[HN Gopher] A Dutch Village Where Everyone Has Dementia (2014) ___________________________________________________________________ A Dutch Village Where Everyone Has Dementia (2014) Author : ElFitz Score : 35 points Date : 2023-07-03 05:46 UTC (17 hours ago) (HTM) web link (www.theatlantic.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.theatlantic.com) | rhelz wrote: | Now ask yourself: how do you know you are not already a resident | of a village like that? | zial wrote: | Some funny math there saying it only costs $8k a month and then | saying US costs an astonishing 90k a year. Do they realize 8*12 | is 96k a year? | themerone wrote: | More than half that cost is subsidized. The maximum cost to | residents is $43k, and it is on a sliding scale based on family | income. | [deleted] | bell-cot wrote: | Reaction: Lovely - but the article notes that it has 152 | residents, vs. 250 full- and part-time staff. If more than a very | small percentage of a country's older folks develop dementia, and | the country's population is not growing exponentially...then such | well-staffed solutions are physically impossible to implement at | scale, for lack of working-age care staff. | wak90 wrote: | I don't think that's clear at all. | | Working age adults work from their early 20s to their 60s and | end of life care does not typically last that long. | EA-3167 wrote: | EOL with dementia can linger for well over a decade, and it | only gets more expensive as it goes on. | Retric wrote: | Most people don't experience dementia, and most of those | who have it don't need such extreme care. Taken to an | extreme, this radio suggests under 5% of a steady state | population would either have significant dementia or need | to treat it. But again most such people are cared for by | family members. | | The point of this Village is to minimize the cost of | treating significant outliers while maximizing their | quality of life. | DiggyJohnson wrote: | So it would need to scale out to 10s of thousands, no? | Retric wrote: | If everyone with dementia went to such a facility then we | would need ~30,000 of them in the US. However, most | people with dementia either don't need such extreme care | or have more severe medical issues, so the real number is | probably a several hundred such facilities. | londons_explore wrote: | Some people with dementia get violent. I bet it isn't a pretty | sight when a bunch of 80 year olds start fighting over who stole | Theodore's false teeth! | swader999 wrote: | Or tabs versus spaces. It's best just to hide the keyboards | after 78. | ElFitz wrote: | It has already been posted here before [1], but given how little | nursing homes seem to have changed, I find it still relevant, and | perhaps of interest to others who like me hadn't read about it | until today. | | [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8616383 | wdb wrote: | There are a lot of activities organised on a city/town level by | the Dutch Alzheimer Foundation chapters, such as Alzheimer | Cafe, Creatieve Werkplaats, Bijzonder ontmoeten, Cooking | Together, Choir, hiking/walking, etc | mahathu wrote: | That's not all, besides Alzheimer Cafe, Creatieve Werkplaats | and Bijzonder ontmoeten, there are also Gezellige Kletsen, | Gronkelstoot Spelletjes and Zorgzame Knoetelbijeenkomsten. | mike_hock wrote: | I just visited a place called "Alzheimer's Cafe," but I can't | remember the name of the place. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2023-07-03 23:00 UTC)