: | what is the answer to rule 14 | hbn wrote: | I know nothing about geography or landmarks so I just grabbed the | lat/long from the Google Maps iframe embed and looked it up. | | Turned out to be Cambodia for me! | willblaire wrote: | can someone help with rule 18 (the elements in your password must | have atomic numbers that add up to 200)? I'm stuck on what it's | asking 3: | willblaire wrote: | can someone help me on rule 18 (the elements in your password | must have atomic numbers that add up to 200)? I'm not sure what | it's asking 3: | nabakin wrote: | Reached 28 and forgot to feed Paul. That Rule is so frustrating | YellOh wrote: | Managed to make it almost all the way to the end! Note that "is | this your final password?" is _not_ the last challenge, despite | it being the last thing on the lists other people have posted. | Afterward you 're asked to retype your password which is almost | impossible to do, given that it's in various sizes (with any | zeroes at font size zero) and partially in windings. | | I recommend copy/pasting before you get there. It doesn't let you | copy once that final resubmit form appears. | | This is the last saved copy of mine (from ~5 steps before the | end; also, yc doesn't capture the various fonts, text sizes, and | emojis): | | xngxcaboutjuneshell0000XXXV*I54malaysia0Nd3+Gd d4dbc1170 | qt31415926 wrote: | I'm impressed you were able to not get tangled up by the | youtube/captcha/color hex/roman numeral mess! The youtube one | is what screwed me over and over out of all my attempts | nabakin wrote: | "00:00 / <minutes>:<seconds>" youtube | | Google that, including the quotes, replace the minutes and | seconds with your given time, then look through the results | and find a URL which fits the password criteria. | | Every result should be a video with that duration. If it | isn't, check your useragent. I noticed some weirdness with | that. | j-h-k wrote: | Got to the youtube video length url, but then I overfed Paul. | Hilarious and frustrating at the same time :D. | TomK32 wrote: | I found the video, it's by the United Nations, only for Paul to | starve. What did the UN ever do for us, eh? | TomK32 wrote: | doh, of course the video length is randomized. | ineedausername wrote: | What is this abomination. | javajosh wrote: | It's called a "joke". | anoncow wrote: | I loved the Google maps street view bit. I couldn't exit street | view and the road signs were in Cyrillic. Had to walk a long way | before I could search for some landmarks and guess Belarus. | Symbiote wrote: | I was dropped into the ruin of an ancient amphitheatre (the | tourist/foot StreetView thing): | https://www.google.com/maps/@31.9520096,35.9393566,2a,75y,14... | | After a 'walk' I saw flags which confused me, but it turns out | this country has a very similar flag to its neighbour. | stsourlidakis wrote: | I walked around a lot but couldn't figure out the country. I | refreshed and the next one was on some cliff that I couldn't | move so I pasted a list of all countries and then started | deleting in a binary search fashion until I was left with the | correct one. | TomK32 wrote: | Didn't know you could move, but then, why would I when I was | shown a beach in Israel. | StingyJelly wrote: | I had openstreetmap redirect enabled and it broke it for me. I | only got a blank iframe so I had to decode coordinates from its | url. | WaxProlix wrote: | Hah! I was wondering about that. Mine dropped me into what | looks like a 3D modeled version of a real place, but sandboxed | - there's no way to move around. | | (that iframe embed is: | https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!4v1686332716861!6m8!1m... | ) | | It led me down the path of reverse engineering these URLs | though, so that's fun. | sixstringtheory wrote: | neal.fun and ciechanow.ski are vying for the number 1 spot on my | list of HN auto-upvote submission hosts | 8ivek wrote: | [dead] | cm-t wrote: | > Rule 5: The digits in your password must add up to 25. | | Im already stuck here with `Password!25XXV` or | `Password!1234567890123456789012345` or `Password!34` (9+25) | | I'm not native english, so if there is a pun in the rules | description, I might not get it :'( | echeese wrote: | It means sum, so 55555 would work | cm-t wrote: | got it, thank you! | thorin wrote: | It means individual digits e.g. 997 === 9 + 9 + 7 | arijun wrote: | It's the sum of the individual digits, so 25 sums to 7, and | your second one sums to way more than 25 | cm-t wrote: | funny that i had to remove weight of my initial digit since | the CAPTCHA (rule10) :> | arijun wrote: | The captcha could itself add up to more than 25, making an | immediate game over | jackson1442 wrote: | You can request a new captcha without restarting | hgsgm wrote: | Same. I had a captcha and chess move that added to 29. | | Copy your password and reload to continue with only a few | missed rules. | well_actulily wrote: | I overfed Paul :( | | 111about[weightlifter][dead paul][worm][worm][weightlifter]VIIaml | ovednovemberen4n41E2111shellV[weightlifter][weightlifter][worm][w | orm][worm][worm][worm][worm][worm][worm][worm][worm][worm][worm][ | worm] | burnished wrote: | I only got to the captcha because I was on mobile and couldn't be | arsed to make precise edits, but I am very impressed by how slick | and funny they made a password modal | [deleted] | layer8 wrote: | Nope. | anthony_romeo wrote: | Fun! | | But I wasn't able to finish: I got a captcha with digits 5, 3, 7, | and 8. When the chessboard appeared, the best move was Qe6. These | conflicted with the rule to have all digits sum to 25 | (5+3+7+8+6=29). | pstadler wrote: | You can re-roll the captcha. | [deleted] | lycos wrote: | I gave up after having to include a leap year (Rule 15), I don't | know if this is a spoiler but I ended up with | January99Pepsi?XXXVggd7maboutZrJapan (there was an emoji in there | for the current moon phase but HN stripped it out) | | Looking at the code it should be possible to get a lot further, | in theory. Wonder how Paul is doing! | Symbiote wrote: | 8 AD was a leap year. | icoder wrote: | so where 0 and 4 ;) | wizofaus wrote: | Debatable - the _concept_ of leap years was invented before | 0 AD /CE but I'm not aware of any reason to believe that | particular year (which certainly wasn't called 0 AD at the | time, it was possibly the Roman year 753) was considered to | be one. | Symbiote wrote: | 0 isn't a year anyway, 1AD is preceded by 1BC. | | Wikipedia has some information on leap years around this | time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar#Leap_ | year_erro... | wizofaus wrote: | Interesting that there seem to be a large number of | scholars who would accept either 4 AD or 8 AD was the | first AD leap year. But less clear what such a year would | have been called by Romans at the time. I'm assuming it | wasn't common to include full dates (including the year | #) on written documents at the time, otherwise surely | we'd know pretty much exactly. I gather AD-based year | numbering wasn't actually introduced until ~525 AD (but | before that a number of systems had been in use). | TomK32 wrote: | leap year? what? I guess I had passed that by accident, 4 and 8 | were leap years I guess? | sltkr wrote: | The country is randomized; mine was Albania (that was NOT easy | to figure out!) | danuker wrote: | My country was El Salvador. I would not have guessed it (I | kept trying equatorial countries). I had to reverse engineer | the URL encoding of the embedded map. | | Spoiler: There is !1d and !2d, followed by coordinates. | hgsgm wrote: | Google a street name. | icoder wrote: | If it lands on a street it lets you roam around, but others | only let you look and zoom around, they are harder if not | impossible for mere mortals. | lycos wrote: | I saw a hot spring and got a very lucky guess, I can imagine | there are a lot of hard ones in there yeah! | iso1631 wrote: | I had albania which was easy -- there was a nearby poster | with some writing on, and a short ddg led to albanian sites. | jameshart wrote: | 2000 was a leap year and it doesn't screw with your numeric | total too badly :) | hhhahahjgjgjg wrote: | [flagged] | [deleted] | naitsa wrote: | Aww i overfeed paul while trying to find a suitable youtube url. | It ended with: SmSm#aro#Qg8+1196decemberpepsiXXXVxbcbxI am loved | about[moon-emoji]kenya[paul][lifting][lifting][lifting][worm][too | many worms] | lcabral wrote: | This turns into a mildly frustrating riddle as some of the | challenges are random (captcha, Street View, chess challenge) and | end up making it impossible to continue. Got my number added up | from the captcha and the best chess move came to be Qh6 (I would | need a chess master to disagree with me) so I'm already busted on | the add to 25 and then it tells me the "Qh6" notation is illegal | (Ok, I was never good with chess notation but I'm pretty sure | that says Queen to H6...) | fishtoaster wrote: | I ended up refreshing the captcha until I got one with only one | number, in order to get around that kind of issue. | anoncow wrote: | If it included a check Qh6+ could have been the answer? | [deleted] | sakras wrote: | Yeah I think there's a bug with the chess notation, I also had | it tell me Rh3 was illegal notation. Interestingly Rf3 is not | illegal notation but an illegal move for me. | TFortunato wrote: | I thought I had this issue, but it turned out I had to | remember the "+" at the end, when I put my opponent in check | danuker wrote: | THANK YOU! I was stuck not knowing the "+". In my case it | was a check mate. | jameshart wrote: | You can regenerate the captcha at any time. | jamilton wrote: | Yeah, I'm stuck on the chess part too. Figured out how to put | black in check, figured out the notation, including the +, but | it doesn't agree that's the best move. Put the positions into a | chess engine... it agrees with me with what the best move is. | | Fun game though, I laughed out loud at the Wordle requirement. | simantel wrote: | Yeah, I got Croatia in the Geoguessr section, which means I | can't possibly multiply roman numerals to 35, since C is 100. | Apes wrote: | You can use a lowercase c, and it won't count as a roman | numeral. | fisian wrote: | I also had to figure out how to enter chess notation. As it | turns out you have to add "x" after the piece if you want to | capture or "+" suffix for check. | lcabral wrote: | Ah. That might be it... Anyhow after staring at that chess | challenge I was sure to get a mate in two moves with the Qh6 | but the captcha filled with numbers plus the add to 25 left | me with only 3 to spare... So no way am I winning this game. | phaedryx wrote: | You can refresh the captcha. I had to a couple of times. | greenpizza13 wrote: | For the chess solution I ended up putting a breakpoint in the | Javascript. To each their own. | javajosh wrote: | The "two digit periodic table symbol" is also arbitrary - it | has to be initial caps! Then if you refresh the page, the | random stuff resets, so I gave up at that point with | !marchpepsidn26n2555VIIVabout where "dn26n" is random captcha. | lrvick wrote: | This is now my new favorite way to explain to people that | passwords should not exist. Long live FIDO2 and passkeys. | chme wrote: | I don't think passwords will be replaced. This is more of a | demonstration of over complicated password rules, than against | passwords itself. | | Hardware and biometric keys can be stolen, cloned and lost. And | trusting third-parties with keys to harddrive encryption is | also not really trustworthy. | lrvick wrote: | 1. You can have multiple hardware keys or devices bound to an | account as a backup of for ease of use. | | 2. Passkeys allow you to pick a backup solution of your | choosing. Could be your own nextcloud server in the corner. | This is no different than giving someone a choice of cloud- | synced password manager | | Both solutions avoid phishing, password re-use, keylogging, | or people picking weak passwords. | | There is no excuse for anyone even supporting passwords at | this point. Sysadmins have not commonly used passwords for | ssh in 20 years, favoring private keys on either hardware or | encrypted disks. Keys better than passwords-over-the-wire in | every way. | hhhahahjgjgjg wrote: | [flagged] | geluso wrote: | Your password must be at least 5 characters. | | Your password must include a number. | | Your password must include an uppercase letter. | | Your password must include a special character. | | The digits in your password must add up to 25. | | Your password must include a month of the year. | | Your password must include a roman numeral. | | Your password must include one of our sponsors: | | The roman numerals in your password should multiply to 35. | | Your password must include this CAPTCHA: | | Your password must include today's Wordle answer. | | Your password must include a two letter symbol from the periodic | table. | | Your password must include the current phase of the moon as an | emoji. | | Your password must include the name of this country. | | Your password must include a leap year. | | Your password must include the best move in algebraic chess | notation. (picture of chess puzzle) | | - This is my chicken Paul. He hasn't hatched yet, please put him | in your password and keep him safe. | | The elements in your password must have atomic numbers that add | up to 200. | | All the vowels in your password must be bolded. | | Oh no! Your password is on fire. Quick, put it out! | | Your password is not strong enough | | Your password must contain one of the following affirmations: | | Paul has hatched! Please don't forget to feed him, he eats three | every minute. | | A sacrifice must be made. Pick 2 letters that you will no longer | be able to use. | | Your password must contain twice as many italic characters as | bold. | | At least 30% of your password must be in the Wingdings font. | | Your password must include this color in hex. | | All roman numerals must be in Times New Roman. | | The font size of every digit must be equal to its square. | | Every instance of the same letter must have a different font | size. | | Your password must include the length of your password. | | The length of your password must be a prime number. | | Uhhh let's skip this one. | | Your password must include the current time. | | Is this your final password? | captainpiggies wrote: | I would find it hilarious if someone would come up with a | password generator that generates passwords that would pass | this game. | squirtlebonflow wrote: | Should be pretty easy, since you can check the generated | password against all the criteria. Making it fast might be | difficult though | qt31415926 wrote: | I don't think it's easy. Verification is much easier than | generating correct solutions for this. | | Looking at the JS, these rules use RNG such that you can | have an inconsistent or impossible password. E.g. if the | only youtube video URLs that work with your duration have | roman numerals that multiply above 35 in it you are hard | stuck. Your youtube URL can also hard stuck your atomic | number summation to 200 if it happens to contain enough | elements that adds above 200. Your color hex can hard stuck | your 25 sum, etc. The code does not try to generate working | passwords given all the rules, it simply adds checks and | randomly generates the requirement per rule. | | You'd have to have the RNG rules to align well in order to | win i.e. youtube video with no roman numerals or numbers or | elements, captcha with no numbers or roman numerals or | elements, to minimize conflict. | [deleted] | impalallama wrote: | > The elements in your password must have atomic numbers that add | up to 200. | | And I'm out lol. Fun game though. | meetpateltech wrote: | All rules in this game! | | 1. Your password must be at least 5 characters. | | 2. Your password must include a number. | | 3. Your password must include an uppercase letter. | | 4. Your password must include a special character. | | 5. The digits in your password must add up to 25. | | 6. Your password must include a month of the year. | | 7. Your password must include a roman numeral. | | 8. Your password must include one of our sponsors. | (pepsi/starbucks/shell) | | 9. The roman numerals in your password should multiply to 35. | | 10. Your password must include this CAPTCHA: | | 11. Your password must include today's Wordle answer. | | 12. Your password must include a two letter symbol from the | periodic table. | | 13. Your password must include the current phase of the moon as | an emoji. | | 14. Your password must include the name of this country. | | 15. Your password must include a leap year. | | 16. Your password must include the best move in [algebraic chess | notation]. | | 17. - This is my chicken Paul. He hasn't hatched yet, please put | him in your password and keep him safe. | | 18. The elements in your password must have atomic numbers that | add up to 200. | | 19. All the vowels in your password must be bolded. | | 20. Oh no! Your password is on fire. Quick, put it out! | | 21. Your password is not strong enough | | 22. Your password must contain one of the following affirmations: | (i am loved, i am worthy, i am enough) | | 23. Paul has hatched! Please don't forget to feed him, he eats | three every minute. | | 24. Your password must include the URL of a <random> long YouTube | video. | | 25. A sacrifice must be made. Pick 2 letters that you will no | longer be able to use. | | 26. Your password must contain twice as many italic characters as | bold. | | 27. At least 30% of your password must be in the Wingdings font. | 28. Your password must include this color in hex. | | 29. All roman numerals must be in Times New Roman. | | 30. The font size of every digit must be equal to its square. | | 31. Every instance of the same letter must have a different font | size. | | 32. Your password must include the length of your password. | | 33. The length of your password must be a prime number. | | 34. Uhhh let's skip this one. | | 35. Your password must include the current time. | | 36. Is this your final password? | raldi wrote: | And then what happens after 36? | Pannoniae wrote: | You can't pass 36. Just saying. | YellOh wrote: | Honestly not sure how you'd pass the youtube one, unless you | were incredibly lucky | TomK32 wrote: | I found one by the United Nations. In the meanwhile Paul | starved to death. | Pannoniae wrote: | by searching for the length in your favourite search engine | :) | YellOh wrote: | There doesn't seem to be a way to search YT videos | (except videos you yourself post) by exact length. I got | 21 min 45 seconds. Looking up "3000 second timer" on YT | got me close (only 4 seconds out), but not exact. Do you | have a way to find exact-length videos that I'm missing? | Symbiote wrote: | I found exactly the video I needed by searching "38 | minute video" and one of the "timers" was the required | 37m58s, but Paul died just as I found it. | iso1631 wrote: | It would have likely screwed up your previous answers -- | roman numerals etc. | roflyear wrote: | I think you just have to search for it and hope for the | best, my query got me this video which is hilarious: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRoUEr1l0n8 | nabakin wrote: | I figured out a way to get a list of videos all matching | the time you want. Should help. | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36499194 | [deleted] | genjii931 wrote: | Brilliant! | h1fra wrote: | Amazing ! | | Died after the URL, it was too much to recalculate the atomic | numbers and keep track of Paul. Maybe this chicken was the most | unfair part of this game, the random captcha and country make it | impossible to retry easily (maybe the time frame for feeding | could be slowed down); but loved everything else, really | ingenious. | | cshell-may-p4pde-about-bulgaria-00-991-Qg2+-XXXV-bFmN- -iamloved- | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWJaxlYRSc0 | icoder wrote: | Same here, I retried at least ten times if, sometimes stumbling | over a copy paste error that got Paul killed, but keeping the | chicken alive was the choke point for me. Perhaps it would be | allowed to encode part of the url? | | Also wouldn't url's with roman numbers in it fail the entire | thing as 35 only can be obtained by multiplying 5 and 7? Ah | right, or 35, true that but still same issue. | oxguy3 wrote: | I spent forever trying to find a YouTube video that was precisely | 16m18s, and when I finally did, the video ID included periodic | elements and Roman numerals that broke my earlier rules, and I | gave up. Fun game though! | nabakin wrote: | I'll copy a comment I made earlier: | | "00:00 / <minutes>:<seconds>" youtube | | Google that, including the quotes, replace the minutes and | seconds with your given time, then look through the results and | find a URL which fits the password criteria. | | Every result should be a video with that duration. If it isn't, | check your useragent. I noticed some weirdness with that. | d--b wrote: | Well, my chess move is Nd3+, and Nd gives an atomic number of 60. | That plus V and VII gives 212. Adding an "n" to VII reduces it to | 208, but I am screwed, no password for me... | ufo wrote: | XXXV also works | d--b wrote: | Jesus, of course thanks | kretaceous wrote: | Neal has outdone himself yet again. I had it until the roman | numerals and adding upto 25 ones but lost my cool when it said it | must include today's wordle answer. | | Screaming and crying. | dalai wrote: | I gave up on rule 18: The elements in your password must have | atomic numbers that add up to 200. | lnx01 wrote: | I gave up when I needed to represent the best chess move in | algebraic notation, but I couldn't because the text from the | captcha I had to solve earlier contained an illegal move... | _rage_ | jenjenneration wrote: | https://nextchessmove.com/ | KomoD wrote: | You can regen the captcha, I stopped at that too because I | couldn't be bothered. | ufo wrote: | It works if you put the chess move before the captcha | sltkr wrote: | I wonder if the password becomes invalid if you leave the tab | open for 24 hours... | squeaky-clean wrote: | Won't say too many spoilers but after a certain rule part of | your password can starve to death if you don't feed it | enough. Ask me how I know :( | mcint wrote: | Mmm, I overfed a certain part of the password. | JoelSanchez wrote: | my country was Georgia, i got the coordinates using devtools... | | i gave up when it got to chess, guess | "55A%SeptemberXXXVStarbucksgny6baboutgeorgia2016" will have to be | enough | hgsgm wrote: | It's easy to spam guesses of moves until you get approved. | momirlan wrote: | do people here have so much free time on their hands ? | captn3m0 wrote: | I got a "Paul has been slain" message, when I deleted half my | password to debug something. Weird. | | Got to the vowel capitalization. | TomK32 wrote: | It's not capitalization, it's about selecting the characters | and pressing the "bold" button. | icoder wrote: | Or just ctrl-a + ctrl-b | jameshart wrote: | Paul is the chicken | rngDolphins wrote: | rip Paul, but also I love this concept. I would love to see it | expanded with more varied requirements! | ezekg wrote: | I got to the chess move and didn't feel like putting in the | effort there. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-06-27 23:00 UTC)